On March 21st you'll be asked to sign on the dotted line to pledge your support for Obama. Don't worry, you don't have to sign. This just helps sort out the good Americans from the racists that are trying to hold back progress.

Here's the Pledge Project Canvas Training Video direct from the Obama you-tube channel;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4NKllI3AfM

.. Oh man... if we don't get a holocaust by 2012 I'm going to be very disappointed.

Originally posted by vonomous

.. Oh man... if we don't get a holocaust by 2012 I'm going to be very disappointed.
 

I saw the video, and unless this is sarcasm... you really need help.

Where is the specific "bold plan" on ENERGY, HEALTH CARE, and EDUCATION?  

The Congress, especially the do-nothing Republicans, need a loud and clear message from the people that WE DO CARE on energy, health care, and education.

The person is probably right.  The special interest groups so control the policy directions on energy and health care that any meaningful change is impossible.  Education?  Obama has been bold by taking-on the teachers' union, and I respect him for that.  The government school system, however, is a total failure.  We will not admit this.  When it comes to government education, you are not getting any more of my money willingly.  Let students go to private schools.

Can you quit making these threads? 

Originally posted by declaredemer

Where is the specific "bold plan" on ENERGY, HEALTH CARE, and EDUCATION?  

 

 

The Congress, especially the do-nothing Republicans, need a loud and clear message from the people that WE DO CARE on energy, health care, and education.

 

The person is probably right.  The special interest groups so control the policy directions on energy and health care that any meaningful change is impossible.  Education?  Obama has been bold by taking-on the teachers' union, and I respect him for that.  The government school system, however, is a total failure.  We will not admit this.  When it comes to government education, you are not getting any more of my money willingly.  Let students go to private schools.

 

 

 

 

No, the left only cares about energy, health care, and education as a means to socialism and total power.

The education system is a total success, at least as far as the left is concerned -- it led to an ignorant people who elected the most socialist president in history.

Obama's boldness is how much he is expanding government and how fast is is doing it. I guess that's bold.

Originally posted by declaredemer

Where is the specific "bold plan" on ENERGY, HEALTH CARE, and EDUCATION?  

The Congress, especially the do-nothing Republicans, need a loud and clear message from the people that WE DO CARE on energy, health care, and education.

The person is probably right.  The special interest groups so control the policy directions on energy and health care that any meaningful change is impossible.  Education?  Obama has been bold by taking-on the teachers' union, and I respect him for that.  The government school system, however, is a total failure.  We will not admit this.  When it comes to government education, you are not getting any more of my money willingly.  Let students go to private schools.

 

Woa woa woa.. so if you don;t agree with Obamas plan that means you don;t care about energy healthcare or education? That you don;t volunteer in your community? I am sorry that is a complete load of bs. Considering I  have donated more than BIDEN ever has, am active in healthcare on the frontlines, and volunteer at the schools and my community.  

Why would  anyone ever need to sign support for Obama to accomplish any of these things? There are plenty of ways to volunteer already in every neighborhood. This is a deception and propaganda technique nothing more. I wouldn;t have signed anything BUSH brought to my door either, they do not need our signatures... never have never will. What exactly will they do with this information? decide who  they need to target? There is something seriously wrong with these methods. They could just put out flyers rather than try to force signatures. 

The pledge is necessary, and I support it.

We have to really resolve these issues:

• Energy, and
• Health Care

The Congress is beholden to many special interest groups and their money for reelection.  Obama actually wants to change things for the better and is limited to two terms.  We can rebuild the institutions of this country if there is enough popular support, and I believe that is what the pledge is all about it.

Originally posted by declaredemer

The pledge is necessary, and I support it.

 

We have to really resolve these issues:

• Energy, and
• Health Care

 

The Congress is beholden to many special interest groups and their money for reelection.  Obama actually wants to change things for the better and is limited to two terms.  We can rebuild the institutions of this country if there is enough popular support, and I believe that is what the pledge is all about it.

Yup, all hail Dear Leader Obama. there is no interest more special than Him.

Originally posted by declaredemer

The pledge is necessary, and I support it.

 

We have to really resolve these issues:

• Energy, and
• Health Care

 

The Congress is beholden to many special interest groups and their money for reelection.  Obama actually wants to change things for the better and is limited to two terms.  We can rebuild the institutions of this country if there is enough popular support, and I believe that is what the pledge is all about it.

I already say a pledge to my flag, to my country and to my state. I have no need to pledge myself to a person. Hilter required a pledge however.

Originally posted by deviliscious

I already say a pledge to my flag, to my country and to my state. I have no need to pledge myself to a person. Hilter required a pledge however.

The idea of a pledge seems foolish, even immature, but it might be necessary.

Washington, D.C. is not in a recession; it is booming right now.  The analysts, contractors, lawyers, lobbyists, and so forth are totally immune to the consequences happening in YOUR town.

The members of Congress are not in touch.  Show them that the public wants solutions on energy and health care.  We need to reduce the costs of energy and health care.  We need more efficiency.  We need better options.  We can do this.  Yes. We Can.

Originally posted by declaredemer

Originally posted by deviliscious

I already say a pledge to my flag, to my country and to my state. I have no need to pledge myself to a person. Hilter required a pledge however.

 

The idea of a pledge seems foolish, even immature, but it might be necessary.

 Washington, D.C. is not in a recession; it is booming right now.  The analysts, contractors, lawyers, lobbyists, and so forth are totally immune to the consequences happening in YOUR town.

 The members of Congress are not in touch.  Show them that the public wants solutions on energy and health care.  We need to reduce the costs of energy and health care.  We need more efficiency.  We need better options.  We can do this.  Yes. We Can.

If they were bringing a pledge to uphold and protect the constitution of the united states to my door I would gladly sign it . I will never swear loyaly or oath to any man, little loan a plan that is unconstitutional. WE HAVE BETTER OPTIONS. listen to our doctors, not the head corrupt lawyer in charge. They have offered up many plans.. he doesn;t care about that, that is not what this is about. It is about power. That is all . how can you be blind to that? This is just a tool he is using to get people to give him power.

Originally posted by declaredemer

Originally posted by deviliscious

I already say a pledge to my flag, to my country and to my state. I have no need to pledge myself to a person. Hilter required a pledge however.

 

The idea of a pledge seems foolish, even immature, but it might be necessary.

 

Washington, D.C. is not in a recession; it is booming right now.  The analysts, contractors, lawyers, lobbyists, and so forth are totally immune to the consequences happening in YOUR town.

 

 

The members of Congress are not in touch.  Show them that the public wants solutions on energy and health care.  We need to reduce the costs of energy and health care.  We need more efficiency.  We need better options.  We can do this.  Yes. We Can.

Yes we can -- do more of the same nonsense that got us into this mess. Only we can do it better faster, until all Americans are owned by the State.

Obama did not create this mess --it was the Bush Admin Republican-domination-- but he is trying to get us out of it.

Originally posted by declaredemer

Obama did not create this mess --it was the Bush Admin Republican-domination-- but he is trying to get us out of it.

 

 

No sir you are mistaken, he is on their side not the side of the people. If he were truely for the people he would abolish everything unconstitutional.. bottom line. He would not discard those rights like they are trash in his way ..  those rights exist for one reason one reason alone to protect us from them!  Why if a man is truely trying to help people would he want to discard the only protection provided for the American people in the first place?

 If you haven;t noticed .. Bush is gone.. he is doing nothing now, why would they need to fight him now? Why did Pelosi block impeachment of him if they didn;t need him to serve out his term? think about it..

Originally posted by declaredemer

Obama did not create this mess --it was the Bush Admin Republican-domination-- but he is trying to get us out of it.

 

 

Actually decades of big government is what caused it -- including Bush and republicans, and Obama is only working to make matters worse by doing more of the same, only faster and more than we have ever seen of these same bad policies.

Originally posted by deviliscious

No sir you are mistaken, he is on their side not the side of the people. If he were truely for the people he would abolish everything unconstitutional.. bottom line. He would not discard those rights like they are trash in his way ..  those rights exist for one reason one reason alone to protect us from them!  Why if a man is truely trying to help people would he want to discard the only protection provided for the American people in the first place?

 If you haven;t noticed .. Bush is gone.. he is doing nothing now, why would they need to fight him now? Why did Pelosi block impeachment of him if they didn;t need him to serve out his term? think about it..

I suppose I am surprised by Obama's support of the Patriot Act, which has been used in bizarre ways such as firing attorneys in the Department of Justice during the Bush Administration.

Some of us expected reform in that area, but we have seen it extended without sunset provisions during the Democratic Congress. 

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by declaredemer

Obama did not create this mess --it was the Bush Admin Republican-domination-- but he is trying to get us out of it.

 

 

 

No sir you are mistaken, he is on their side not the side of the people. If he were truely for the people he would abolish everything unconstitutional.. bottom line. He would not discard those rights like they are trash in his way ..  those rights exist for one reason one reason alone to protect us from them!  Why if a man is truely trying to help people would he want to discard the only protection provided for the American people in the first place?

 If you haven;t noticed .. Bush is gone.. he is doing nothing now, why would they need to fight him now? Why did Pelosi block impeachment of him if they didn;t need him to serve out his term? think about it..

It looks like he is keeping the worst of Bush intact but getting rid of the few good things Bush has done.

They need to keep attacking Bush because it is what they do. Hey it worked this long.

As I have said he is starting to make Bush look good.

Originally posted by declaredemer

Originally posted by deviliscious

No sir you are mistaken, he is on their side not the side of the people. If he were truely for the people he would abolish everything unconstitutional.. bottom line. He would not discard those rights like they are trash in his way ..  those rights exist for one reason one reason alone to protect us from them!  Why if a man is truely trying to help people would he want to discard the only protection provided for the American people in the first place?

 If you haven;t noticed .. Bush is gone.. he is doing nothing now, why would they need to fight him now? Why did Pelosi block impeachment of him if they didn;t need him to serve out his term? think about it..

 I suppose I am surprised by Obama's support of the Patriot Act, which has been used in bizarre ways such as firing attorneys in the Department of Justice during the Bush Administration.

 Some of us expected reform in that area, but we have seen it extended without sunset provisions during the Democratic Congress. 

They had more than enough grounds to impeach Bush for his blatent disregard for his Oath to uphold and protect the constitution during his first term in office, He committed treason against his own country! There never had to be a second term, the only reason there was a  second term was because PELOSI made sure of it.  care to explain that to me? Democrats were responsible for the second term of junior .. they could have been rid of him long ago .. why not?
 

Originally posted by declaredemer

Originally posted by deviliscious

No sir you are mistaken, he is on their side not the side of the people. If he were truely for the people he would abolish everything unconstitutional.. bottom line. He would not discard those rights like they are trash in his way ..  those rights exist for one reason one reason alone to protect us from them!  Why if a man is truely trying to help people would he want to discard the only protection provided for the American people in the first place?

 If you haven;t noticed .. Bush is gone.. he is doing nothing now, why would they need to fight him now? Why did Pelosi block impeachment of him if they didn;t need him to serve out his term? think about it..

 

I suppose I am surprised by Obama's support of the Patriot Act, which has been used in bizarre ways such as firing attorneys in the Department of Justice during the Bush Administration.

 

 

Some of us expected reform in that area, but we have seen it extended without sunset provisions during the Democratic Congress. 

Actually the firing of attorneys  had nothing to do with the patriot act -- that has always been the president's prerogative. Clinton fired his opposition too. It's what presidents do sometimes. They are political appointees in the exectutive branch -- they serve at the pleasure of the President. that is how the executive branch works.

The patriot act is a terrible affront to our rights, and as I predicted, Obama is all for it. More of the same, only worse. Told you I did, listen you did not.

He has done one good thing -- he has at least ssaid we won't torture people. I'll give him that.

Originally posted by Fishermage

Originally posted by declaredemer

Obama did not create this mess --it was the Bush Admin Republican-domination-- but he is trying to get us out of it.

 

 

 

Actually decades of big government is what caused it -- including Bush and republicans, and Obama is only working to make matters worse by doing more of the same, only faster and more than we have ever seen of these same bad policies.

Not Really. You just see it this way because you hate the concept. Government can and does work effectively. Just not when the people in charge hate it and are trying to destroy it. That is what got us in to this mess. The type of Government you seek is gone and not coming back, and we have to bring the best of that approach into the new era.