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  Aquitis

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/10/09
Posts: 20

 
3/17/09 1:14:03 AM#1

I have been playing Darkfall for a couple weeks and cant log off I haven't enjoyed playing a game this much for years.

World: DFO has an open world that is more impressive then any game on the market rite now.  It is enormous and unique in every area.  Every clan city and hamlet is unique no cookie cutter stuff that we are used to.  Guild cities have utility this is also unique it has a bank and a clan stone which allows your guild to center their operations in the same area. 

PvP: Honestly I could never go back to a tab+macro+dont look at your monitor and continue eating cheetos type of game.  Its like half FPS half mmo strategy.  Also the physics are amazing how when you shoot an arrow at someone you have to compensate for distance and aim higher.  Also this is the first game where you brought back the risk vs reward element of play.  PvP victories actually mean something again.  I mean I wont lie and say that I dont cuss out my computer when I loose and the person above me tells me I suck while looting all my stuff nothing sucks more then that but again I cant go back to meaningless PvP.  

Crafting/Pve: I hate both crafting and PvE.  But crafting is actually easy enough that I can handle it I am a bower so this helps me in easily providing unlimited arrows for myself.  Mobs can be very tricky to kill but again they put an end to the kill spider rest walk 20 feet kill another spider I will never play a game like that again. 

Darkfalls release has been fairly good that is if you can actually buy the game.  In my experience the servers have been stable there have been a few instances where for some reason all the mobs disappear but then they reboot the servers and they are back.  Also I have not seen widespread hacking.  The only thing I saw once was someone speed hacking and I reported them.

I am not a fanboy I am just some guy who enjoys MMO's if you want to come find me and take my gear for having an honest outlook on this game my name is Aquitis and I live at the Apollo Hamlet.

apollo.mmoguildsites.net/

 

 

 

 

 

  bballermc333

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/21/04
Posts: 283

"Impossible is Nothing"

3/17/09 2:00:07 AM#2

 Nice review man. I can't wait to get a copy of dfo my self.

  rhinok

Advanced Member

Joined: 2/01/07
Posts: 1790

3/17/09 2:14:50 AM#3

 I think it's great that you're enjoying yourself.  Fun is what it's all about.  That being said, I found myself questioning your post when I read "Darkfalls release has been fairly good that is if you can actually buy the game.":

  • It didn't really release on time - there were issues, so players were given 3 extra days
  • There were billing and account issues for many pre-order attempts, only some of which were the players' fault.  Some players still report not being able to play after having their accounts charged
  • Sales didn't open up beyond pre-orders for a few more days after that, essentially giving pre-orders early access to the game, something Tasos said Aventurine decided against
  • There's been widespread reports of exploiting, cheating and unattended macroing - so many that Aventurine has implicitly acknowledged the problems by reiterating their stance on these issues and by banning accounts - if these truly weren't widespread issues, they wouldn't have needed to publicly qualify their policies
  • Once the major synch issues were resolved from launch, most players reported being able to play with few issues, until Aventurine sold too many copies of the game, thereby creating both additional synch issues and long queues

So, I'm happy that you like the game, but the release wasn't good at all.

~Ripper

  Aquitis

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/10/09
Posts: 20

 
3/17/09 3:11:02 AM#4

Ripper,

Releasing on time:  I am a US player and there hasn't been a US release yet so I have chosen to play on a EU server reluctantly to play with my guild.  I didn't really take DF seriously because I found out it was a foreign developer and had no intention to play until it got such good reviews on my guild website.  

Billing and Account issues: I am in a guild of about 100 and no one in my guild that I am aware of had any account issues other then not being able to get the game. 

Exploiting/cheating/unattended macroing: I have also read and heard alot about this especially on these boards which also made me skeptical about playing however like I said in my initial post I have not witnessed this other then once and I reported the person weather the GM's banned the person or not I don't know but it only happened once and I am an active player.  unattended macroing is actually common with harvesters people who are mining or cutting lumber.  I have a loping macro myself that does this it allows me to harvest while talking on vent or sending tells while waiting for the clan raid to start.  There is a hudge downside to unattended macro'ing though as I have solo attacked a town and killed all the people mining or cutting then ran off with all their stuff I have got a lot of timber and ore this way. 

Synch issues:  I don't know exactly what that is but some people who got in the first day said that they would attack a mob but it wouldn't be there I got in the second week so I did not have these problems other then the one I listed above. 

From my perspective the release did go fairly well but I can certainly see where your coming from.

Also I think it is important that I did not make my post to draw flames just that I use this site to judge games and most posts on the MMORPG forums especially about Darkfall are either flaming the game with things that are not true or people praising the game with out really explaining what is so great about it.  I made no effort to hide the fact that I enjoy the game but provided sound reasoning for my conclusions and I was neutral to DF until I played it for a bit.  

 

Aquitis

Pround Captain of Apollo

apollo.mmoguildsites.net/

 

  xTwiSteDx

Novice Member

Joined: 3/17/07
Posts: 192

3/17/09 3:59:16 AM#5

You wait till the trolls and haters get wind of this thread....

Currently playing : Darkfall - EU1

  javac

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/13/08
Posts: 1266

3/17/09 4:44:20 AM#6

yes, darkfall is awesome. true story.

  Starkensploo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/17/09
Posts: 3

3/17/09 5:38:25 AM#7
Originally posted by javac

yes, darkfall is awesome. true story.


 

Awesome true story..

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=162899

  Arcken

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/14/04
Posts: 2577

Lets face it, MMOs today are turning into single player console games with a chat box included.

3/17/09 5:42:04 AM#8
Originally posted by javac

yes, darkfall is awesome. true story.


 

Id expect no less from you. I think torture might be the only way to get you to admit the truth about this game.

  SuperCrap

Novice Member

Joined: 6/09/07
Posts: 344

3/17/09 5:49:47 AM#9
Originally posted by Aquitis

I have been playing Darkfall for a couple weeks and cant log off I haven't enjoyed playing a game this much for years.

World: DFO has an open world that is more impressive then any game on the market rite now.  It is enormous and unique in every area.  Every clan city and hamlet is unique no cookie cutter stuff that we are used to.  Guild cities have utility this is also unique it has a bank and a clan stone which allows your guild to center their operations in the same area. 

PvP: Honestly I could never go back to a tab+macro+dont look at your monitor and continue eating cheetos type of game.  Its like half FPS half mmo strategy.  Also the physics are amazing how when you shoot an arrow at someone you have to compensate for distance and aim higher.  Also this is the first game where you brought back the risk vs reward element of play.  PvP victories actually mean something again.  I mean I wont lie and say that I dont cuss out my computer when I loose and the person above me tells me I suck while looting all my stuff nothing sucks more then that but again I cant go back to meaningless PvP.  

Crafting/Pve: I hate both crafting and PvE.  But crafting is actually easy enough that I can handle it I am a bower so this helps me in easily providing unlimited arrows for myself.  Mobs can be very tricky to kill but again they put an end to the kill spider rest walk 20 feet kill another spider I will never play a game like that again. 

Darkfalls release has been fairly good that is if you can actually buy the game.  In my experience the servers have been stable there have been a few instances where for some reason all the mobs disappear but then they reboot the servers and they are back.  Also I have not seen widespread hacking.  The only thing I saw once was someone speed hacking and I reported them.

I am not a fanboy I am just some guy who enjoys MMO's if you want to come find me and take my gear for having an honest outlook on this game my name is Aquitis and I live at the Apollo Hamlet.

apollo.mmoguildsites.net/

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why does your post read like an advertisement?  When you say things like this, "Also the physics are amazing how when you shoot an arrow at someone you have to compensate for distance and aim higher.", it is hard to do anything but laugh at your post.  It seems like something an advertising guy would write when trying to make a crappy product look good. 

The one and only.

  Raknar

Novice Member

Joined: 8/03/03
Posts: 196

3/17/09 5:54:50 AM#10

I just wish those few people who do enjoy the game could say so without making blatantly false statements about the rest of the MMO genre. Name one major release where tab-auto-attack, walk away is a viable strategy. Sure, you COULD do that, but you'd come back to the bindstone/graveyard/whatever. Don't make idiot statements like that to try to look more hardcore than the rest of us. Can't take one other word you typed seriously if your basic premise starts out with a falsehood.

  xTwiSteDx

Novice Member

Joined: 3/17/07
Posts: 192

3/17/09 5:56:57 AM#11
Originally posted by Raknar

I just wish those few people who do enjoy the game could say so without making blatantly false statements about the rest of the MMO genre. Name one major release where tab-auto-attack, walk away is a viable strategy. Sure, you COULD do that, but you'd come back to the bindstone/graveyard/whatever. Don't make idiot statements like that to try to look more hardcore than the rest of us. Can't take one other word you typed seriously if your basic premise starts out with a falsehood.

 

Wrath of the lich king?

 

Currently playing : Darkfall - EU1

  Arcken

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/14/04
Posts: 2577

Lets face it, MMOs today are turning into single player console games with a chat box included.

3/17/09 5:57:13 AM#12
Originally posted by Raknar

I just wish those few people who do enjoy the game could say so without making blatantly false statements about the rest of the MMO genre. Name one major release where tab-auto-attack, walk away is a viable strategy. Sure, you COULD do that, but you'd come back to the bindstone/graveyard/whatever. Don't make idiot statements like that to try to look more hardcore than the rest of us. Can't take one other word you typed seriously if your basic premise starts out with a falsehood.


 

Oh cmon,  this is a honed and oiled fanboi weapon. What better way to prove your game is superior than to belittle every other game on the market with an unfounded blanket statement?

  robertb

Novice Member

Joined: 2/26/09
Posts: 676

3/17/09 5:57:53 AM#13
Originally posted by SuperCrap

Why does your post read like an advertisement?  When you say things like this, "Also the physics are amazing how when you shoot an arrow at someone you have to compensate for distance and aim higher.", it is hard to do anything but laugh at your post.  It seems like something an advertising guy would write when trying to make a crappy product look good. 

 

The statement you quoted is actually true.

 

Is there something you find hard to believe about it?

 

How else, would one in fact explain how archery works in Darkfall, especially when related to other games in this genre?

  SuperCrap

Novice Member

Joined: 6/09/07
Posts: 344

3/17/09 6:01:46 AM#14
Originally posted by robertb
Originally posted by SuperCrap

Why does your post read like an advertisement?  When you say things like this, "Also the physics are amazing how when you shoot an arrow at someone you have to compensate for distance and aim higher.", it is hard to do anything but laugh at your post.  It seems like something an advertising guy would write when trying to make a crappy product look good. 

 

The statement you quoted is actually true.

 

Is there something you find hard to believe about it?

 

How else, would one in fact explain how archery works in Darkfall, especially when related to other games in this genre?

 

When you shoot an arrow at someone from a distance you have to aim higher = true.  This is an example of "amazing physics" = NOT true.  It is absurd to say this is amazing physics, it is the most basic possible physics that can exist in a game, in fact this same "amazing physics" has been present in video games going all the way back to the Atari arcade games of the early 1980s.  To say having to aim your arrows up is "amazing physics" is so ridiculous only an advert man or a retard would say that.  They must be easily amazed, or never played a video game before.

The one and only.

  Kyleran

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Joined: 9/13/06
Posts: 14598

A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf

3/17/09 6:03:17 AM#15

Well, personally I think you have to be a fan to be willing to jump through the hoops it takes to buy and install DF, but it was a decent write up, (you really should post a few negatives just for balance, every game has them).

Glad to see you and many others are having fun but am suprised you didn't mention the queueing issues, but then reports on those seem a bit erratic, some folks suffer severely, others not so much. (maybe it has more to do with what time of day a person plays?)

A lot of what you post sounds exciting, but be careful of over-exaggerating, such as with statements like this is the first game to b bring back risk vs reward. EVE's had it for quite some time, as well as some others, though it probably the first recent fantasy title to provide the full loot mechanic in quite a while.  But I do understand what you mean by the thrill of meaningful pvp, which really means you try to avoid dying at all cost, and crushing your opponent.

Good luck to you and one day if a US server opens (and they make it a bit easier to buy/install) I'll probably give it a go.

 

 

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  robertb

Novice Member

Joined: 2/26/09
Posts: 676

3/17/09 6:04:52 AM#16
Originally posted by SuperCrap
Originally posted by robertb
Originally posted by SuperCrap

Why does your post read like an advertisement?  When you say things like this, "Also the physics are amazing how when you shoot an arrow at someone you have to compensate for distance and aim higher.", it is hard to do anything but laugh at your post.  It seems like something an advertising guy would write when trying to make a crappy product look good. 

 

The statement you quoted is actually true.

 

Is there something you find hard to believe about it?

 

How else, would one in fact explain how archery works in Darkfall, especially when related to other games in this genre?

 

When you shoot an arrow at someone from a distance you have to aim higher = true.  This is an example of "amazing physics" = NOT true.  It is absurd to say this is amazing physics, it is the most basic possible physics that can exist in a game, in fact this same "amazing physics" has been present in video games going all the way back to the Atari arcade games of the early 1980s.  To say having to aim your arrows up is "amazing physics" is so ridiculous only an advert man or a retard would say that.  They must be easily amazed, or never played a video game before.

 

"Amazing physics" is an opinion, it is neither true nor false.

 

Where did you go to school?

  javac

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Joined: 8/13/08
Posts: 1266

3/17/09 6:05:52 AM#17
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by javac

yes, darkfall is awesome. true story.


 

Id expect no less from you. I think torture might be the only way to get you to admit the truth about this game.

 

i think torture might be the only way you'll open your eyes and see Darkfall is a pretty great game if you're the kind of person who likes PVP & the sandbox style.

 

qq.

  robertb

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Joined: 2/26/09
Posts: 676

3/17/09 6:08:07 AM#18
Originally posted by Kyleran

Well, personally I think you have to be a fan to be willing to jump through the hoops it takes to buy and install DF, but it was a decent write up, (you really should post a few negatives just for balance, every game has them).

Glad to see you and many others are having fun but am suprised you didn't mention the queueing issues, but then reports on those seem a bit erratic, some folks suffer severely, others not so much. (maybe it has more to do with what time of day a person plays?)

A lot of what you post sounds exciting, but be careful of over-exaggerating, such as with statements like this is the first game to b bring back risk vs reward. EVE's had it for quite some time, as well as some others, though it probably the first recent fantasy title to provide the full loot mechanic in quite a while.  But I do understand what you mean by the thrill of meaningful pvp, which really means you try to avoid dying at all cost, and crushing your opponent.

Good luck to you and one day if a US server opens (and they make it a bit easier to buy/install) I'll probably give it a go.

 

 

 

Indeed.

 

My current list of negatives are:

 

Aventurine seems unable to currently handle the demand for their game.

Aventurine seems to have some issue with their server code which is causing degradation of performance over time requiring server reboots to correct.

I wish my city had a gate, lol.

 

There are things I would like to see added, similar to what CCP has done, over time, but the issues I listed are the main ones causing me any issue, atm.

  javac

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Joined: 8/13/08
Posts: 1266

3/17/09 6:08:34 AM#19
Originally posted by SuperCrap
Originally posted by robertb
Originally posted by SuperCrap

Why does your post read like an advertisement?  When you say things like this, "Also the physics are amazing how when you shoot an arrow at someone you have to compensate for distance and aim higher.", it is hard to do anything but laugh at your post.  It seems like something an advertising guy would write when trying to make a crappy product look good. 

 

The statement you quoted is actually true.

 

Is there something you find hard to believe about it?

 

How else, would one in fact explain how archery works in Darkfall, especially when related to other games in this genre?

 

When you shoot an arrow at someone from a distance you have to aim higher = true.  This is an example of "amazing physics" = NOT true.  It is absurd to say this is amazing physics, it is the most basic possible physics that can exist in a game, in fact this same "amazing physics" has been present in video games going all the way back to the Atari arcade games of the early 1980s.  To say having to aim your arrows up is "amazing physics" is so ridiculous only an advert man or a retard would say that.  They must be easily amazed, or never played a video game before.

 

well to be fair, manually-aimed unlimited-range arrows that follow a parabolic trajectory and also impart their momentum to the target (knockback) *is* pretty new & different for a MMO.

  Nerph

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Joined: 10/11/06
Posts: 57

Its a trap!

3/17/09 6:14:14 AM#20
Originally posted by xTwiSteDx
Originally posted by Raknar

I just wish those few people who do enjoy the game could say so without making blatantly false statements about the rest of the MMO genre. Name one major release where tab-auto-attack, walk away is a viable strategy. Sure, you COULD do that, but you'd come back to the bindstone/graveyard/whatever. Don't make idiot statements like that to try to look more hardcore than the rest of us. Can't take one other word you typed seriously if your basic premise starts out with a falsehood.

 

Wrath of the lich king?

 

oh thats so funny... also its true btw... -_- tool

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