Originally posted by Darth_Osor

I think they started working on the game Dec 2005, so if that is correct it's been in development for almost 3.5 years.  I some other statement recently I wish I could find again saying they were currently in alpha.  Personally I think June of this year is too soon, but I'd be thrilled if that was the case.  My guess would be closed beta not until later this year like Oct-Nov.

4 years for a big time company seems right so there will probly be talk about beta soon or at least bita sign up during june

  Thier stil in design, looking at thier press, they are still adding planets, and havent even started writing the story lines yet.   

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

  Thier stil in design, looking at thier press, they are still adding planets, and havent even started writing the story lines yet.   

This is the most ludicrous statement EVER.  Did you need read when they said they have hired over 20 writers to write story and content.  You are insane.  They fleshed out every quest like 2 years ago(exageration).  Read there damn developer blogs dumbass.

Originally posted by Knifo

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

  Thier stil in design, looking at thier press, they are still adding planets, and havent even started writing the story lines yet.   

 

This is the most ludicrous statement EVER.  Did you need read when they said they have hired over 20 writers to write story and content.  You are insane.  They fleshed out every quest like 2 years ago(exageration).  Read there damn developer blogs dumbass.

Yea, good stuff, I think I read some where that most of the writing process was done, they were finalizing and fine tuning the story lines. Those interviews where months ago already, can’t remember where the hell I saw that at. Any way, it'll be done when it's done people!! I'm about as excited as you can get from a SW fanboy so have patience young padawan.

Originally posted by Hauken

Originally posted by shukes33

Please god i hope not!

They have only been working on it for 5 mins as far as MMO's go, so hopefully it's way of. please dont speed a sub par game through. take your time and get it right for us fans!

 

Work started in nov. 2005. So they have been at it for some time. Usuall development time for a MMO is 3-5 years. So in fact they should be on the home stretch. But this MMO is gonna be huge, filled with a massive amount of content and polished. After all its Bioware.

I still stand by my guess on a May 2010 launch. So Beta period for a massive game like this would be like 10-12 months.......

Yeah even WAR had a pretty long beta and it won't have near the same amount of content KOTOR will. Though I don't think itll launch in as late at 2010 imo it won't be out any later then march. Also they might try to launch it around the same time as the new star wars series.

Originally posted by Knifo

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

  Thier stil in design, looking at thier press, they are still adding planets, and havent even started writing the story lines yet.   

 

This is the most ludicrous statement EVER.  Did you need read when they said they have hired over 20 writers to write story and content.  You are insane.  They fleshed out every quest like 2 years ago(exageration).  Read there damn developer blogs dumbass.

While your most likely right, you didn't need to be this harsh. The story would have been one of the first things they worked on. Story is what Bioware is known for and they have been working on it since day 1.

Originally posted by Arndur

Originally posted by Hauken

Originally posted by shukes33

Please god i hope not!

They have only been working on it for 5 mins as far as MMO's go, so hopefully it's way of. please dont speed a sub par game through. take your time and get it right for us fans!

 

Work started in nov. 2005. So they have been at it for some time. Usuall development time for a MMO is 3-5 years. So in fact they should be on the home stretch. But this MMO is gonna be huge, filled with a massive amount of content and polished. After all its Bioware.

I still stand by my guess on a May 2010 launch. So Beta period for a massive game like this would be like 10-12 months.......

 

Yeah even WAR had a pretty long beta and it won't have near the same amount of content KOTOR will. Though I don't think itll launch in as late at 2010 imo it won't be out any later then march. Also they might try to launch it around the same time as the new star wars series.

WAR had a long beta because they started beta too early and because of their "focused" beta testing they had to retest and retest things after putting in other things that copletely changed gameplay. So I really wouldn't use WAR as a standard.

Also the hero engine and datasteam(whatever its called :P)  tech they are using makes development faster and reduces the beta time since they can change and update in realtime and monitor things so close they can tell what color mouse you are using.

As for the new Star Wars live action series...Have they even started production on it? I only saw the expected release as 2009 which doesn't give me the impression they have solid release plans let alone are planning with Bioware/EA on a simulaneous launch.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/starwarstheoldrepublic/news.html?sid=6172473

from a game spot article in 2007.

"BioWare technical director Bill Dalton revealed that the MMORPG is currently slated to ship in 2009. "

The game was playable at that time (June 2007)

I think (hope) a June 2009 beta could be a possibility.

I guess we can see just how linear it's going to be. With a heavy story driven PVE game it can't be anything but linear.

Originally posted by Hauken

Usuall development time for a MMO is 3-5 years.

Try 5-7. Though of course it depends upon what exactly you consider the start of development. There's never really a clear line.

Originally posted by IAmMMO

I guess we can see just how linear it's going to be. With a heavy story driven PVE game it can't be anything but linear.

As long as its polished, I don't care how linear it is, I'm fed up with all these shitty MMOs coming out. I just want to play a decent MMO again.

Originally posted by Bigdavo

Originally posted by IAmMMO

I guess we can see just how linear it's going to be. With a heavy story driven PVE game it can't be anything but linear.

 

As long as its polished, I don't care how linear it is, I'm fed up with all these shitty MMOs coming out. I just want to play a decent MMO again.

I think I agree. There are too many new MMO's that are trying to do WAY too many things at once, be the first to do X feature, etc,  and it just usually ends up failing. I'd be happy with just a SOLID mmo right now.

Originally posted by IAmMMO

I guess we can see just how linear it's going to be. With a heavy story driven PVE game it can't be anything but linear.

Not necessarily.  I would consider LotRO to be a story driven PvE game and it doesn't seem all that linear to me.

This will be a great single player game, focused on pve, looking at the videos, they will be instancing the game big time so thier will not be problems with 20 people trying to complete the same mission.

When are people going to realize this isnt a mmo, its a single player RPG with some pvp. You will never see more that 20-50 people in one spot. High graphics, and from what Ive seen so far they will be instancing the high trafic areas just like they did in AOC, AOC isnt a massive multiplayer and this is definitly never going to be a massive multiplayer.

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

This will be a great single player game, focused on pve, looking at the videos, they will be instancing the game big time so thier will not be problems with 20 people trying to complete the same mission.

When are people going to realize this isnt a mmo, its a single player RPG with some pvp. You will never see more that 20-50 people in one spot. High graphics, and from what Ive seen so far they will be instancing the high trafic areas just like they did in AOC, AOC isnt a massive multiplayer and this is definitly never going to be a massive multiplayer.

Have you even read anything about this game, it seems not. I would also like to know, how did you get all this inside information about the specifics of this game, when Bioware hasn't said or really shown much of anything.

You really are showing the beginning signs of a troll, with the High graphics statement. One of the few bits of information we do have is that this game will be able to be ran on most systems, and not have over the top realistic graphics.

They also stated that this mmo will have everthing that all others have with the added factor of deep story. So go and do some research before making bold statements and personal predictions.

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

This will be a great single player game, focused on pve, looking at the videos, they will be instancing the game big time so thier will not be problems with 20 people trying to complete the same mission.

When are people going to realize this isnt a mmo, its a single player RPG with some pvp. You will never see more that 20-50 people in one spot. High graphics, and from what Ive seen so far they will be instancing the high trafic areas just like they did in AOC, AOC isnt a massive multiplayer and this is definitly never going to be a massive multiplayer.

Recent MMOs have me a bit jaded and I wouldn't be totally shocked if you were right, but to be honest, I would still buy this game even if it was a glorified single player RPG.  I explored every square inch of KOTOR and talked to every NPC looking for quests, listened to the dialog the first time through and just generally took my time, and I still beat the game in about 25 hours.  As long as the game is good, I'll still get my money's worth.

I'm not really sure what you base any of those assumptions on, though.  I'll wait until I either see for myself or read what beta testers are saying before I conclude it will be an AoCish tiny linear instanced world, unless Bioware confirms that they are absolutely making this a console port.

I have to LOL at the "high graphics" comment.  I haven't seen anything to make me think it will even be LotRO level graphics.

*screams like a teenage girl at a Justin Timberlake concert*

I cannot wait to try this game... I am going to be right up there in line at launch and plan to try everything to get a beta key.

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

This will be a great single player game, focused on pve, looking at the videos, they will be instancing the game big time so thier will not be problems with 20 people trying to complete the same mission.

When are people going to realize this isnt a mmo, its a single player RPG with some pvp. You will never see more that 20-50 people in one spot. High graphics, and from what Ive seen so far they will be instancing the high trafic areas just like they did in AOC, AOC isnt a massive multiplayer and this is definitly never going to be a massive multiplayer.

I like how you got all of that from a video of a jedi killing a nexu and walking in some caves for 7 seconds.

And your info comes from where? Bioware has stated this game will be an MMORPG, will be story driven focusing on personal choice in your own story and WILL HAVE PvP. NO where does it say it will be a PvE focused game Bioware picked this specific time period in star wars history for the sole reason of mayjor conflict in the galaxy.... to what? PVP but I guess you might have missed that in your vast amount of research(watching the two videos and making assumptions). Dont make blanket statements with little to no info backing it up.

Originally posted by Bigdavo

Originally posted by IAmMMO

I guess we can see just how linear it's going to be. With a heavy story driven PVE game it can't be anything but linear.

 

As long as its polished, I don't care how linear it is, I'm fed up with all these shitty MMOs coming out. I just want to play a decent MMO again.

Amen brother.  If Bioware let's me down I would be stunned.  They are just too good, too experienced, and too confident in their gaming style to put out crappy product.