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General Discussion  » if SWG:JTL (Starwars Galaxies: Jump To Lightspeed) could do it, why cant STO?

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  sabutai44

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Joined: 2/27/09
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Cookie-Cut Developers Deserve Failure!

 
3/03/09 2:00:03 PM#1

For anyone who has played SWG:JTL (jump to lightspeed) knows ships have interiors, and not only that but players can even man turrets and fire at enemy ships!

My point is, JTL was done years ago proving the technology is there and the capability is there! So why cant STO make ship interiors?

Personally, i think its due to RAD (Rapid Development) a company trying to get a product out the door as quickly as possible

 

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  Abrahmm

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3/03/09 2:02:49 PM#2

Because the game is being marketted towards the ultra casual crowd, and you can't allow casuals to interact with other people online, they just won't have it. They demand 100% solo gameplay 100% of the time!

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  aleos

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3/03/09 2:03:09 PM#3

pure and absolute lazyiness. fuck these dev fuckers.

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  SargentWild

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3/03/09 2:07:00 PM#4

I blame the fact that they are making STO for consoles, in addition to PC's.

 

 

  User Deleted
3/03/09 10:00:48 PM#5

They serve no purpose whatsoever except as fluff . Totally inconsequential to one's enjotment of the game play. Most fluff is always best left for content patches and expansions. I'm glad they made the decision.

 

Not only does it show that they want to get the core game play fully flushed out and working properly, but more and more it appears that making this decision is yet another one that seems to be weeding out the whiney and caustic payers the game won't need.

 

There's something SWG should have done

 

Great decision making Cryptic!

  Arndur

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3/03/09 11:09:39 PM#6
Originally posted by Abrahmm

Because the game is being marketted towards the ultra casual crowd, and you can't allow casuals to interact with other people online, they just won't have it. They demand 100% solo gameplay 100% of the time!


 

Or may because its fluff and like Hagon pointed out fluff is pointless and serves no need. People can interact before they enter space then talk through chat and stuff. What was the point of walking around on a ship? O look how I decorated my ship......

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  ktanner3

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3/04/09 9:20:18 AM#7

Why are you guys consistently trying to push features from the biggest failure in the history of all MMOs on every game?  You guys seem to make a habit of trolling the forums of every new game with a popular IP and demanding that they be turned into a virtual world where there is nothing to do but grind bols and admire the scenery. Face it, your precious game is dead. Even the makers of the next Star Wars game realize this and are going the complete opposite route that SWG took. Ask yourselves why no MMO maker wants to touch what you want with a ten foot pole and then get back to us. And no, because they are assholes won't cut it, a REAL business reason based on logic not emotion.In the meantime, the SWG Veteran whinage forum is that way------------------->

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  Karahandras

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3/05/09 10:26:06 AM#8
Originally posted by SargentWild

I blame the fact that they are making STO for consoles, in addition to PC's.

 

 

no it's being made for pc's with a possible console port in the future

  miagisan

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3/05/09 10:27:50 AM#9

your "fluff" made for some epic space battles in SWG with those multimanned ships.....so umm....nice try....

  Karahandras

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3/05/09 10:31:08 AM#10

first i think there is quite a difference in size between a four crew ship(jtl) and a two thousand crew ship(sto) in making ship interiors

second star trek ships don't have turrets

third have played swg jtl and the pob ships where pretty useless (apart from a few hardcore rpers) as you couldn't replace players with npc's when there weren't enough to fill the crew, d'ced or just plain buggered off mid combat

interiors would have been a nice add but i'm guessing just not practicle in sto

  ktanner3

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3/05/09 10:45:40 AM#11
Originally posted by miagisan

your "fluff" made for some epic space battles in SWG with those multimanned ships.....so umm....nice try....


 

Yes, and it's so popular that dead servers were recently consolidated, last count had the game barely hanging on with 10k subscribers and the game has never approached a million subscribers even during the so called "glory days."  Pretty sad for an IP as widely known as Star Wars.

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  miagisan

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3/05/09 10:47:34 AM#12
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by miagisan

your "fluff" made for some epic space battles in SWG with those multimanned ships.....so umm....nice try....


 

Yes, and it's so popular that dead servers were recently consolidated, last count had the game barely hanging on with 10k subscribers and the game has never approached a million subscribers even during the so called "glory days."  Pretty sad for an IP as widely known as Star Wars.

 

oh i am sorry you are confusing the GROUND GAME REVAMP with space combat...sorry, but people left cause the ground game and professions were destroyed, not because of space and multimanned ships...in fact i could probably argue Jump to Lightspeed is the only reason that game isnt a ghost town more so than it is.

  User Deleted
3/05/09 11:13:14 AM#13
Originally posted by miagisan

your "fluff" made for some epic space battles in SWG with those multimanned ships.....so umm....nice try....

I call total BS on that one. TOTAL BS.

 

You might remember you don't know who has played or is playing what when you post nonsense.

  miagisan

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3/05/09 11:14:19 AM#14
Originally posted by Hagonbok
Originally posted by miagisan

your "fluff" made for some epic space battles in SWG with those multimanned ships.....so umm....nice try....

I call total BS on that one. TOTAL BS.

 

You might remember you don't know who has played or is playing what when you post nonsense.

 

and i played for 5 years since closed beta....Valcyn was notorious for some really sweet space battles.

  User Deleted
3/05/09 11:19:27 AM#15
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by Hagonbok
Originally posted by miagisan

your "fluff" made for some epic space battles in SWG with those multimanned ships.....so umm....nice try....

I call total BS on that one. TOTAL BS.

 

You might remember you don't know who has played or is playing what when you post nonsense.

 

and i played for 5 years since closed beta....Valcyn was notorious for some really sweet space battles.

Sweet space battles between the single player ships sometimes. Multicrewed ships were totally useless.

 


 

  Kvasir_029

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3/05/09 11:20:50 AM#16

Aside from Hagon being correct about it being fluff, someone please correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't "Jump to Lightspeed" an EXPANSION? As in, not in the game at Launch?

 

Personally I'm glad Cryptic is spending more time on the important parts of the game, and bringing ship interiors later.

  Cladhopper

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Joined: 2/01/07
Posts: 30

3/05/09 11:22:25 AM#17

 People just dont read now a days do they... Or is it they can't... Or is it that they only read what they want..

STO will have interiors... Just not at launch.. Go read their website and what the devs said on why they aren't having it in launch. The develop time would have added a lot more time to the game and because the game has been in lingo for soooo long they want to get it out to the people. They will add it in a patch.

There are also 3 or 4 interviews.. One being on this site that talks about this.

Yep Jump To Light was an Expansion

  Starbuck1771

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3/05/09 11:33:23 AM#18
Originally posted by Hagonbok

They serve no purpose whatsoever except as fluff . Totally inconsequential to one's enjotment of the game play. Most fluff is always best left for content patches and expansions. I'm glad they made the decision.

 

Not only does it show that they want to get the core game play fully flushed out and working properly, but more and more it appears that making this decision is yet another one that seems to be weeding out the whiney and caustic payers the game won't need.

 

There's something SWG should have done

 

Great decision making Cryptic!


 

I disagree. If they want to make a Star Trek MMO they should do it right the first time. don't you ever get tired of that brown ring  Hagon?

  Abrahmm

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Posts: 2485

3/05/09 11:39:59 AM#19
Originally posted by Hagonbok

They serve no purpose whatsoever except as fluff . Totally inconsequential to one's enjotment of the game play. Most fluff is always best left for content patches and expansions. I'm glad they made the decision.

 

Not only does it show that they want to get the core game play fully flushed out and working properly, but more and more it appears that making this decision is yet another one that seems to be weeding out the whiney and caustic payers the game won't need.

 

There's something SWG should have done

 

Great decision making Cryptic!

FLUFF? Are you kidding me? Multi-manned ships are now fluff? Sorry, it's supposed to be an MMORPG not a single player game. The MMO audience is swirling faster and faster down the toilet.

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  Abrahmm

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3/05/09 11:41:15 AM#20
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by Hagonbok
Originally posted by miagisan

your "fluff" made for some epic space battles in SWG with those multimanned ships.....so umm....nice try....

I call total BS on that one. TOTAL BS.

 

You might remember you don't know who has played or is playing what when you post nonsense.

 

and i played for 5 years since closed beta....Valcyn was notorious for some really sweet space battles.

These people aren't worth arguing with Miagisan as they obviously have no clue.

I still remember some good times flying my Y-Wing with my cousin manning the turret for me, guarding me while I mined or wreaking havoc in a dogfight. Good times these lubbers don't even realize are possible.

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