Originally posted by Andorae

Reality check - people do things for excitement and challenges. You could either go climb that small rock behind your house, or you could go climb everest. You can either go to the swimming hall and dive down and swim around at the bottom, or you could go diving in the big blue with sharks and what not.

 

WoW would be the first of these choices, Darkfall the latter.

I'll be sure to add Darkfall as one of my life-long achievements and accomplishments, the game is really hard and deserves to be right up there with climbing Mount Everest.

Don't compare virtual games to real life. Honestly.

Originally posted by Benthon

Originally posted by Andorae

Reality check - people do things for excitement and challenges. You could either go climb that small rock behind your house, or you could go climb everest. You can either go to the swimming hall and dive down and swim around at the bottom, or you could go diving in the big blue with sharks and what not.

 

WoW would be the first of these choices, Darkfall the latter.

 

I'll be sure to add Darkfall as one of my life-long achievements and accomplishments, the game is really hard and deserves to be right up there with climbing Mount Everest.

 

Don't compare virtual games to real life. Honestly.

I'm not saying you should, but the principle is the same. Some people play games that are more channelnging and excitement because thats what they want.

Originally posted by Andorae

Originally posted by Benthon

Originally posted by Andorae

Reality check - people do things for excitement and challenges. You could either go climb that small rock behind your house, or you could go climb everest. You can either go to the swimming hall and dive down and swim around at the bottom, or you could go diving in the big blue with sharks and what not.

 

WoW would be the first of these choices, Darkfall the latter.

 

I'll be sure to add Darkfall as one of my life-long achievements and accomplishments, the game is really hard and deserves to be right up there with climbing Mount Everest.

 

Don't compare virtual games to real life. Honestly.

I'm not saying you should, but the principle is the same. Some people play games that are more channelnging and excitement because thats what they want.

There is a flaw in this as well. I played DF beta and it s far from hard IMO. Annoying yes, hard no.
 

Originally posted by Andorae

I'm not saying you should, but the principle is the same. Some people play games that are more channelnging and excitement because thats what they want.

There are fine lines between "frustrating" "annoying" "grindy" and "hard". I bet this game falls more into the category of the first three rather than "hard".

Originally posted by Benthon

Originally posted by Andorae

I'm not saying you should, but the principle is the same. Some people play games that are more channelnging and excitement because thats what they want.

 

There are fine lines between "frustrating" "annoying" "grindy" and "hard". I bet this game falls more into the category of the first three rather than "hard".

Not really, if you are in a good clan, which you should since darkfall is heavily based on group play rather than solo, it is very easy to do things, i farm mobs everyday with my clansmen without and difficulty, and its fun as hell, we are also engaging in a lot of wars, we're actually having one in 4 hours. (Waiting for their city to become vulnerable)

Originally posted by Andorae

Originally posted by Benthon

Originally posted by Andorae

I'm not saying you should, but the principle is the same. Some people play games that are more channelnging and excitement because thats what they want.

 

There are fine lines between "frustrating" "annoying" "grindy" and "hard". I bet this game falls more into the category of the first three rather than "hard".

 

Not really, if you are in a good clan, which you should since darkfall is heavily based on group play rather than solo, it is very easy to do things, i farm mobs everyday with my clansmen without and difficulty, and its fun as hell, we are also engaging in a lot of wars, we're actually having one in 4 hours. (Waiting for their city to become vulnerable)

This is what he meant, it s ot hard in that situation, without a clan it s frusterating etc not hard. Far from it.
 

Originally posted by Andorae

Originally posted by Benthon

 

There are fine lines between "frustrating" "annoying" "grindy" and "hard". I bet this game falls more into the category of the first three rather than "hard".

 

Not really, if you are in a good clan, which you should since darkfall is heavily based on group play rather than solo, it is very easy to do things, i farm mobs everyday with my clansmen without and difficulty, and its fun as hell, we are also engaging in a lot of wars, we're actually having one in 4 hours. (Waiting for their city to become vulnerable)

What you just described could be "frustrating" "annoying" and you definitely described "grindy" by saying:

"I farm mobs everyday with my clansmen without any difficulty".

Didn't you just say this game was hard. Make up your mind.

Originally posted by jonyak

Originally posted by junzo316

First off, this isn't my sort of game.  I'm not really into PvP in my MMO experience.  Does that make me a "carebear"?  Maybe.  But even if this was a PvE/sandbox game, because of the graphics, animation, potential for hacking, the sloppy AI, the boring game play, and Aventurine, there would be NO WAY I would purchase this.  There are other PvP games that are far better (Eve).  It just scares me to think that people have purchased this.  It just gives precedent to other companies to think they can do the same as Aventurine and release this type of garbage.

 

I wish I could "Know" things about games without playing them.

Read reviews watch videos.  Its not hard to find information.  Maybe you should research before responding...

Originally posted by Einstein-DF

Originally posted by junzo316

First off, this isn't my sort of game.  I'm not really into PvP in my MMO experience.  Does that make me a "carebear"?  Maybe.  But even if this was a PvE/sandbox game, because of the graphics, animation, potential for hacking, the sloppy AI, the boring game play, and Aventurine, there would be NO WAY I would purchase this.  There are other PvP games that are far better (Eve).  It just scares me to think that people have purchased this.  It just gives precedent to other companies to think they can do the same as Aventurine and release this type of garbage.

 

Junzo make up some more crap

 

Just FYI ALL the games you have played and will ever play in your life suck compared to Darkfall.

 

:P

Which statement was incorrect? Or made-up?

Originally posted by schloob

I have been in the game 20min after queuing for 2hrs and so far I just want to quit.  How do you send a tell and how do you sit?  Anyone know?  I will rpobably log off for awhile since there are no mobs in the game and it is completely counterintuitive system.  Wow I thought AoC was bad.  Anyways, let me know if you know how to sit and/or send a tell.

Wow you are a smart one.  You sit by using the rest skill.   You send a tell by hitting yourself in the face with a hammer.

Originally posted by Mr_Hand

Originally posted by mushizo

Originally posted by schloob

I have been in the game 20min after queuing for 2hrs and so far I just want to quit.  How do you send a tell and how do you sit?  Anyone know?  I will rpobably log off for awhile since there are no mobs in the game and it is completely counterintuitive system.  Wow I thought AoC was bad.  Anyways, let me know if you know how to sit and/or send a tell.

 

To sit, you need to open up your skill list (rightclick the screen to switch actionmode on/off) then in your skill list, in the general section, find the skill called REST, drag it onto your hotbar. Then you you use R to sheathe your weapon (assuming you have one unsheathed), and then press the hotbutton to make Rest your active skill, then left click to use it. (your avatar will then sit down and enter rest mode)

it sounds a bit complicated for something as simple as sitting down... but eventually the buttonclicking becomes a habit and you wont think much about it when you do it. 

 

you send a tell with /tell name surname blahblah (ie. /tell Random Gankster Hello, can i have my stuff back please?)

 

another thing you might like to know is the ' /bindstone recall ' (it casts a recall, no cooldown, but a 1-2 minute cast time, dont know how long it is... but it sure as heck feels like 5 minutes when you are in hostile territory ;) )

and /annotation_add Bank (it will add a mapnote with the text Bank , on your current location.)

 

 

Yep, sounds like alpha stage placeholders.  Simply because, it's 2009 and Aventurine cannot figure out how to make a real hotbar, so when you press a command, it happens.  So you must now just simply macro a sit command on my G15.

Yeah...   Darkfall is uber advanced GUI...   LOL

 

 

I have to agree.  How idiotic to have to macro something that SHOULD be as simple as /rest or /sit.  FFS people....it's 2009.  

You know, I WAS waiting for Darkfall....cautiously.  But the more I have heard since launch....the happier I am that I didn't jump in with wild abandon and hyper enthusiasm like some people did, because if I had wasted all that emotional energy and PAID for a game that is how most describe DF at this point.....I would have been INSANELY irritated.

Originally posted by Thoric485

*log in*

OH NO WHAT IS THIS PLACE OF STRANGE. I MUST READ LONG LESSON TO LEARN PLAY FUN. THE WORDS, THEY BURN MY HEAD-INSIDES!

*log off*

Based on true story.

epic

i just laughed my ass off at that one :)

You wanna hear why I like this game? I'm not a fanboy or anything (thought it sucked before I bought it) but I really like this game. You gonna talk shit about me too? 

First, you have to play it to know. Don't get your facts from youtube videos. Second, I like this game because of how it sucks you in. Seriously I was chasing a full scale armor guy with a sliver of health left through the forest and my heart was freakin pounding. Too bad he got away, but my heart was pounding(!) with excitement. Yes it may be unpolished, yes it may have bugs, but seriously there is no MMO I'd rather play.

And you know why it's a really good game? Because it's out right now. Name me any full loot PvP seamless world in a medieval setting. It doesn't EXIST (not now at least, not gonna play a 10 year old game). So until MO or something else comes out and takes over I WILL be playing this because it is a GOOD game comparable to present standards.

Originally posted by Xaaa

ROFL, I love watching the uneducated crap brain fanbois try and argue for this game.  Nothing gives me a better laugh.  Raw stupidity at it's finest.

There are awesome people in life, and non-awesome people.  Just because you non-awesome people like this game doesn't make the game awesome.

In fact, the game is steaming pile of sh*t.  We've told you why.  You refuse to accept it.

Instead, you come back with baseless claims of why this game is l33t.  Big battles? Open PvP?  Sandbox? Ships?  Objective-based PvP?  It's all been done before.  Not only that, but the way it's done in this game is completely half-as$ed.

The draw to this game isn't centered around there existing a strategic core, or high-end open world experience.  It's about being able to be a little turd and dupe/cheat/scam/grief some other player out of something they value.  YEAH MAN, good reason to play a game.  I really want to play with a bunch of f'in retards who play a game like this.  You completely lack the skill to win a real FPS objective-based game, so you come play in your little fantasy world where you have the opportunity to lie and cheat your way to success.  Something tells me you treat real life the same way.

Going to cry?  I'm sure you'll lie about that as well.

F'in losers.  Learn your place in the world.  STFU.

Did that guy really just say all that?  Was he serious?  I assume he was not being serious considering how absolutely insane his statements were.  Maybe that makes me non-awesome?  lol....

Originally posted by Xaaa

Just because you non-awesome people like this game doesn't make the game awesome.

I laughed heartily at this statement...

This guy's logic is very uninspiring... is this what humanity is degrading to?

You fail to make a valid argument.  A valid argument (in this case) would be: "Just because you non-awesome people like this game doesn't make the game non-awesome."

LOL, funny guy, this Xaaa.

Originally posted by xiirot

Originally posted by Xaaa

ROFL, I love watching the uneducated crap brain fanbois try and argue for this game.  Nothing gives me a better laugh.  Raw stupidity at it's finest.

There are awesome people in life, and non-awesome people.  Just because you non-awesome people like this game doesn't make the game awesome.

In fact, the game is steaming pile of sh*t.  We've told you why.  You refuse to accept it.

Instead, you come back with baseless claims of why this game is l33t.  Big battles? Open PvP?  Sandbox? Ships?  Objective-based PvP?  It's all been done before.  Not only that, but the way it's done in this game is completely half-as$ed.

The draw to this game isn't centered around there existing a strategic core, or high-end open world experience.  It's about being able to be a little turd and dupe/cheat/scam/grief some other player out of something they value.  YEAH MAN, good reason to play a game.  I really want to play with a bunch of f'in retards who play a game like this.  You completely lack the skill to win a real FPS objective-based game, so you come play in your little fantasy world where you have the opportunity to lie and cheat your way to success.  Something tells me you treat real life the same way.

Going to cry?  I'm sure you'll lie about that as well.

F'in losers.  Learn your place in the world.  STFU.

 

Did that guy really just say all that?  Was he serious?  I assume he was not being serious considering how absolutely insane his statements were.  Maybe that makes me non-awesome?  lol....

Yep, he pretty much summed up the DF fanbois fairly well.  I'm fairly certain the fans of DF know deep down inside themselves that DF is a piece of shit game.  They just refuse to take their heads out of the sand.  And anyone who actually loves the game needs to step away from their keyboard and reflect a bit.  Or maybe just get out in the world some.

 I have Darkfall....

I play Darkfall... 

It's not perfect.... it needs work... I quite enjoy it so far.

Suprsing how the Ol' left click combat actually draws you in a little more... It is different... so used pressing one key e.g. 7 - Stabbing Sword of Flaming Destruction (attack) and watch my avatar go through some contorted movement with flames following the sword swing (looks impressive)... Now I attack where I aim, when I decide to... and if I miss it's my fault not some roll of dice behind the screen.

It's not the best game... it's not the worst (I played Dark and Light!).

Just have to see how it develops along the way.

Originally posted by Arun

 I have Darkfall....

 

I play Darkfall... 

 

It's not perfect.... it needs work... I quite enjoy it so far.

 

Suprsing how the Ol' left click combat actually draws you in a little more... It is different... so used pressing one key e.g. 7 - Stabbing Sword of Flaming Destruction (attack) and watch my avatar go through some contorted movement with flames following the sword swing (looks impressive)... Now I attack where I aim, when I decide to... and if I miss it's my fault not some roll of dice behind the screen.

It's not the best game... it's not the worst (I played Dark and Light!).

 

Just have to see how it develops along the way.

 

That's a great attitude and I wish more people had it.  It's possible to have fun and enjoy the game, but still recognize that it's not perfect and needs work.  Likewise, the fact that I recognize Darkfall has issues and want to discuss them doesn't mean I'm not interested in it, nor does it mean I don't want it to succeed.  To paraphrase Newt Gingrich (great sig, popinjay):

“You’ve got to want Darkfall to succeed. You’re irrational if you don’t want Darkfall to succeed.”

~Ripper

Originally posted by EbonHawk

Yep, he pretty much summed up the DF fanbois fairly well.  I'm fairly certain the fans of DF know deep down inside themselves that DF is a piece of shit game.  They just refuse to take their heads out of the sand.  And anyone who actually loves the game needs to step away from their keyboard and reflect a bit.  Or maybe just get out in the world some.

Well, I suppose a fanboi of any game may seem like a raving lunatic at the best of times (however the same can be said about haters or what have you).

Anyone who defends their opinion adamantly may/will come off as aggressive and defensive, or even belligerent.  The opinion doesn't have to stop at Darkfall, it could be real events in the real world besides Darkfall.  However, Darkfall seems to be the only thing on the minds of fans and haters alike.

If someone hates the game, they are going to defend the reasons they hate it.  If someone likes the game, they will also defend their reasoning.

Your opinion is your opinion, as mine is my own.  We sometimes seek confirmation of our opinions, just for reassurance that  our opinion is valid and well formed.  But it doesn't matter, because an opinion is something of a personal nature.

It's what YOU like that's important.  If you dislike Darkfall, find something else to waste your time on.  If you like Darkfall, then you have found something you like to waste your time on...  pretty simple, no?

Originally posted by EbonHawk

Originally posted by xiirot

Originally posted by Xaaa

ROFL, I love watching the uneducated crap brain fanbois try and argue for this game.  Nothing gives me a better laugh.  Raw stupidity at it's finest.

There are awesome people in life, and non-awesome people.  Just because you non-awesome people like this game doesn't make the game awesome.

In fact, the game is steaming pile of sh*t.  We've told you why.  You refuse to accept it.

Instead, you come back with baseless claims of why this game is l33t.  Big battles? Open PvP?  Sandbox? Ships?  Objective-based PvP?  It's all been done before.  Not only that, but the way it's done in this game is completely half-as$ed.

The draw to this game isn't centered around there existing a strategic core, or high-end open world experience.  It's about being able to be a little turd and dupe/cheat/scam/grief some other player out of something they value.  YEAH MAN, good reason to play a game.  I really want to play with a bunch of f'in retards who play a game like this.  You completely lack the skill to win a real FPS objective-based game, so you come play in your little fantasy world where you have the opportunity to lie and cheat your way to success.  Something tells me you treat real life the same way.

Going to cry?  I'm sure you'll lie about that as well.

F'in losers.  Learn your place in the world.  STFU.

 

Did that guy really just say all that?  Was he serious?  I assume he was not being serious considering how absolutely insane his statements were.  Maybe that makes me non-awesome?  lol....

Yep, he pretty much summed up the DF fanbois fairly well.  I'm fairly certain the fans of DF know deep down inside themselves that DF is a piece of shit game.  They just refuse to take their heads out of the sand.  And anyone who actually loves the game needs to step away from their keyboard and reflect a bit.  Or maybe just get out in the world some.

You know, I dont play DF... but it is straight up pathetic that so many people spend their time trying to talk them out of enjoying a game that they are having fun playing.

Why do you guys even care that they are having fun? Do you get kicks out of attempting to ruin it for them? Do you think telling them that their just blind fanboys is going to talk them out of it? Does it make you feel better about yourself or something?

Very ironic that so many seem proud of themselves by calling others "Fanbois" as if they are making the "Fanbois" look bad, when in reality they are just making themselves look like pathetic people who get kicks out of trying to ruin enjoyment for others...

Maybe if you guys were not so miserable that you cant find something that brings yourselves enjoyment, you wouldnt be on here trying to make others feel as miserable as you...