• Sound and Music

Im not gonna even argue about those, cause the music of AoC is outstanding by general consensus. its one of the few games where you hesitate to turn off the music or even to lower it down... its original, straight to the point, full of context and REAL music not amateur engineered compositions.

• Graphics

If there is something that even flamers agree on, is that AoC have the best looking graphics ever to be found in an mmo up to date. some will say, oh but the gfx are not that important, and I say: YES, ITS FREAKING SOOO IMPORTANT, especially in a fantasy mmo where "fantasy" stuff is supposed to happen ! and where you, as a charcter, are supposed to explore and enjoy a world full of odd lore. so yes again: GRAPHYCS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.

and as someone already said on another thread: in an MMO, content can be and supposed to be added regularly and eventually, but how affen do you see mmos remake their gfx engine?

bugs can be fixed, content can be added, but gfx can NOT be enhanced.

• Lore

 I think the free world was in real need of something other than Elfs VS Humans VS Orcs VS Gobblins VS Dwarfs... so it was about time someone gets creative again.

it is very clear that the game respects the geographical properties especial in human NPCs, names for instance are carefully chosen with respect to the culture. in most other games especially the ones directed for European/ NA audiences, those smaller details are left to developement hazard... i, personally dont like being taken for an idiot, so if an M rated game have a Chineese NPC called Yamato which is purely Japanese, ill be very pissed.... cause that totally kills the buzz.

• Potential

As a whole, AoC is the game with most potential on the market, while some people argue that other fantasy mmos have more potential, i see AoC as the only one that have a REAL potential of being an EPIC mmo not just another mmo, without going into details, we know that WoW have nowhere to go but down! LOTRO, and with all my respect to the (LoR franchise) is useless, WAR is well... just another ok MMO with nothing else but PvP 24/7... 

WoW and LoTRO have the most arrogant companies behid them, which makes any positive feedback from users quasi impossible, and even more, the user base is indeed very young, and therfore not to be taken seriously...

AoC in the other hand, have Funcom, which used to be called Failcom, simply because they failed to deliver a playable varsion of AoC at launch, so now, after they are done with the internal cleansing, Funcom have no other choice but make AoC an AAA game, deliver its promises and win AoC fans back.

I, myself was very sceptical a couple of months ago, but after the latest patches and the public announcements that Funcom made, it is clear from a neutral point of view that they are doing a good job so far both in adding new content and getting players feed back from the official forum.

As with all things Funcom " Let the Buyer Beware "

Fantastic post!  

   I just resubbed a few weeks ago as well, as well as 6 other of my friends, this game has improved huge and starting to have some awsome fun, the music,graphics,combat, quests, raids,pvp, its all i wanted in an mmo...thx Funcom, keep up the good work!!!

Originally posted by Elsabolts

As with all things Funcom " Let the Buyer Beware "

was that an auto-reply message? lol

ware of what? the dog

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AOC is a failure, it was supposed to be a hardcore pvp game, most pvpers ran avway and are now playing df (not for long) or waiting for aion. The raiders also ran away, so did the people that like crafting socialising and pve.

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Cut the propaganda and face it, this game had one of hte worst launches, the GMs are incompetent, the content is limited and the fighting system is considered as annoying by many.

Dont mistake neutral reasons with your delusions.

AoC reminds me alot of EQ 2 . It sounded awsome while waiting for it. but when you actually played it for the first time it sucked and you have to give it a couple years before it gets good. Only thing is  after a couple of years no one will give it a shot and the community is pretty much a ghost town.

Originally posted by beaverz

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AOC is a failure, it was supposed to be a hardcore pvp game, most pvpers ran avway and are now playing df (not for long) or waiting for aion. The raiders also ran away, so did the people that like crafting socialising and pve.

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Cut the propaganda and face it, this game had one of hte worst launches, the GMs are incompetent, the content is limited and the fighting system is considered as annoying by many.

Dont mistake neutral reasons with your delusions.

i gave you facts, and youre giving me personal feelings, guesses,  thoughts and insults all in abstract inconclusive sentenses.

thats not a fair trade...

Really, it solves nothing but turning another thread into a bitch post from both sides...I have yet to even find one post here that just discusses the game without someone else coming in and saying "The game sux" (and usually wriiten in bad english just like that)

Thanks

Originally posted by clearSam

 

gfx can NOT be enhanced.

False. See CoH, for example. Also, UO. Darkfall's graphics also are much better than the original designed graphics (back in 2004ish)

Originally posted by clearSam

Originally posted by beaverz

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AOC is a failure, it was supposed to be a hardcore pvp game, most pvpers ran avway and are now playing df (not for long) or waiting for aion. The raiders also ran away, so did the people that like crafting socialising and pve.

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Cut the propaganda and face it, this game had one of hte worst launches, the GMs are incompetent, the content is limited and the fighting system is considered as annoying by many.

Dont mistake neutral reasons with your delusions.

i gave you facts, and youre giving me personal feelings, guesses,  thoughts and insults all in abstract inconclusive sentenses.

thats not a fair trade...

 

Ok let me see if i can put up some things here or as you say facts.

No DX-10, No Barroom brawling, No 500 on 500 pvp, Servers merged, Public Stock plummets, Funcom staff laid-off, Senior Staff fired or quits, Im sure im missing other things but these come to mind.

The only thing I don't like too much about the game is how difficult it is to control your character with a mouse and it be a melee character.

Originally posted by nine56

Originally posted by clearSam

 

gfx can NOT be enhanced.

 

False. See CoH, for example. Also, UO. Darkfall's graphics also are much better than the original designed graphics (back in 2004ish)

did they put a new Engine at work like EvE online did? or they just changed the color palette?

Originally posted by Elsabolts

Originally posted by clearSam

Originally posted by beaverz

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AOC is a failure, it was supposed to be a hardcore pvp game, most pvpers ran avway and are now playing df (not for long) or waiting for aion. The raiders also ran away, so did the people that like crafting socialising and pve.

{ Mod Edit }

Cut the propaganda and face it, this game had one of hte worst launches, the GMs are incompetent, the content is limited and the fighting system is considered as annoying by many.

Dont mistake neutral reasons with your delusions.

i gave you facts, and youre giving me personal feelings, guesses,  thoughts and insults all in abstract inconclusive sentenses.

thats not a fair trade...

 

 

Ok let me see if i can put up some things here or as you say facts.

No DX-10, No Barroom brawling, No 500 on 500 pvp, Servers merged, Public Stock plummets, Funcom staff laid-off, Senior Staff fired or quits, Im sure im missing other things but these come to mind.

-No DX-10 : you mean that even with DX9, AoC is 10x better looking than the fantasy mmo you are playing? thats actually good news, it only means that when DX10 will be incorporated in AoC, it will look 20x better !

but if you meant that Funcom didnt deliver, then first: you didnt read my post cause i didnt claim otherwhise, second: what does that have to do with "the game sux" attitude?

--No Barroom brawling: i dont even know what that is

--No 500 on 500 pvp:

comparing to? and could be fixed eventually, and again: what does that have to do with "the game sux" attitude?

--Servers merged:  

what does that have to do with "the game sux" attitude?

--Funcom staff laid-off:

your kidding? arent you? what does that have to do with "the game sux" ?

--Senior Staff fired or quits:

so what? what does that have to do with "the game sux" ?

--Im sure im missing other things but these come to mind

you are not missing other things, you are missing the point !

 and im tired of copying and pasting the same answer over and over again.

I just have one question what do you have against LotrO? I mean really LotrO? :S Turbine is a great company in my experience far more reliable then Funcom. Back when I played regularly they always listened to the players so I'm not sure what you're talking about there.

It's great that you want to talk about the good things in Conan but you lose me as soon as you put down other games to do it.

Okay, then me have my point.

AoC was fun for about 10 hours. Then the novel combat system wore off, and I saw it was the same as any other MMORPG except it requiered a bit more attention and speed on the buttons and had some more mature content. Personally, the more mature wasn't really a bonus for me at all, I don't see the joy in making a female character and watching her breasts bounce around.

The music and graphics are very nice, although graphics engines CAN and HAVE been updated. May I point at these examples:

RuneScape

EVE Online

Funcom's own Anarchy Online has a planned graphics update

And if I'm correct, SWG had some graphics upgrades here and there, although not like EVE (which remodeled and retextured nearly everything) or RuneScape (which retextured everything and added a new higher poly model for up close faces).

Then, there's FunCom as a company, I really respise their business practices. Let me point to my most recent issue:

First let me say, I've had many times when I didn't have money on my card to pay for a game and the company just didn't charge it (Turbine, Blizzard, and CCP). But for AoC, I didn't have the money on my card and they charged it, overdrawing me and costing me 20 bucks (and I actually didn't even get that 30 days of play!). Then AFTER I canceled my subscription they charged me AGAIN (I still had no money) and cost me another 20 bucks, at least i got those 30 days. In all, they costs me 70 dollars and I got 30 days of play out of it, 30 days I'll never use since I already uninstalled the game prior to the first charge. This is following the terrible customer support I got.

Otherwise, AoC COULD have been a stellar title, but it lacks entertaining things to do. It has combat and the instances are nice, the quests have some fun stuff in them, but the game as a whole lacks important things like a decent crafting system, or something to do other than combat.

Nor do i see how this is 'Neutral' when you admit you dislike LOTRO, WoW and nearly every other MMO on the market. I see how WoW has nowhere left since they finished the Warcraft storyline and I don't see Blizzard putting much into creating much more orginal content. LOTRO on the other hand, hasn't even finished the main Storyline yet, (following The Fellowship) and afterwards there's a good bit of extended content to take on, saying it has 'nowhere to go' is blind. AoC has a lot of promise for new content too, especially with the amount of lore. LOTRO has just as much lore though, created throuhout JRR Tolkein's life and still through his son's, Christopher Tolkein, life. WoW does have some extended content through comics, and if Blizzard gets something going I could see it getting somewhere.

In the end, it's a good game, great for some people, for others it probably won't hold their attention just bashing heads. I would probably still play it if it weren't for FunCom's (FailCom if I may) horrible business practices.

Thank you,

 - Eric

servers merge might mean that less people are playing the game. might

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Originally posted by clearSam

 

• Sound and MusicIm not gonna even argue about those, cause the music of AoC is outstanding by general consensus. its one of the few games where you hesitate to turn off the music or even to lower it down... its original, straight to the point, full of context and REAL music not amateur engineered compositions.
  • GraphicsIf there is something that even flamers agree on, is that AoC have the best looking graphics ever to be found in an mmo up to date. some will say, oh but the gfx are not that important, and I say: YES, ITS FREAKING SOOO IMPORTANT, especially in a fantasy mmo where "fantasy" stuff is supposed to happen ! and where you, as a charcter, are supposed to explore and enjoy a world full of odd lore. so yes again: GRAPHYCS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.and as someone already said on another thread: in an MMO, content can be and supposed to be added regularly and eventually, but how affen do you see mmos remake their gfx engine?bugs can be fixed, content can be added, but gfx can NOT be enhanced. Lore
   I think the free world was in real need of something other than Elfs VS Humans VS Orcs VS Gobblins VS Dwarfs... so it was about time someone gets creative again.it is very clear that the game respects the geographical properties especial in human NPCs, names for instance are carefully chosen with respect to the culture. in most other games especially the ones directed for European/ NA audiences, those smaller details are left to developement hazard... i, personally dont like being taken for an idiot, so if an M rated game have a Chineese NPC called Yamato which is purely Japanese, ill be very pissed.... cause that totally kills the buzz. Potential

As a whole, AoC is the game with most potential on the market, while some people argue that other fantasy mmos have more potential, i see AoC as the only one that have a REAL potential of being an EPIC mmo not just another mmo, without going into details, we know that WoW have nowhere to go but down! LOTRO, and with all my respect to the (LoR franchise) is useless, WAR is well... just another ok MMO with nothing else but PvP 24/7... 
WoW and LoTRO have the most arrogant companies behid them, which makes any positive feedback from users quasi impossible, and even more, the user base is indeed very young, and therfore not to be taken seriously...
AoC in the other hand, have Funcom, which used to be called Failcom, simply because they failed to deliver a playable varsion of AoC at launch, so now, after they are done with the internal cleansing, Funcom have no other choice but make AoC an AAA game, deliver its promises and win AoC fans back.
I, myself was very sceptical a couple of months ago, but after the latest patches and the public announcements that Funcom made, it is clear from a neutral point of view that they are doing a good job so far both in adding new content and getting players feed back from the official forum.
 

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Very good post !
And yes i definitely agree with you.
Age of conan is a good game and its getting better, FC are on the right path now ;)

I definitely recommend this game to new players and ofc to old players ! :)

I agree with the OP about AoCs good points. However the game still needs another year because the content is still kinda small.

Graphics can BTW be improved but it is hard work that takes a long time.

That AoC misses some of the things that was supposed to be in since launch is off course annoying but not that of a big deal. As I see it is the big problems right now that we need a lot more content both high end and low end.

Low end content because repetition is boring and when you create an alt you will do almost the same quests as your old character, with the exception of lvl 20-30. That makes level up an alt boring compared to games like EQ2 and Wow where you can level up an alt without doing any quest your main did.

And high end content, there just ain't enough of it. Even with OT: Common it still needs more.

These things will be fixed eventually but I think AoC will need an expansion or even 2 to reach it's potential. The good news is that it is fun to play, particulary in groups so it will be intresting to see where the game are in 2 years.

Someone said that AoC was made for Hardcore PvP:ers but I kinda doubt that, there was speculations of that since launch but other games are doing that better. Average PvP is fun but not as good as in Guildwars at the moment. But the game is still evolving so we will see where it ends up, but I kinda doubt it will ever be truly "hardcore", players who wants that will probably be more happy about Darkfall.

And while I am at it, a screenshot of Ymirs pass, the first large outdoor zone added in the game:

Originally posted by beaverz

servers merge might mean that less people are playing the game. might

Or more people on fewer servers. But yes, there are fewer players now than just after launch, a lot fewer. On the other hand population seems to slowly rise again now.

  I agree that AoC is quite fun, and that has improved a LOT since their early problems, and too it's the most fun (for me, as of now) MMO on the market.  I agree it has a lot of potential.

  I don't agree in putting down other titles while givieng your opinion on how much you like AOC, however, the same dislike you find unbased and illogical towards AOC by some could be found in you by those that like those other games.

  i can recomend AoC to new players, and to old players that could try it again, but as most things the only way to know it's first hand experience, not on what it was 7 months ago, nor what it might become in 7 months from now, but right now, in order to know if you like it and enjoy it right now, or not.