Originally posted by finaticd

EDIT: There are 17 MMOs on the market considered better by the players,as they have higher pops, and more comming soon!

If anything you should avoid this title just because of it's poor design and join and play AoC if your trying to be a non conformist. However, remember AoC was the 3rd - 4th highest selling game this year for PC so just imagine how many people it drove off.

EDIT: here is the list of more popular and probably better games as the gamers choose to play them:

1) WoW 2) Guildwars 3) silkroad online 4) cabal online 5) warhammer online 6) lotor 7) eve 8) flyff 9) shaiya 10) perfect world 11) runes of magic 12) Lineage II 13) maple story 14) second life 15) atlantica online 16) metin 2 17 Mabigogi

Then AoC:

Follow ups) EQ2, 12 sky, and  RF online

Source - www.xfire.com/games/

P.S. this game will need a better argument if it wishes to turn around from being an epic failure by pretty much any litmus test given.

There is one issue you allways "forget" to mention in your endless bickering about X-fire and subscriber numbers, and how players vote with their wallets, and that's the plain fact that it takes a pretty good computer to play AoC. That effectively means that the potential player base for AoC is much lower than for a game you can run on any old Pentium 2. And then you have X-fire numbers themselves. How on earth can you compare subscription numbers based on a kiddie tool like X-fire between games that are meant for kids and a age 18+ game?

A lot of people bought AoC to find out they could not play on their present rig. A combination of a future free trial and people upgrading their hardware will work in favor for this game in the long term.

Originally posted by steven1966

Hasn't Funcom been saying that " DX10 is almost ready" for about 9 months now.  I mean, seriously, they talk about it like it is right around the corner.   Stop lying.. it first went on the test server back in December?  Do you realize that is 4 months ago?  I'd also like to point out the difference between warhammer and AOC 'cut content'.   Warhammer announced the cuts 6 weeks before launch.... AOC announced the DX10 cut the day before launch.

Dead games have no development team... all they have is non-payed supporters who can talk about 'future' additions to the game that never seem to come.  Dead game is dead.

It's almost funny to see how long it will take for DX10 to go live and how long will fans defend Funcom . My guess is we will see DX10 in early November.

Originally posted by finaticd

EDIT: There are 17 MMOs on the market considered better by the players,as they have higher pops, and more comming soon!

If anything you should avoid this title just because of it's poor design and join and play AoC if your trying to be a non conformist. However, remember AoC was the 3rd - 4th highest selling game this year for PC so just imagine how many people it drove off.

EDIT: here is the list of more popular and probably better games as the gamers choose to play them:

1) WoW 2) Guildwars 3) silkroad online 4) cabal online 5) warhammer online 6) lotor 7) eve 8) flyff 9) shaiya 10) perfect world 11) runes of magic 12) Lineage II 13) maple story 14) second life 15) atlantica online 16) metin 2 17 Mabigogi

Then AoC:

Follow ups) EQ2, 12 sky, and  RF online

Source - www.xfire.com/games/

P.S. this game will need a better argument if it wishes to turn around from being an epic failure by pretty much any litmus test given.

silkroad online being at #3 shows just how fucked popular opinion is.

Originally posted by Preta

Originally posted by finaticd

EDIT: There are 17 MMOs on the market considered better by the players,as they have higher pops, and more comming soon!

If anything you should avoid this title just because of it's poor design and join and play AoC if your trying to be a non conformist. However, remember AoC was the 3rd - 4th highest selling game this year for PC so just imagine how many people it drove off.

EDIT: here is the list of more popular and probably better games as the gamers choose to play them:

1) WoW 2) Guildwars 3) silkroad online 4) cabal online 5) warhammer online 6) lotor 7) eve 8) flyff 9) shaiya 10) perfect world 11) runes of magic 12) Lineage II 13) maple story 14) second life 15) atlantica online 16) metin 2 17 Mabigogi

Then AoC:

Follow ups) EQ2, 12 sky, and  RF online

Source - www.xfire.com/games/

P.S. this game will need a better argument if it wishes to turn around from being an epic failure by pretty much any litmus test given.

 

silkroad online being at #3 shows just how fucked popular opinion is.

Rejoyce, it's not popular opinion but the opinion of XFire users

Originally posted by Timoshenko

 

It's almost funny to see how long it will take for DX10 to go live and how long will fans defend Funcom . My guess is we will see DX10 in early November.

Do you want to see it? Is it scary for you that it may kick ass and go well against the opinion you have formed therefore "lessening" that? Is that worrying?  Do you have any intention of playing?  Just curious so people know where you stand.

Originally posted by Tjommis

There is one issue you allways "forget" to mention in your endless bickering about X-fire and subscriber numbers, and how players vote with their wallets, and that's the plain fact that it takes a pretty good computer to play AoC. That effectively means that the potential player base for AoC is much lower than for a game you can run on any old Pentium 2. And then you have X-fire numbers themselves. How on earth can you compare subscription numbers based on a kiddie tool like X-fire between games that are meant for kids and a age 18+ game?

A lot of people bought AoC to find out they could not play on their present rig. A combination of a future free trial and people upgrading their hardware will work in favor for this game in the long term.

EDIT: X fire is pretty accurate, it is no secrete that fewer than 100,000 people play AoC so there should be quite a few games with a higher population.  Around 1 in 100 PC users probably use X fire, it should be no diffrent in AoC.  The only strange thing is how the entire AoC population seems to have missed out on a basic level understanding of stats in school. 

Xfire = Sample  of PC gamers ~ AoC = Population of PC gamers that play AoC.  AoC was #4 on X fire at one time so it is pretty silly to think that the numbers are off by to much.

If anything the AoC players with high end rigs would use X fire more often compared to "kiddie games."  AoC doesn't have a higher average age then any other fantasy RPG game, even WoW with 10 mil people has the same average age of 28.

Then your second argument is wrong when factoring in that AoC was the 4th highest selling PC game last year! Then if you played you would have noticed many instances (usually in the 6-8 range) of each zone running 1-80 and there were many more servers, release servers not second release servers. So many people were able to play this that the exodus could not be explained by a lack of people's systems. 

Finaly your implication that AoC is an "adult" game and others are "kiddie" games is disgusting and so far off base, if anything AoC has drawn the "childish" 28-year-olds.  MA =/= responsible adults, go play any MA game, get to know people, and you will be suprised at the number of real kids playing, many with more maturity than the 20 somethings playing.

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This game's future is dysmal and my point is there are 17 other games people are playing and most of them were not in the top 4 for PC game sales in any given year, much less last year.  It is pretty silly that the revisionist keep blaming this game's lack of sucess on bugs and tech issues, when it was a lack of "Fun", "PvP focus", "Content", etc that nailed this game's coffin.  WoW had issues at release and it did much better, because it had "Fun" and "Content", the lack of PvP focus hurt WoW at the begining, but before it was added there was much more world PvP, it was strange.

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I have a high end system but AoC played decently on my low end system to and when I play MMOs, aside from the indigent college students, most people have pretty wicked setups - that is what happens , people allocate money to what they spend their time doing.

Originally posted by Timoshenko

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Works good since they put it on test server :) few test hiccups but I am now seeing barely any fps difference from DX9 same settings now.

 

Why are you lying?

A few test hiccups?! Barely any fps difference?!

That is a straight up LIE. If you have played on test server (and I'm sure you have) you know DX10 is far from being ready.

Nice to have a Age of Conan Correspondent who lies to the public.

Great news then...since you've obviously played on the test server and know that AmazingAvery is just a shill. How is DX10 doing?

I also find it ridiculous...whoever provided the list of favorite mmos...to show where AoC places...and does not bother to mention how many are free 2 play.  Lets see...several were games that did not require a single penny to play...of course more than a few of those will rank. No matter how sh!tty! I love free cable and water when I had to look for a new apartment. Let's not forget air. I love the fact I can still breathe it for free...at least for the moment. When comparing apples with apples...let's make sure you either pick them both off a tree(preferably the same tree)...or buy them both from the market. thanks.