Originally posted by grimal

This game has the absolute worst player community.  Can't even ask a question in chat without someone calling you names.

I gave already up on community asking something in chat during beta, its not best player community out there.

You better join a clan that have same kind of social behavior and vison like you what you wanne see in Darkfall you prolly have better chance of getting some normal answers=)

After playing the game for less than a week I can say that I have not experienced a worst community, there is no manual for the game and the help section is of little help at all so one would think that asking questions to fellow gamers would be a way to help you during your harsh introduction.

however communication ( in my opinion) is one of the worst and most difficult parts of Darkfall. What ends up happening is that you ask questions in racial alliance  which of course draws out a 12 year old pissing contest on who can make the most smart assed comment before their bed time.

I am currently having fun with the game but the community sucks. (prolly should have excpected this)

Originally posted by grimal

This game has the absolute worst player community.  Can't even ask a question in chat without someone calling you names.

For a second i thought that topic will be about MMORPG.com community.

Sorry lad but I disagree I haven't been called names even once in DF. My clan is full of interesting people with average or higher IQ and I enjoy time with them. I don't really understand all that preaching about bad, immature community, that's not true at all.

Originally posted by Blindchance

Originally posted by grimal

This game has the absolute worst player community.  Can't even ask a question in chat without someone calling you names.

For a second i thought that topic will be about MMORPG.com community.

Sorry lad but I disagree I haven't been called names even once in DF. My clan is full of interesting people with average or higher IQ and I enjoy time with them. I don't really understand all that preaching about bad, immature community, that's not true at all.

No offense, and not to flame, but just because you ended up in good clan with a good community, doesn't mean that will be the same experience for everyone.  Not every clan will have people with average or higher IQs, and not every clan will be full of mature members.  While this person's experience may not hold true to your situation or someone elses situation, doesn't mean it won't hold true for them or others. 

That's the just the nature of online communities.  Some clans will be full of good kick a$$ people, and some will be filled with l33t d00dz and immature children, and some will be filled with a little bit of anything and everything.  If you ever get the mind to go clan hopping, you'll see what I mean.  And this isn't an issue specific to DFO (so I am not picking on DFO individually), but it's something you'll see in virtually every MMO.

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by Borkotron

I will admit that while chat in Darkfall is fun, it is rare that you are going to get a straight answer right away. While there are people who do help, the vast majority of Darkfallers think that being cool is being sarcastic and rude. It's like a badge of honor to them, sort of like the /b/ mentality.

The only way to tolerate this community is to find a good guild and ignore racial alliance chat and the forums. Otherwise, the people who play this game will make you hate the human race and happily dream for it's destruction.

 

Oddly enough, this comment could have been made about other major MMOs out right now as well.  I think online anonymity brings out the worst in people....even on web forums.

From my experience, I would say that the LESS PvP a game has....generally the more mature and cooperative the community tends to be.  Look at three other popular MMOs:

WoW

LotRO

EQ2

Of the three....WoW has the most PvP AND the worst community.  The player communities of LotRO and EQ2 seem much more mature and helpful, more cooperative, and more apt to answer new player questions, etc.

 

 

WoW has probably 10x the population of both EQ2 and LotRO put together. WoW is considered to be Half/Half on PvP, and the PvP servers had always outnumbered the PvE servers by ALOT. EVE online is probably the best community I've been with; especially for a game that offers all of the flexibility that it does. { Mod Edit }

Originally posted by grimal

This game has the absolute worst player community.  Can't even ask a question in chat without someone calling you names.

hands down worst community ever in any mmorpg ive ever played.  This game has become a magnet for a very specific and annoying personality type.

Originally posted by Rekindle

Originally posted by grimal

This game has the absolute worst player community.  Can't even ask a question in chat without someone calling you names.

 

hands down worst community ever in any mmorpg ive ever played.  This game has become a magnet for a very specific and annoying personality type.

Surely that's a good thing for those playing other MMO's :D

Hehe mmorpg.com community has 1000 times more pricks than DF one. But people consider it's ok...

Originally posted by Kshahdoo

Hehe mmorpg.com community has 1000 times more pricks than DF one. But people consider it's ok...

1. The mmorpg,com community has 1000 times more people than the DF one. The prick:people ratio beng constant that's a given.

2. People are wrong it's not "OK"

3. there are worse communities than either mmorpg.com or DF.

Originally posted by Sober_Sean

Just watch the youtube vids with voiceovers/running narration, or the live streams and you can actually listen to the type of people that play this game instead of just reading the words they type in chat.

 

People that never should speak in a public format, with either semi-mongoloid downs syndrome slurring of speech substituting the word "carebear" for most nouns and using profanity purely instead of adjectives.  Just trying to listen to one of these slugs describe the most mundane of things is an exercise in self restraint, akin to seeing just how long you could stand reaching your hand into a trash can filled with dirty diapers on a dare before you yank it out in disgust.  The kind of guy who sounds like he's choking on grape soda while eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, gasping for air with every breath and barely sputtering out his profanities because of the amount of neck fat constricting his larynx, the kind of guy who has to lean way back in his chair just to speak because of the pressure of the fat rolls choking out his vocal cords when he's hunched over his monitor with his ham-hock fists pounding away at the little greasy keys on his "gamer" keyboard.  The kind of guy who says "noobs" but pronounces it "nooooooooobs" every single time, like the lowing of a herd of cattle at sunrise before they're milked.

 

 A typical snippet of his conversation: "**slurggh slurgg slurgg munch munch munch cough cough** Man I don't know what the f*ck these f*cking carebears want out of this game man **wheeeze**, if you can't f*cking see how great of a game this is from the first f*cking second you log in then you're just a f*cking carebear and you should either kill yourself or go f*ck yourself. *munch munch wheeze*  I swear to god these f*cking noooooobs think they can come in here and start thinking they're the sh*t and swinging their sword around man but I f*cking just laugh man, these f*cking nooooobs weren't around in You Oh man we had sh*t going on like this from day f*cking one.  *snort snort cough gasp*  Now you see me in here and this is what it's all about man, look I got this sword and this is like a twitch game you know I'm not gonna have pity on you if I see you in here crying about getting your sack chopped off or...hold on I gotta fight this noooooob, yeah, see this is why I LOVE THIS GAME man, now I can just have no pity and kill this f*cking nooooob man (spins his character around to see if anyone is around then loots the headstone, clicking frantically on each item like he was a grandma at a Yarn Barn clearance sale)  ok what was I saying, oh yeah this f*cking WoW kiddies come in here and think they can step one foot out of the town and then we send them back crying to thier moms, sucking their t*ts talking about "Mom, these mean Darkfall guys killed me then looted me mom...waaaaaahhh" That'll f*cking teach you noooobs go back to wow you carebear kids nobody wants you here, NOBODY *snurgle gorgle gorlgle cough cough*"

 

Another type of person that seems to populate this game is the smarmy, know-it-all uber-geek who is in his mid 30's, yet whose voice has not yet cracked and insists on vocally enunciating internet acronyms such as saying "Loal" out loud when he could have just laughed, or remained silent.  The kind of person who pronounces each letter out loud in ROFL, slowly...each time something out of the ordinary happens or he disagrees with something, that something being anything and everything said by anyone not himself about literally anything at all happening anywhere in the game.

  A typical snippet of his conversation:   "Ar Oh Eff El dude no f*cking way, get the f*ck off that platform man I can hear fighting around the corner I swear I hear mana missle being cast, let's go f*cking kill that noob dude, haha yeah, let's go f*cking lewt that dewd...hey, hey ninja62 get your a** over here man Double You Tee Eff are you doing man? Didn't you nub cakes hear me tell you that I hear Mana Missiles over there?  F*cking Loal at you noobs man!"

 

I mean, seriously play these vids with commentary on youtube and around the net for a minute, then put the voices to the words you see in chat, you'll see I'm not even exaggerating in the least bit.

 

 

This is the most amazing post in this forum ever...

Damn, that's hilarious :D

Originally posted by Sober_Sean

Just watch the youtube vids with voiceovers/running narration, or the live streams and you can actually listen to the type of people that play this game instead of just reading the words they type in chat.

 

People that never should speak in a public format, with either semi-mongoloid downs syndrome slurring of speech substituting the word "carebear" for most nouns and using profanity purely instead of adjectives.  Just trying to listen to one of these slugs describe the most mundane of things is an exercise in self restraint, akin to seeing just how long you could stand reaching your hand into a trash can filled with dirty diapers on a dare before you yank it out in disgust.  The kind of guy who sounds like he's choking on grape soda while eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, gasping for air with every breath and barely sputtering out his profanities because of the amount of neck fat constricting his larynx, the kind of guy who has to lean way back in his chair just to speak because of the pressure of the fat rolls choking out his vocal cords when he's hunched over his monitor with his ham-hock fists pounding away at the little greasy keys on his "gamer" keyboard.  The kind of guy who says "noobs" but pronounces it "nooooooooobs" every single time, like the lowing of a herd of cattle at sunrise before they're milked.

 

 A typical snippet of his conversation: "**slurggh slurgg slurgg munch munch munch cough cough** Man I don't know what the f*ck these f*cking carebears want out of this game man **wheeeze**, if you can't f*cking see how great of a game this is from the first f*cking second you log in then you're just a f*cking carebear and you should either kill yourself or go f*ck yourself. *munch munch wheeze*  I swear to god these f*cking noooooobs think they can come in here and start thinking they're the sh*t and swinging their sword around man but I f*cking just laugh man, these f*cking nooooobs weren't around in You Oh man we had sh*t going on like this from day f*cking one.  *snort snort cough gasp*  Now you see me in here and this is what it's all about man, look I got this sword and this is like a twitch game you know I'm not gonna have pity on you if I see you in here crying about getting your sack chopped off or...hold on I gotta fight this noooooob, yeah, see this is why I LOVE THIS GAME man, now I can just have no pity and kill this f*cking nooooob man (spins his character around to see if anyone is around then loots the headstone, clicking frantically on each item like he was a grandma at a Yarn Barn clearance sale)  ok what was I saying, oh yeah this f*cking WoW kiddies come in here and think they can step one foot out of the town and then we send them back crying to thier moms, sucking their t*ts talking about "Mom, these mean Darkfall guys killed me then looted me mom...waaaaaahhh" That'll f*cking teach you noooobs go back to wow you carebear kids nobody wants you here, NOBODY *snurgle gorgle gorlgle cough cough*"

 

Another type of person that seems to populate this game is the smarmy, know-it-all uber-geek who is in his mid 30's, yet whose voice has not yet cracked and insists on vocally enunciating internet acronyms such as saying "Loal" out loud when he could have just laughed, or remained silent.  The kind of person who pronounces each letter out loud in ROFL, slowly...each time something out of the ordinary happens or he disagrees with something, that something being anything and everything said by anyone not himself about literally anything at all happening anywhere in the game.

  A typical snippet of his conversation:   "Ar Oh Eff El dude no f*cking way, get the f*ck off that platform man I can hear fighting around the corner I swear I hear mana missle being cast, let's go f*cking kill that noob dude, haha yeah, let's go f*cking lewt that dewd...hey, hey ninja62 get your a** over here man Double You Tee Eff are you doing man? Didn't you nub cakes hear me tell you that I hear Mana Missiles over there?  F*cking Loal at you noobs man!"

 

I mean, seriously play these vids with commentary on youtube and around the net for a minute, then put the voices to the words you see in chat, you'll see I'm not even exaggerating in the least bit.

 

 

Hands down, best read ever on the forums!  You, sir, should write a book...brilliant commentary..utterly brilliant!

I second that motion. Title it "Hardcore: The Darkfall player and a Pony"

honestly id pay for it

Seriously...a biting commentary of the MMO population as a whole...it would definitely sell. I'd buy it.

Originally posted by Kshahdoo

Hehe mmorpg.com community has 1000 times more pricks than DF one. But people consider it's ok...

Good attempt at proving that claim.
 

Sorry, I couldn't help it ;)

Originally posted by Wyldsong

Originally posted by Blindchance

Originally posted by grimal

This game has the absolute worst player community.  Can't even ask a question in chat without someone calling you names.

For a second i thought that topic will be about MMORPG.com community.

Sorry lad but I disagree I haven't been called names even once in DF. My clan is full of interesting people with average or higher IQ and I enjoy time with them. I don't really understand all that preaching about bad, immature community, that's not true at all.

 

No offense, and not to flame, but just because you ended up in good clan with a good community, doesn't mean that will be the same experience for everyone.  Not every clan will have people with average or higher IQs, and not every clan will be full of mature members.  While this person's experience may not hold true to your situation or someone elses situation, doesn't mean it won't hold true for them or others. 

That's the just the nature of online communities.  Some clans will be full of good kick a$$ people, and some will be filled with l33t d00dz and immature children, and some will be filled with a little bit of anything and everything.  If you ever get the mind to go clan hopping, you'll see what I mean.  And this isn't an issue specific to DFO (so I am not picking on DFO individually), but it's something you'll see in virtually every MMO.

LoL so what you are saying is DF community like all communties has a "little bit of anything and everything" and that problem with anonymity over the internet gives people chance to behave badly ? So why are we discusing "bad" DF community again ?

Well at least in DF with one character per account people work on their reputation from the very begining.

Originally posted by Blindchance

Originally posted by Wyldsong

Originally posted by Blindchance

Originally posted by grimal

This game has the absolute worst player community.  Can't even ask a question in chat without someone calling you names.

For a second i thought that topic will be about MMORPG.com community.

Sorry lad but I disagree I haven't been called names even once in DF. My clan is full of interesting people with average or higher IQ and I enjoy time with them. I don't really understand all that preaching about bad, immature community, that's not true at all.

 

No offense, and not to flame, but just because you ended up in good clan with a good community, doesn't mean that will be the same experience for everyone.  Not every clan will have people with average or higher IQs, and not every clan will be full of mature members.  While this person's experience may not hold true to your situation or someone elses situation, doesn't mean it won't hold true for them or others. 

That's the just the nature of online communities.  Some clans will be full of good kick a$$ people, and some will be filled with l33t d00dz and immature children, and some will be filled with a little bit of anything and everything.  If you ever get the mind to go clan hopping, you'll see what I mean.  And this isn't an issue specific to DFO (so I am not picking on DFO individually), but it's something you'll see in virtually every MMO.

LoL so what you are saying is DF community like all communties has a "little bit of anything and everything" and that problem with anonymity over the internet gives people chance to behave badly ? So why are we discusing "bad" DF community again ?

Well at least in DF with one character per account people work on their reputation from the very begining.

 

Giving people the chance to behave badly due to anonymity over the internet, not a subject I was even broaching...okay...not sure how you read that in my post at all.  I talked about different clans, and how each person, based on a choice of clan will have a different experience than others.  I wasn't speaking of the Darkfall community as a whole, but each microcosm of a community within the game (ie - the clans).  The one poster disregarded another poster's experience, and I simply pointed out that everyone will have a different experience based on their choices.

As for the community as a whole, it may very well be the case that they have more a$$hat$ than the average game.  Don't know, cause I haven't played it, nor do I intend to.  I just simply posted in response to an all encompassing statement that issues with a "bad, immature community was not true at all".

So, take my words as you will, but I do agree with you on the one character per account thing.

Originally posted by Wyldsong

Giving people the chance to behave badly due to anonymity over the internet, not a subject I was even broaching...okay...not sure how you read that in my post at all.  I talked about different clans, and how each person, based on a choice of clan will have a different experience than others.  I wasn't speaking of the Darkfall community as a whole, but each microcosm of a community within the game (ie - the clans).  The one poster disregarded another poster's experience, and I simply pointed out that everyone will have a different experience based on their choices.

As for the community as a whole, it may very well be the case that they have more a$$hat$ than the average game.  Don't know, cause I haven't played it, nor do I intend to.  I just simply posted in response to an all encompassing statement that issues with a "bad, immature community was not true at all".

So, take my words as you will, but I do agree with you on the one character per account thing.

That poster was me, in my opinion as a person who actually plays the game DF community is not different then another MMO, you have whole spectrum of characters and I like it. One day you can be saved from sure death by a stranger, another you can be ambushed by group of sadistic renegades. One day you make a friend another and enemy. I have seen examples where reputation of same players came after them from times of Ultima Onlina, old hatreds and friendships shape Darkfall world. Clash of different characters and groups, that's what make this game like any other MMO less shallow then a  typical pvp fps game.

Of course you can see leet talking idiots or clans like Goons which members or even leaders make me feel sick, but you can avoid this kind of people in gaming community. 

 One reason I quit playing mmos is because of general community. Some are worse, some are better, but all have those kind of players. Sure DF is 90% those players and WoW is like 60% but still they are everywhere. 

Who wants to play a game with someone that cusses every second word and thinks he knows everything? They also mostly all talk like 14 year olds even though they say they are like 24.

Originally posted by Blindchance

Originally posted by Wyldsong

Giving people the chance to behave badly due to anonymity over the internet, not a subject I was even broaching...okay...not sure how you read that in my post at all.  I talked about different clans, and how each person, based on a choice of clan will have a different experience than others.  I wasn't speaking of the Darkfall community as a whole, but each microcosm of a community within the game (ie - the clans).  The one poster disregarded another poster's experience, and I simply pointed out that everyone will have a different experience based on their choices.

As for the community as a whole, it may very well be the case that they have more a$$hat$ than the average game.  Don't know, cause I haven't played it, nor do I intend to.  I just simply posted in response to an all encompassing statement that issues with a "bad, immature community was not true at all".

So, take my words as you will, but I do agree with you on the one character per account thing.

That poster was me, in my opinion as a person who actually plays the game DF community is not different then another MMO, you have whole spectrum of characters and I like it. One day you can be saved from sure death by a stranger, another you can be ambushed by group of sadistic renegades. One day you make a friend another and enemy. I have seen examples where reputation of same players came after them from times of Ultima Onlina, old hatreds and friendships shape Darkfall world. Clash of different characters and groups, that's what make this game like any other MMO less shallow then a  typical pvp fps game.

Of course you can see leet talking idiots or clans like Goons which members or even leaders make me feel sick, but you can avoid this kind of people in gaming community. 

 

No arguments here.  Some of your points are reasons why I like the pvp aspects of some MMOs.  Of course l33t speaking d00dz are never an enjoyable aspect of any game, nor are clans/guilds that are the lowest common denominator (griefers, hackers, exploiters, and the like).  All in all, glad to hear you are enjoying your game.