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3/21/09 1:13:56 PM#21
Originally posted by javac continually sold out? Sir I must call you out on a statement that misleading. The truth of the matter is DF has staggered its release because regardless of the AI bots they said they had testing it, it wasnt ever stress tested properly. As far as having more people on their site than this one, well when I logged in today I saw at the top of the MMORPG.COM page that it has well over a million members. And growing by 5k a week is also a misnomer as again, with a staggered paid beta model theyre going for, they really limited access. The truth is ugly, so ugly in fact that you, like most hurting fans, twisted the truth to fit your argument.
so you agree they are continually sold out? that, sir, is a factually correct statement. yes we all know the initial release was small by today's standards but then so was their devel budget. regardless, they ARE sold out, get over it. also i said "the official forums have more people online than the whole of mmorpg.com" - here's a clue - the key word was ONLINE, which as of now is 212 members + 1200 guests ONLINE. as of right now, DF official forums have 3667 (1392 members and 2275 guests) ONLINE, more than double the whole of mmorpg.com. as for 5K/week, in late Oct 2008, prior to beta announcement, there were 70K members on the DF forums, now there is over 360K. that's 290K new accounts in 5 months, or 60K new accounts per month on average, which is an average of 12-15K new accounts per week. The actual observed rate has been a sustained 5K+ per week for at least the last 2 months i have been tracking the numbers. fact is, there is massive demand for the game.
as for the truth being ugly -- the real truth is that DF is doing really really well looking at the numbers. there are also plenty of good quality reviews around that verify the game is in fact, also good, which it is. Darkfall is more than fine.
Don't play with numbers, I'm one of the 290K official forums members, i was really interested in the game. After the release (or paid beta as you prefere) i decided this game it's not for me. I do to know of others like me, be sure not the 290K are trying to buy the game. How many? I don't know... you neither as far as you are not working for AV or got some spies there. Anyway you can call the demand as massive if you want. Really, what is massive? its massive considered in the actual total market of MMORPGs? sure not. Its massive considered the potential demand for FFA PvP full loot sandboxes? may be, but my guess is not. I know of a lot of people that will enjoy a game like this, that has been waiting long for a game like this, but right now they still are in the fence and waiting for free trial or back to L2, EVE, Shadowbane ...
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3/21/09 1:19:19 PM#22
Darkfall is simply the best game ever made. Nothing on the market comes close. |
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3/21/09 1:24:42 PM#23
Originally posted by Ruyn
I tend to disagree. Its very niche, so only very select people would find it the holy grail. Chances are, OP will not like this game. I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time. |
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3/21/09 1:29:07 PM#24
Originally posted by javac continually sold out? Sir I must call you out on a statement that misleading. The truth of the matter is DF has staggered its release because regardless of the AI bots they said they had testing it, it wasnt ever stress tested properly. As far as having more people on their site than this one, well when I logged in today I saw at the top of the MMORPG.COM page that it has well over a million members. And growing by 5k a week is also a misnomer as again, with a staggered paid beta model theyre going for, they really limited access. The truth is ugly, so ugly in fact that you, like most hurting fans, twisted the truth to fit your argument.
so you agree they are continually sold out? that, sir, is a factually correct statement. yes we all know the initial release was small by today's standards but then so was their devel budget. regardless, they ARE sold out, get over it. also i said "the official forums have more people online than the whole of mmorpg.com" - here's a clue - the key word was ONLINE, which as of now is 212 members + 1200 guests ONLINE. as of right now, DF official forums have 3667 (1392 members and 2275 guests) ONLINE, more than double the whole of mmorpg.com. as for 5K/week, in late Oct 2008, prior to beta announcement, there were 70K members on the DF forums, now there is over 360K. that's 290K new accounts in 5 months, or 60K new accounts per month on average, which is an average of 12-15K new accounts per week. The actual observed rate has been a sustained 5K+ per week for at least the last 2 months i have been tracking the numbers. fact is, there is massive demand for the game.
as for the truth being ugly -- the real truth is that DF is doing really really well looking at the numbers. there are also plenty of good quality reviews around that verify the game is in fact, also good, which it is. Darkfall is more than fine.
Javac, you are doing a great disservice to DF with your half truths, misinformation and bringing up non important statistics I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time. |
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egotrip
Novice Member
Joined: 12/24/08
Never fear i am here and if you don't like it kiss my rear |
3/21/09 1:38:23 PM#25
Originally posted by Trissa
so you agree they are continually sold out? that, sir, is a factually correct statement. yes we all know the initial release was small by today's standards but then so was their devel budget. regardless, they ARE sold out, get over it. also i said "the official forums have more people online than the whole of mmorpg.com" - here's a clue - the key word was ONLINE, which as of now is 212 members + 1200 guests ONLINE. as of right now, DF official forums have 3667 (1392 members and 2275 guests) ONLINE, more than double the whole of mmorpg.com. as for 5K/week, in late Oct 2008, prior to beta announcement, there were 70K members on the DF forums, now there is over 360K. that's 290K new accounts in 5 months, or 60K new accounts per month on average, which is an average of 12-15K new accounts per week. The actual observed rate has been a sustained 5K+ per week for at least the last 2 months i have been tracking the numbers. fact is, there is massive demand for the game.
as for the truth being ugly -- the real truth is that DF is doing really really well looking at the numbers. there are also plenty of good quality reviews around that verify the game is in fact, also good, which it is. Darkfall is more than fine.
Don't play with numbers, I'm one of the 290K official forums members, i was really interested in the game. After the release (or paid beta as you prefere) i decided this game it's not for me. I do to know of others like me, be sure not the 290K are trying to buy the game. How many? I don't know... you neither as far as you are not working for AV or got some spies there. Anyway you can call the demand as massive if you want. Really, what is massive? its massive considered in the actual total market of MMORPGs? sure not. Its massive considered the potential demand for FFA PvP full loot sandboxes? may be, but my guess is not. I know of a lot of people that will enjoy a game like this, that has been waiting long for a game like this, but right now they still are in the fence and waiting for free trial or back to L2, EVE, Shadowbane ...
This is what you said And this is what javac read: There are still 289,999 people still waiting to buy the game
P.s I'm 3 of those numbers btw Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray* |
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3/23/09 4:34:16 AM#26
Originally posted by jimmyman99
so you agree they are continually sold out? that, sir, is a factually correct statement. yes we all know the initial release was small by today's standards but then so was their devel budget. regardless, they ARE sold out, get over it. also i said "the official forums have more people online than the whole of mmorpg.com" - here's a clue - the key word was ONLINE, which as of now is 212 members + 1200 guests ONLINE. as of right now, DF official forums have 3667 (1392 members and 2275 guests) ONLINE, more than double the whole of mmorpg.com. as for 5K/week, in late Oct 2008, prior to beta announcement, there were 70K members on the DF forums, now there is over 360K. that's 290K new accounts in 5 months, or 60K new accounts per month on average, which is an average of 12-15K new accounts per week. The actual observed rate has been a sustained 5K+ per week for at least the last 2 months i have been tracking the numbers. fact is, there is massive demand for the game.
as for the truth being ugly -- the real truth is that DF is doing really really well looking at the numbers. there are also plenty of good quality reviews around that verify the game is in fact, also good, which it is. Darkfall is more than fine.
Javac, you are doing a great disservice to DF with your half truths, misinformation and bringing up non important statistics
bullshit. everything i posted is true. incidentally, forum signups are only a gauge of interest in the game, not actual demand, it's impossible to judge actual demand, duh. go look up what "indicative" means.
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