Just about any PC can play Vanguard crash-free with decent fps now.  But it's a whole other experience when you can run Vanguard on highest quality settings.  The game is absolutely stunning on the highest quality settings and you'll have see posts where people have upgraded turned their settings up and they feel like they are playing a whole new game.

Originally posted by PinkCat

Originally posted by boojiboy

Yep, I'd say wait on Windows 7, take advantage of its ability to utilize more RAM and at the same time swap out that hard-drive for a Raid 0 configuration or a SSD.  There's a couple of great theads in the technical forum on those topics.  Your processor and video card should be fine.

 

Running two sata or sata2 drives in Raid configuration is slower than the new solid state hard drives. Just an FYI.

i think thats what he was saying but i could be wrong

Originally posted by Goldknyght

Originally posted by PinkCat

Originally posted by boojiboy

Yep, I'd say wait on Windows 7, take advantage of its ability to utilize more RAM and at the same time swap out that hard-drive for a Raid 0 configuration or a SSD.  There's a couple of great theads in the technical forum on those topics.  Your processor and video card should be fine.

 

Running two sata or sata2 drives in Raid configuration is slower than the new solid state hard drives. Just an FYI.

 

i think thats what he was saying but i could be wrong

That's what I have been hearing as well, that SSD will be the fastest.  However, I've also heard that some SSDs are much better than others.  I have more homework to do, but I'm heavily leaning towards picking up a SSD to install Vanguard on.

Originally posted by boojiboy

Originally posted by eddieg50

 Make sure you have a very good computer if you want to play and have fun,  dont get freaked when you see lag during combat or hitching in cities this is all part of the "Vanguard experienc" Defrag you computer like crazy dont have anything running in the back ground. Performance is not as good as Lotro or aoc or wow or eq2 or many other games but if you can live with that it is a fun game especially if you are into the sand box style of play.  Try diplomacy it is unique and i found it fun

 

Depends... hardware 2-years older or less will run this game very well.  VG very much likes dual-core processors, at least 4-gigs of ram, and a fast hard-drive.  Many, many video cards built in the past two years do just fine, but it's not coded for SLI or Crossfire.

Vanguard does not like single-core processors, video cards older than 2 years and less than 2 gigs of ram.

It also looks like Vanguard is going to run EXTREMELY well in Windows 7 and certain solid-state drives will all but eliminate hitching.  I'm waiting to see more results, but I'll most likely upgrade to Windows 7 and pop in a SSD to install Vanguard on.  I think Vanguard is about a 25 gig game with a phenomenal amount of detail and textures to load.. so yes, entering a major city right now will definitely cause some hitching as it loads up the textures.

Compared to EQ2, Vanguard runs better on my system at much higher settings.  EQ2 had always brought my PC to its knees for some reason.

Erm.. i run 2 accounts of Vanguard at the same time on ONE pc meaning i duo box with everything maxed and i mean everything. I am running SLI and i am 60FPS running two VG clients at the same time on one PC.

I get very slight hitching in city but that last for 5 secs then it's perfect.

Running.. Dell 730 H2C Extreme Ltd Edition.

Windows Vista ultimate 32bit
H2C liquid cooling system
Dell 1000W PSU
- EPS12V, SLI, ATX2.0, SSI
- 92mm thermally controlled fan
- MTBF: 400,000 hours
Motherboard chipset NForce 790i SLI
CPU 3.8GHz GHz ( Factory overclocked) Intel Quad Core 2 Extreme QX9770
4GB of Corsair Dominator DDR3 ( Factory overclocked 1600MHz )
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer audio card
2 x728mb 8800gtx Sli config
2x 160GB 10,000 rpm hard drive, 1TB 7,200 rpm hard drive
AGEIA PhysX physics card accelerator
Blu-ray/HD-DVD combo drive
DELL ULTRASHARP 2408WFP24-inch Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor.

Originally posted by warpp

Originally posted by boojiboy

Originally posted by eddieg50

 Make sure you have a very good computer if you want to play and have fun,  dont get freaked when you see lag during combat or hitching in cities this is all part of the "Vanguard experienc" Defrag you computer like crazy dont have anything running in the back ground. Performance is not as good as Lotro or aoc or wow or eq2 or many other games but if you can live with that it is a fun game especially if you are into the sand box style of play.  Try diplomacy it is unique and i found it fun

 

Depends... hardware 2-years older or less will run this game very well.  VG very much likes dual-core processors, at least 4-gigs of ram, and a fast hard-drive.  Many, many video cards built in the past two years do just fine, but it's not coded for SLI or Crossfire.

Vanguard does not like single-core processors, video cards older than 2 years and less than 2 gigs of ram.

It also looks like Vanguard is going to run EXTREMELY well in Windows 7 and certain solid-state drives will all but eliminate hitching.  I'm waiting to see more results, but I'll most likely upgrade to Windows 7 and pop in a SSD to install Vanguard on.  I think Vanguard is about a 25 gig game with a phenomenal amount of detail and textures to load.. so yes, entering a major city right now will definitely cause some hitching as it loads up the textures.

Compared to EQ2, Vanguard runs better on my system at much higher settings.  EQ2 had always brought my PC to its knees for some reason.

Erm.. i run 2 accounts of Vanguard at the same time on ONE pc meaning i duo box with everything maxed and i mean everything. I am running SLI and i am 60FPS running two VG clients at the same time on one PC.

 

I get very slight hitching in city but that last for 5 secs then it's perfect.

Running.. Dell 730 H2C Extreme Ltd Edition.

Windows Vista ultimate 32bit
H2C liquid cooling system
Dell 1000W PSU
- EPS12V, SLI, ATX2.0, SSI
- 92mm thermally controlled fan
- MTBF: 400,000 hours
Motherboard chipset NForce 790i SLI
CPU 3.8GHz GHz ( Factory overclocked) Intel Quad Core 2 Extreme QX9770
4GB of Corsair Dominator DDR3 ( Factory overclocked 1600MHz )
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer audio card
2 x728mb 8800gtx Sli config
2x 160GB 10,000 rpm hard drive, 1TB 7,200 rpm hard drive
AGEIA PhysX physics card accelerator
Blu-ray/HD-DVD combo drive
DELL ULTRASHARP 2408WFP24-inch Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor.

 

i don't buy it.  Vista 32 leaves you at best 2gb and vg uses a bit over 1gb.  When you run two of them I can't imagine you are not swaping like made which will kill performance.  Maybe you can start two and run for short periods of time but long term and with good performance.  Sorry I don't believe it.  Maybe with vista 64 I would buy it.

Originally posted by ethion

Originally posted by warpp

Originally posted by boojiboy

Originally posted by eddieg50

 Make sure you have a very good computer if you want to play and have fun,  dont get freaked when you see lag during combat or hitching in cities this is all part of the "Vanguard experienc" Defrag you computer like crazy dont have anything running in the back ground. Performance is not as good as Lotro or aoc or wow or eq2 or many other games but if you can live with that it is a fun game especially if you are into the sand box style of play.  Try diplomacy it is unique and i found it fun

 

Depends... hardware 2-years older or less will run this game very well.  VG very much likes dual-core processors, at least 4-gigs of ram, and a fast hard-drive.  Many, many video cards built in the past two years do just fine, but it's not coded for SLI or Crossfire.

Vanguard does not like single-core processors, video cards older than 2 years and less than 2 gigs of ram.

It also looks like Vanguard is going to run EXTREMELY well in Windows 7 and certain solid-state drives will all but eliminate hitching.  I'm waiting to see more results, but I'll most likely upgrade to Windows 7 and pop in a SSD to install Vanguard on.  I think Vanguard is about a 25 gig game with a phenomenal amount of detail and textures to load.. so yes, entering a major city right now will definitely cause some hitching as it loads up the textures.

Compared to EQ2, Vanguard runs better on my system at much higher settings.  EQ2 had always brought my PC to its knees for some reason.

Erm.. i run 2 accounts of Vanguard at the same time on ONE pc meaning i duo box with everything maxed and i mean everything. I am running SLI and i am 60FPS running two VG clients at the same time on one PC.

 

I get very slight hitching in city but that last for 5 secs then it's perfect.

Running.. Dell 730 H2C Extreme Ltd Edition.

Windows Vista ultimate 32bit
H2C liquid cooling system
Dell 1000W PSU
- EPS12V, SLI, ATX2.0, SSI
- 92mm thermally controlled fan
- MTBF: 400,000 hours
Motherboard chipset NForce 790i SLI
CPU 3.8GHz GHz ( Factory overclocked) Intel Quad Core 2 Extreme QX9770
4GB of Corsair Dominator DDR3 ( Factory overclocked 1600MHz )
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer audio card
2 x728mb 8800gtx Sli config
2x 160GB 10,000 rpm hard drive, 1TB 7,200 rpm hard drive
AGEIA PhysX physics card accelerator
Blu-ray/HD-DVD combo drive
DELL ULTRASHARP 2408WFP24-inch Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor.

 

i don't buy it.  Vista 32 leaves you at best 2gb and vg uses a bit over 1gb.  When you run two of them I can't imagine you are not swaping like made which will kill performance.  Maybe you can start two and run for short periods of time but long term and with good performance.  Sorry I don't believe it.  Maybe with vista 64 I would buy it.

It's true, you can easily run two instances of VG on the same rig with that kind of computer set-up.  However, you need to be in Windowed mode and there is one big caveat... at least for me.  If both instances have sound on, it will really, really hurt performance in both.  However, if sound is turned off in one instance the performance is surprisingly good, even in raids.  To help things, if I'm running one instance as a buff-bot or something, I will keep that toon away from the action and/or looking at the floor... this helps a lot too.

For some reason, I can no longer launch more than two instances on the same PC.  I don't know if they put a limit on that or if I borked something.

Originally posted by boojiboy

Originally posted by ethion

Originally posted by warpp

Originally posted by boojiboy

Originally posted by eddieg50

 Make sure you have a very good computer if you want to play and have fun,  dont get freaked when you see lag during combat or hitching in cities this is all part of the "Vanguard experienc" Defrag you computer like crazy dont have anything running in the back ground. Performance is not as good as Lotro or aoc or wow or eq2 or many other games but if you can live with that it is a fun game especially if you are into the sand box style of play.  Try diplomacy it is unique and i found it fun

 

Depends... hardware 2-years older or less will run this game very well.  VG very much likes dual-core processors, at least 4-gigs of ram, and a fast hard-drive.  Many, many video cards built in the past two years do just fine, but it's not coded for SLI or Crossfire.

Vanguard does not like single-core processors, video cards older than 2 years and less than 2 gigs of ram.

It also looks like Vanguard is going to run EXTREMELY well in Windows 7 and certain solid-state drives will all but eliminate hitching.  I'm waiting to see more results, but I'll most likely upgrade to Windows 7 and pop in a SSD to install Vanguard on.  I think Vanguard is about a 25 gig game with a phenomenal amount of detail and textures to load.. so yes, entering a major city right now will definitely cause some hitching as it loads up the textures.

Compared to EQ2, Vanguard runs better on my system at much higher settings.  EQ2 had always brought my PC to its knees for some reason.

Erm.. i run 2 accounts of Vanguard at the same time on ONE pc meaning i duo box with everything maxed and i mean everything. I am running SLI and i am 60FPS running two VG clients at the same time on one PC.

 

I get very slight hitching in city but that last for 5 secs then it's perfect.

Running.. Dell 730 H2C Extreme Ltd Edition.

Windows Vista ultimate 32bit
H2C liquid cooling system
Dell 1000W PSU
- EPS12V, SLI, ATX2.0, SSI
- 92mm thermally controlled fan
- MTBF: 400,000 hours
Motherboard chipset NForce 790i SLI
CPU 3.8GHz GHz ( Factory overclocked) Intel Quad Core 2 Extreme QX9770
4GB of Corsair Dominator DDR3 ( Factory overclocked 1600MHz )
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer audio card
2 x728mb 8800gtx Sli config
2x 160GB 10,000 rpm hard drive, 1TB 7,200 rpm hard drive
AGEIA PhysX physics card accelerator
Blu-ray/HD-DVD combo drive
DELL ULTRASHARP 2408WFP24-inch Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor.

 

i don't buy it.  Vista 32 leaves you at best 2gb and vg uses a bit over 1gb.  When you run two of them I can't imagine you are not swaping like made which will kill performance.  Maybe you can start two and run for short periods of time but long term and with good performance.  Sorry I don't believe it.  Maybe with vista 64 I would buy it.

 

It's true, you can easily run two instances of VG on the same rig with that kind of computer set-up.  However, you need to be in Windowed mode and there is one big caveat... at least for me.  If both instances have sound on, it will really, really hurt performance in both.  However, if sound is turned off in one instance the performance is surprisingly good, even in raids.  To help things, if I'm running one instance as a buff-bot or something, I will keep that toon away from the action and/or looking at the floor... this helps a lot too.

For some reason, I can no longer launch more than two instances on the same PC.  I don't know if they put a limit on that or if I borked something.

                             Does anyone have one of those "Killer NIC" network cards and if you do does it make your online game run better.  I run my extreme gamer sound card during the game but ia m sure that only increases frame rates right?

I read up on NIC cards when building my current PC, I didn't find that there would be enough performance boost to warrent the cost of the card.  Maybe they've gotten better since then.

Originally posted by boojiboy

Originally posted by ethion

Originally posted by warpp

Originally posted by boojiboy

Originally posted by eddieg50

 Make sure you have a very good computer if you want to play and have fun,  dont get freaked when you see lag during combat or hitching in cities this is all part of the "Vanguard experienc" Defrag you computer like crazy dont have anything running in the back ground. Performance is not as good as Lotro or aoc or wow or eq2 or many other games but if you can live with that it is a fun game especially if you are into the sand box style of play.  Try diplomacy it is unique and i found it fun

 

Depends... hardware 2-years older or less will run this game very well.  VG very much likes dual-core processors, at least 4-gigs of ram, and a fast hard-drive.  Many, many video cards built in the past two years do just fine, but it's not coded for SLI or Crossfire.

Vanguard does not like single-core processors, video cards older than 2 years and less than 2 gigs of ram.

It also looks like Vanguard is going to run EXTREMELY well in Windows 7 and certain solid-state drives will all but eliminate hitching.  I'm waiting to see more results, but I'll most likely upgrade to Windows 7 and pop in a SSD to install Vanguard on.  I think Vanguard is about a 25 gig game with a phenomenal amount of detail and textures to load.. so yes, entering a major city right now will definitely cause some hitching as it loads up the textures.

Compared to EQ2, Vanguard runs better on my system at much higher settings.  EQ2 had always brought my PC to its knees for some reason.

Erm.. i run 2 accounts of Vanguard at the same time on ONE pc meaning i duo box with everything maxed and i mean everything. I am running SLI and i am 60FPS running two VG clients at the same time on one PC.

 

I get very slight hitching in city but that last for 5 secs then it's perfect.

Running.. Dell 730 H2C Extreme Ltd Edition.

Windows Vista ultimate 32bit
H2C liquid cooling system
Dell 1000W PSU
- EPS12V, SLI, ATX2.0, SSI
- 92mm thermally controlled fan
- MTBF: 400,000 hours
Motherboard chipset NForce 790i SLI
CPU 3.8GHz GHz ( Factory overclocked) Intel Quad Core 2 Extreme QX9770
4GB of Corsair Dominator DDR3 ( Factory overclocked 1600MHz )
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer audio card
2 x728mb 8800gtx Sli config
2x 160GB 10,000 rpm hard drive, 1TB 7,200 rpm hard drive
AGEIA PhysX physics card accelerator
Blu-ray/HD-DVD combo drive
DELL ULTRASHARP 2408WFP24-inch Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor.

 

i don't buy it.  Vista 32 leaves you at best 2gb and vg uses a bit over 1gb.  When you run two of them I can't imagine you are not swaping like made which will kill performance.  Maybe you can start two and run for short periods of time but long term and with good performance.  Sorry I don't believe it.  Maybe with vista 64 I would buy it.

 

It's true, you can easily run two instances of VG on the same rig with that kind of computer set-up.  However, you need to be in Windowed mode and there is one big caveat... at least for me.  If both instances have sound on, it will really, really hurt performance in both.  However, if sound is turned off in one instance the performance is surprisingly good, even in raids.  To help things, if I'm running one instance as a buff-bot or something, I will keep that toon away from the action and/or looking at the floor... this helps a lot too.

For some reason, I can no longer launch more than two instances on the same PC.  I don't know if they put a limit on that or if I borked something.

Are you doing this with a 32bit os??  My concern is memory usage.  With 32 bit vista you are going to run very close to running out of memory pushing you into swaping.  When I ran vg last and checked resource usage it used between 1-1.5gb of ram.  2x 1.5gb of ram would be 3gb and vista 32 won't have 3gb free after loading the OS which would put you into swaping.  So yeah it would still run but swaping would be big time hitching issues which would be the problem I'd see.

I have run two instances of vg under vista 64 and it has worked.  I didn't do it for long was only testing my wifes setup.

You know, for many people who left Vanguard and have never gone back, it was about the crappy game content and mechanics, not the technical difficulties.

The game is on life support, which means it's alive, but that isn't necessarily a good thing.

crappy game mechanics like what

I play both Vanguard and LOTRO. My pc can play Vanguard with everything maxed and I get great performance. There's some choppiness when loading a new area but that smooths out after a couple minutes. Nothing I haven't seen with other games I've played.

I cannot play LOTRO at full. I can't do DX10 because I get a big drop in framerate. My boyfriend who has a similar machine to mine except he has Vista 64 and 4 gigs RAM and can play it maxed all the way. I play it at medium/high settings which gives me good performance and the game still looks awesome.  :)

As to population, LOTRO is booming, I see lots of people at all levels from 20s on up, both in groups and solo. I play on Landroval. Vanguards larger quest hubs have plenty of people, chat is usually active, and I haven't had much problem getting groups when I need them during prime time. Out in more remote areas there are fewer people of course. I play on Seradon there.

I have a core 2 4400, Vista 32 bit, 3 gigs RAM, and a Nvidia GeForce 8800GT.