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  tvalentine

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3/26/09 12:13:47 AM#41

ok .... before anyone else takes my post seriously .....

 

i wasnt serious, or atleast i wasnt serious about the question of athiest being a religion.

I do see more athiests preaching about they are right then every other religion.

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  tayschrenn

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3/26/09 4:28:08 AM#42
Originally posted by tvalentine

ok .... before anyone else takes my post seriously .....

 

i wasnt serious, or atleast i wasnt serious about the question of athiest being a religion.

I do see more athiests preaching about they are right then every other religion.

You're telling me that there are countless "atheist" TV channels preaching "atheism" compared to only one maybe two channels preaching about God?

You walk around a town and see atheist churches everywhere preaching about atheism?

A question was asked and and people respond so that is now preaching? Maybe I should never answer a question again in case it's percieved that i'm a follower of the religion posed by the question.

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  tvalentine

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3/26/09 1:18:52 PM#43
Originally posted by tayschrenn
Originally posted by tvalentine

ok .... before anyone else takes my post seriously .....

 

i wasnt serious, or atleast i wasnt serious about the question of athiest being a religion.

I do see more athiests preaching about they are right then every other religion.

You're telling me that there are countless "atheist" TV channels preaching "atheism" compared to only one maybe two channels preaching about God?

You walk around a town and see atheist churches everywhere preaching about atheism?

A question was asked and and people respond so that is now preaching?

i wasnt referring to this thread. Quit making assumptions. Because as you can see from my post they dont work.

Maybe I should never answer a question again in case it's percieved that i'm a follower of the religion posed by the question.


 

erm i forgot to say "on these boards" like my last post. Stupid me for assuming people would connect this post with the post i was referring to.

But yes now that i think about it, irl i do hear alot more from athiests saying they are right hen from christians and muslims and everyone else.

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  tayschrenn

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3/27/09 4:30:02 AM#44
Originally posted by tvalentine
Originally posted by tayschrenn
Originally posted by tvalentine

ok .... before anyone else takes my post seriously .....

 

i wasnt serious, or atleast i wasnt serious about the question of athiest being a religion.

I do see more athiests preaching about they are right then every other religion.

You're telling me that there are countless "atheist" TV channels preaching "atheism" compared to only one maybe two channels preaching about God?

You walk around a town and see atheist churches everywhere preaching about atheism?

A question was asked and and people respond so that is now preaching?

i wasnt referring to this thread. Quit making assumptions. Because as you can see from my post they dont work.

Maybe I should never answer a question again in case it's percieved that i'm a follower of the religion posed by the question.


 

erm i forgot to say "on these boards" like my last post. Stupid me for assuming people would connect this post with the post i was referring to.

But yes now that i think about it, irl i do hear alot more from athiests saying they are right hen from christians and muslims and everyone else.

It was a discussion about atheism and religion. Am I supposed to know automatically when you make a flippant throwaway comment which has relevence to the question being posed? I made know assumptions. I was responding to your comments. If you don't like being picked up on them then make sure that you mention it as a joke.

 

As to hearing more preaching from Atheists than Religions in real life.......well where do you live as I find that VERY hard to believe. Even on these boards it seems to be a 50/50 split.

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  talismen351

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3/27/09 8:56:16 AM#45

Why is it all of these religious threads are made by religious people to put down other peoples beleifs?

There is prolly a god of some kind out there...but I doubt very much it cares about us. We are just a flyshit in a pile of cowmanure which we call the universe.

We'll find out when we are all dead who was right n who was wrong.

  Ekibiogami

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3/27/09 1:09:03 PM#46
Originally posted by tayschrenn
Originally posted by tvalentine
Originally posted by tayschrenn
Originally posted by tvalentine

ok .... before anyone else takes my post seriously .....

 

i wasnt serious, or atleast i wasnt serious about the question of athiest being a religion.

I do see more athiests preaching about they are right then every other religion.

You're telling me that there are countless "atheist" TV channels preaching "atheism" compared to only one maybe two channels preaching about God?

You walk around a town and see atheist churches everywhere preaching about atheism?

A question was asked and and people respond so that is now preaching?

i wasnt referring to this thread. Quit making assumptions. Because as you can see from my post they dont work.

Maybe I should never answer a question again in case it's percieved that i'm a follower of the religion posed by the question.


 

erm i forgot to say "on these boards" like my last post. Stupid me for assuming people would connect this post with the post i was referring to.

But yes now that i think about it, irl i do hear alot more from athiests saying they are right hen from christians and muslims and everyone else.

It was a discussion about atheism and religion. Am I supposed to know automatically when you make a flippant throwaway comment which has relevence to the question being posed? I made know assumptions. I was responding to your comments. If you don't like being picked up on them then make sure that you mention it as a joke.

 

As to hearing more preaching from Atheists than Religions in real life.......well where do you live as I find that VERY hard to believe. Even on these boards it seems to be a 50/50 split.


 

Bring up God around any athiest and they just wont shut up.

Honestly I cant rember the last time a "Wittnes" came to my door But I can point out 2 times this year at the collage some athiest going apeshit just because i brought up God.

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  RedwoodSap

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3/27/09 1:25:15 PM#47

Well generally the status quo for anything to exist, it has to be proven, otherwise the position normally held is that it doesn't.

I do however take equal offense to rabid atheists who slam religion and faith and constantly try to thwart religious symbolism and tradition, as well as fundamentalists who damn non believers.

I am agnostic and say live and let live.

  LuckyCurse

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3/27/09 2:08:40 PM#48
Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Originally posted by tayschrenn
Originally posted by tvalentine
Originally posted by tayschrenn
Originally posted by tvalentine

ok .... before anyone else takes my post seriously .....

 

i wasnt serious, or atleast i wasnt serious about the question of athiest being a religion.

I do see more athiests preaching about they are right then every other religion.

You're telling me that there are countless "atheist" TV channels preaching "atheism" compared to only one maybe two channels preaching about God?

You walk around a town and see atheist churches everywhere preaching about atheism?

A question was asked and and people respond so that is now preaching?

i wasnt referring to this thread. Quit making assumptions. Because as you can see from my post they dont work.

Maybe I should never answer a question again in case it's percieved that i'm a follower of the religion posed by the question.


 

erm i forgot to say "on these boards" like my last post. Stupid me for assuming people would connect this post with the post i was referring to.

But yes now that i think about it, irl i do hear alot more from athiests saying they are right hen from christians and muslims and everyone else.

It was a discussion about atheism and religion. Am I supposed to know automatically when you make a flippant throwaway comment which has relevence to the question being posed? I made know assumptions. I was responding to your comments. If you don't like being picked up on them then make sure that you mention it as a joke.

 

As to hearing more preaching from Atheists than Religions in real life.......well where do you live as I find that VERY hard to believe. Even on these boards it seems to be a 50/50 split.


 

Bring up God around any athiest and they just wont shut up.

Honestly I cant rember the last time a "Wittnes" came to my door But I can point out 2 times this year at the collage some athiest going apeshit just because i brought up God.

Oh my, sounds like someone is tired of those 'uppity' Atheists who don't know their place in society.

So, are we to assume you simply 'mentioned' god, or did you jam some form of your religious view down the class's or Atheist's throat?

I'm guessing you were offensive in some way, and probably got what you deserved.  Of course, you'll slant your story to make it sound like you did nothing wrong and the Atheist was irrational with anger.  So, ignore the fact that I asked you a question, you'll just lie and distort the circumstances.  

Frankly, I'm tired of people and their anecdotal evidence.         

- LC

  tvalentine

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3/27/09 2:18:07 PM#49
Originally posted by LuckyCurse
Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Originally posted by tayschrenn
Originally posted by tvalentine
Originally posted by tayschrenn
Originally posted by tvalentine

ok .... before anyone else takes my post seriously .....

 

i wasnt serious, or atleast i wasnt serious about the question of athiest being a religion.

I do see more athiests preaching about they are right then every other religion.

You're telling me that there are countless "atheist" TV channels preaching "atheism" compared to only one maybe two channels preaching about God?

You walk around a town and see atheist churches everywhere preaching about atheism?

A question was asked and and people respond so that is now preaching?

i wasnt referring to this thread. Quit making assumptions. Because as you can see from my post they dont work.

Maybe I should never answer a question again in case it's percieved that i'm a follower of the religion posed by the question.


 

erm i forgot to say "on these boards" like my last post. Stupid me for assuming people would connect this post with the post i was referring to.

But yes now that i think about it, irl i do hear alot more from athiests saying they are right hen from christians and muslims and everyone else.

It was a discussion about atheism and religion. Am I supposed to know automatically when you make a flippant throwaway comment which has relevence to the question being posed? I made know assumptions. I was responding to your comments. If you don't like being picked up on them then make sure that you mention it as a joke.

 

As to hearing more preaching from Atheists than Religions in real life.......well where do you live as I find that VERY hard to believe. Even on these boards it seems to be a 50/50 split.


 

Bring up God around any athiest and they just wont shut up.

Honestly I cant rember the last time a "Wittnes" came to my door But I can point out 2 times this year at the collage some athiest going apeshit just because i brought up God.

Oh my, sounds like someone is tired of those 'uppity' Atheists who don't know their place in society.

So, are we to assume you simply 'mentioned' god, or did you jam some form of your religious view down the class's or Atheist's throat?

I'm guessing you were offensive in some way, and probably got what you deserved.  Of course, you'll slant your story to make it sound like you did nothing wrong and the Atheist was irrational with anger.  So, ignore the fact that I asked you a question, you'll just lie and distort the circumstances.  

Frankly, I'm tired of people and their anecdotal evidence.         

- LC


 

you dont need to jam a religious view down there throat or anything. I've run into a few athiests where if i or someone else mentions god they get all upset and they always make sure to explain their point of view and also explain how wrong everyone else is. And when i mean mention god, i mean making a statement about something happening, not trying to "convert" the other person. Seems like your stereotype isnt seeing eye to eye with everyone's encounters with athiests.

Although it can go both ways. I've heard of people running into more radical christians and/or muslims. It varies from person to person really, and if you cant really accept that, then i believe its safe to say that you are about as ignorant as anyone who gets all upset and bothered with the mentioning of 1 word.

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  LuckyCurse

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3/27/09 2:32:51 PM#50
Originally posted by tvalentine
Originally posted by LuckyCurse
Originally posted by Ekibiogami
Originally posted by tayschrenn
Originally posted by tvalentine
Originally posted by tayschrenn
Originally posted by tvalentine

ok .... before anyone else takes my post seriously .....

 

i wasnt serious, or atleast i wasnt serious about the question of athiest being a religion.

I do see more athiests preaching about they are right then every other religion.

You're telling me that there are countless "atheist" TV channels preaching "atheism" compared to only one maybe two channels preaching about God?

You walk around a town and see atheist churches everywhere preaching about atheism?

A question was asked and and people respond so that is now preaching?

i wasnt referring to this thread. Quit making assumptions. Because as you can see from my post they dont work.

Maybe I should never answer a question again in case it's percieved that i'm a follower of the religion posed by the question.


 

erm i forgot to say "on these boards" like my last post. Stupid me for assuming people would connect this post with the post i was referring to.

But yes now that i think about it, irl i do hear alot more from athiests saying they are right hen from christians and muslims and everyone else.

It was a discussion about atheism and religion. Am I supposed to know automatically when you make a flippant throwaway comment which has relevence to the question being posed? I made know assumptions. I was responding to your comments. If you don't like being picked up on them then make sure that you mention it as a joke.

 

As to hearing more preaching from Atheists than Religions in real life.......well where do you live as I find that VERY hard to believe. Even on these boards it seems to be a 50/50 split.


 

Bring up God around any athiest and they just wont shut up.

Honestly I cant rember the last time a "Wittnes" came to my door But I can point out 2 times this year at the collage some athiest going apeshit just because i brought up God.

Oh my, sounds like someone is tired of those 'uppity' Atheists who don't know their place in society.

So, are we to assume you simply 'mentioned' god, or did you jam some form of your religious view down the class's or Atheist's throat?

I'm guessing you were offensive in some way, and probably got what you deserved.  Of course, you'll slant your story to make it sound like you did nothing wrong and the Atheist was irrational with anger.  So, ignore the fact that I asked you a question, you'll just lie and distort the circumstances.  

Frankly, I'm tired of people and their anecdotal evidence.         

- LC


 

you dont need to jam a religious view down there throat or anything. I've run into a few athiests where if i or someone else mentions god they get all upset and they always make sure to explain their point of view and also explain how wrong everyone else is. And when i mean mention god, i mean making a statement about something happening, not trying to "convert" the other person. Seems like your stereotype isnt seeing eye to eye with everyone's encounters with athiests.

Although it can go both ways. I've heard of people running into more radical christians and/or muslims. It varies from person to person really, and if you cant really accept that, then i believe its safe to say that you are about as ignorant as anyone who gets all upset and bothered with the mentioning of 1 word.

I accept that it might happen, I just doubt the previous posters 'innocence'.  The typical situation is that people do not become angry unless provoked.  If a religious person only meets 'angry' atheists, then I question their harmless 'mentions' of god -- they are usually to blame for other peoples reactions. And, of course, vice versa.

I have met a few Christians who are angry and want to argue, but the majority have not been such.  If I had said, "Bring up Atheism around ANY Christian, and they just won't shut up.", then you should question my claim.  As I question the previous posters claim.  I think he is exaggerating.  Don't you?

- LC

  tayschrenn

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3/27/09 2:40:28 PM#51

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  tvalentine

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3/27/09 5:47:30 PM#52
Originally posted by LuckyCurse
Originally posted by tvalentine
Originally posted by LuckyCurse
Originally posted by Ekibiogami


 

Bring up God around any athiest and they just wont shut up.

Honestly I cant rember the last time a "Wittnes" came to my door But I can point out 2 times this year at the collage some athiest going apeshit just because i brought up God.

Oh my, sounds like someone is tired of those 'uppity' Atheists who don't know their place in society.

So, are we to assume you simply 'mentioned' god, or did you jam some form of your religious view down the class's or Atheist's throat?

I'm guessing you were offensive in some way, and probably got what you deserved.  Of course, you'll slant your story to make it sound like you did nothing wrong and the Atheist was irrational with anger.  So, ignore the fact that I asked you a question, you'll just lie and distort the circumstances.  

Frankly, I'm tired of people and their anecdotal evidence.         

- LC


 

you dont need to jam a religious view down there throat or anything. I've run into a few athiests where if i or someone else mentions god they get all upset and they always make sure to explain their point of view and also explain how wrong everyone else is. And when i mean mention god, i mean making a statement about something happening, not trying to "convert" the other person. Seems like your stereotype isnt seeing eye to eye with everyone's encounters with athiests.

Although it can go both ways. I've heard of people running into more radical christians and/or muslims. It varies from person to person really, and if you cant really accept that, then i believe its safe to say that you are about as ignorant as anyone who gets all upset and bothered with the mentioning of 1 word.

I accept that it might happen, I just doubt the previous posters 'innocence'.  The typical situation is that people do not become angry unless provoked.  If a religious person only meets 'angry' atheists, then I question their harmless 'mentions' of god -- they are usually to blame for other peoples reactions. And, of course, vice versa.

I have met a few Christians who are angry and want to argue, but the majority have not been such.  If I had said, "Bring up Atheism around ANY Christian, and they just won't shut up.", then you should question my claim.  As I question the previous posters claim.  I think he is exaggerating.  Don't you?

- LC


 

tbh i could believe it, and i could believe some religous people are the same way, there are some crazy people out there no matter what religous affiliation. I'm glad you responded calmly and didnt feel the need to add in any sarcastic jabs, it makes for a much easier conversation

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