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General Discussion  » Ok so whats the problem AV is having, with getting new additional servers?

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  Zayne3145

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3/16/09 11:20:52 AM#21


Originally posted by krieblood

Originally posted by beaverz

Tasos would have to buy another laptop if he wanted to give df a new serv. And considering how clueless about mmos hte people from av are it'll prolly take a year or two until they realise that you cant run 40k+ people on their serv and try to buy a new serv.



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The difference is that most people attempting to code an MMO from scratch wouldn't come out and make arrogant comments like "it's feature complete" and "it could release today" when that's just plain not true. This whole circus is of Tasos' own making.

  Anubisan

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3/16/09 11:21:06 AM#22
Originally posted by tro44_1

Whats going on? How come AV cant get new servers? Is there a problem? What?

 

I think the basic problem is that they have absolutely no friggin' idea how to run a game of this type.

  User Deleted
3/16/09 11:25:46 AM#23

[quote]Originally posted by Ashrik

 



Originally posted by krieblood


Originally posted by beaverz
 
Tasos would have to buy another laptop if he wanted to give df a new serv. And considering how clueless about mmos hte people from av are it'll prolly take a year or two until they realise that you cant run 40k+ people on their serv and try to buy a new serv.



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This.
Probably the MMO is the only industry where you have to be able to create an MMO to be able to complain.
 
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  Ichmen

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3/16/09 11:30:01 AM#24

ya know its kind of funny.. a buddy of mine who works in the mmo field who does infact host his own private testing server for games hes working on (yes hes a nerd...and has enough time to make many personal server housings).... has no problem hosting a server. granted its not really the best as its a testing thing but still..

 

AV has no excuse to not beable to host a 2nd server... even if they broke their server in to a channel set where you have world 1 (channel 1) and world 2 (channel 2) all on the same game server (its been done before. im sure blizzard uses it without telling anyone.. its very cheap and easy to do) it really wouldnt be that hard for AV to provide something like that. hell as they made DF they have full access to the DB and scripts so they can copy them over (unless they are #$#$ retards and dont back-up their own game or have DB copies of their client) which means they would need a server admin to plug in the server, power it. set up the OS (generally windows of some sort as its most used virus on the planet) then upload their DB... and make sure its all working (total time would be 24hrs tops unless they have hardware issues/or delays)
 

but then again as others have said.. a com-64 is not easy to use for mmos i guess... heheh

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  xfrozenx

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3/16/09 11:32:24 AM#25

I really don't understand why Aventurine is running the game like this. Why do they refuse to actually sell the game in-stores like normal? Why is this game so complicated? You know good and well you're game is going to be a huge game and many are looking forward to play it yet you only allow a certain few in on the game so far. Selling accounts isn't a good way to gain a big community. While I realize that maybe they are trying to keep a small community, this isn't the way to go about it. What they are doing now should've been known from the get go. I would have never got interested in Darkfall. I'm not interested now  just for the fact that I don't like the way they've released this game. Worst release to date in my opinion.


  Ashrik

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3/16/09 11:34:03 AM#26

Dark green on grey? Seriously?

  popinjay

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3/16/09 11:39:18 AM#27


Originally posted by Angie-PvP

"Tasos does not care about you or anyone".

"Do not think that Tasos is taking his time bringing you a great game, after all they had close to a decade to do so".

Tasos is nothing more than a bullshit artist.

"I am sure it will not be long before Aventurine goes under either selling the game off or just closing it down".

"I am sure Tasos will give no word to his community before doing so just to steal the extra cash".


I don't know why you feel you have to mask your dislike of Tasos, or your hope the game will fail. You should speak your mind freely.


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  xzyax

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3/16/09 12:00:16 PM#28
Originally posted by Ashrik

Dark green on grey? Seriously?

 

Heh... I was thinking the same thing. 

 

Hmm, I wonder what this one will look like?

 

Wow!  That looks great! 

  Respit

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3/16/09 12:07:03 PM#29
Originally posted by rhinok
Originally posted by miagisan

this is almost becoming comical to watch. AV just keeps shooting their foot repeatedly.

And where did that 27 mil of investor money go? and yes, copying the world DB and opening up a second server cluster IS that easy, most COMPETANT mmorpg companies can get other servers online in 24-48 hours.

I used to think they secured 20 million euros (27 million USD at the time) in investor money, but I'm not sure that's the case.  Here's a quote:

Established in 1863, Lambadarios Law Of?ces has had an
encouraging year advising Chandris Hotels on a bond loan to
?nance the construction of a new hotel in Thessaloniki for €40
million, acting for Aventurine in relation to its issue of a €20
million convertible bond loan with Mar?n Bank.

~Ripper

 

The convertible bond loan was almost 1.5 years ago. I'm not exactly sure how convertible bond loans work in Europe, or what type it was. Maybe someone else can shed some light on this? But 20 million euros is a lot of money for a game that had been in full production since 2003.

 

From what little information that is out there, it seems like Aventurine obtained a grant(10 mill euros?) from the Greek government for this project.

Considering that Aventurine was formed for the development of Darkfall, this makes sense.

 

For some reason I can see Tasos picturing himself as a playboy, and I am sure there was some frivolous spending. I mean sponsoring a racecar team isn't cheap.

 

So, from all this speculation, they just flat ran out of cash, could not procure any more, and are now scrambling to try to salvage something. Also, considering they haven't even managed to stabilize the one server they do have, do you think it a good idea to open another?

And it isn't just a matter of hiring more people either. You have to remember, they wrote all this code themselves.

 

And yes, this is all speculation, but it is very clear that Aventurine is in full scramble mode right now.

 

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  Respit

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3/16/09 12:10:52 PM#30
Originally posted by xzyax
Originally posted by Ashrik

Dark green on grey? Seriously?

 

Heh... I was thinking the same thing. 

 

Hmm, I wonder what this one will look like?

 

Wow!  That looks great! 

I found it to be easy to read.

Then again

 

I like this also.

Go figure.  ; )

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  Hashbrick

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3/16/09 12:16:06 PM#31

Simple answer AV fucked up. They know they did and while excuses are being thrown every which way about anything that could be remotely covered up or distract the players. The truth is they didn't have the resources or the connections for an MMO launch, this will bite them in the ass if they don't get another server up fast. This is why business's need business people to help run the company not a bunch of frat brothers.


Originally posted by imbant

Did we say we were trying to do good for the game? the game is in the hands of aventurine, no one else...

  khartman2005

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3/16/09 12:30:35 PM#32
Originally posted by Respit
Originally posted by xzyax
Originally posted by Ashrik

Dark green on grey? Seriously?

 

Heh... I was thinking the same thing. 

 

Hmm, I wonder what this one will look like?

 

Wow!  That looks great! 

I found it to be easy to read.

Then again

 

I like this also.

Go figure.  ; )

His background is probably black like mine. I guess some people in this thread complaining about color text do not realize you can change the theme of the forums where you end up with a black background.

As for the OP. Aventurine doesn't have the infrastructure to open a second server as I highly doubt that even 10k people have bought this game. Yes, that is my opinion as it is with people that think 40 to 50k people have bought the game.

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