I just activated my AoC account. I played for 6 weeks during release and quit because of state of the game.

Im so glad i gave it another try!

+Good client/game performance now

+ More content (zones/dungeons/quests etc.)

+ More overall polish

I still dont like the failcom lies but i dont give a sh*t even if it´s a crap company as long as i´m having fun playing.

You too should give it a try if you´re looking for an MMO to play!

I understand how you must be experiencing a much better game than the one you left. Craig has been really busy cleaning up after Gaute, and a lot of improvements have been made during Craigs reign.

Theninjaboy posted a very well written summary that you might find interesting: 

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2694422#2694422

Originally posted by InjaSam

I just activated my AoC account. I played for 6 weeks during release and quit because of state of the game.

Im so glad i gave it another try!

+Good client/game performance now

+ More content (zones/dungeons/quests etc.)

+ More overall polish

I still dont like the failcom lies but i dont give a sh*t even if it´s a crap company as long as i´m having fun playing.

You too should give it a try if you´re looking for an MMO to play!

I agree. I still have issues with how Funcom is doing stuff, but it has gotten better. Today for example, all the little niggles with the last patch are being fixed, so they are trying to stay on top of this stuff.

This type of commitment will definitely pay off in the long run.

Originally posted by openedge1

Originally posted by InjaSam

I just activated my AoC account. I played for 6 weeks during release and quit because of state of the game.

Im so glad i gave it another try!

+Good client/game performance now

+ More content (zones/dungeons/quests etc.)

+ More overall polish

I still dont like the failcom lies but i dont give a sh*t even if it´s a crap company as long as i´m having fun playing.

You too should give it a try if you´re looking for an MMO to play!

I agree. I still have issues with how Funcom is doing stuff, but it has gotten better. Today for example, all the little niggles with the last patch are being fixed, so they are trying to stay on top of this stuff.

This type of commitment will definitely pay off in the long run.

Totally agree, statements like these are more common on the boards now. So long as FC keep working at it and I can see and experience the change then they have my money still.

Originally posted by Deadman87

I understand how you must be experiencing a much better game than the one you left. Craig has been really busy cleaning up after Gaute, and a lot of improvements have been made during Craigs reign.

 

Theninjaboy posted a very well written summary that you might find interesting: 

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2694422#2694422

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2694422#2694422

Hyperlinked it for you

Originally posted by Thornrage

Originally posted by Deadman87

I understand how you must be experiencing a much better game than the one you left. Craig has been really busy cleaning up after Gaute, and a lot of improvements have been made during Craigs reign.

 

Theninjaboy posted a very well written summary that you might find interesting: 

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2694422#2694422

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2694422#2694422

 

Hyperlinked it for you

 

Thx=)

I'm glad people are giving the gamea second chance.

I started playing about 2 months ago, and as a completly new player (and someone that doesn't listen to a single poster on these forums about what is "good" or "bad") I came in w/ a completely clean opinion.

My biggest question was "What are people talking about?" 

This is a clean, polished, immersive, fun and engaging game. It's gorgeious (I play at max) and I've found no negatives with the game.

I can understand people's mistrust w/ FC b/c of the launch problems and features not in, but people that post rediculous comments like the game is "broke" or "unfinished" are just down right stupid or ignorant. The game may not be what they're looking for specifically, but it's far from broken or imcomplete.

I'm totally loving it now, and think people that aren't easily jaded or dismissive will love the way the game is now. Those who have never tried it, will have an even greater experience, b/c the poor launch isn't soemthing they'll have to compare too.

Originally posted by Jpizzle

I'm glad people are giving the gamea second chance.

I started playing about 2 months ago, and as a completly new player (and someone that doesn't listen to a single poster on these forums about what is "good" or "bad") I came in w/ a completely clean opinion.

My biggest question was "What are people talking about?"

The answer is simple: people like different things.

85-90% of players didn't like AoC and they quit duting the first couple of months.

9-14% like AoC and still play it.

1% absolutely love AoC and come here on these forums daily to defend it.

I guess you are in that 1%?

If Funcom want's to prove their MMO is good, they need to offer a free 14 day trial or something.

I would be open to try it out if there was a free trial.

I agree the game is getting better, but for what I ve seen in game, most of the community will move to Darkfall, so it might be a tiny bit too late for Funcom.

AoC has to make bold decisions in order to cut it.
At the moment is a little bit carebearish for a PvP game, but not enough depth for a PvE game.
I believe the times of "let's make everyone happy" are gone.
I think we are approaching the diversification era, and AoC needs to decide which side it wants to be.

 It's very doubtful that most of the current AoC population would move to Darfall, not for any other reason than full loot not being popular for real among the AoC community, and people there having a mixed appeal for pvP and PvE.

  Lot of people are also spoiled by the graphics and find hard to move back form the -more dynamic- melee combat system.

  DF has it's ouwn particular player base appeal, and it don't greatly overlap those of most other games.

Just subbed last week..got a great deal on box..and said "what the hell". I love this game.  I like it more once I got off  of Tortage. The graphics are smooth and beautiful. Most of the quests are structured well and interesting. I experience few bugs and glitches. The fighting animations are well done..i wasn't impressed at first..but when my ignorance subsided, and i learned how the combos work vs. shields ...i grew to really enjoy combat .When i ask  questions I receive kind and patient advice. Sure...there can sometimes be a few immature tools chatting away  like 12 year old newly hormonal jackasses...or they may actually be 12yr old newly hormonal jackasses..idk...but for the most part everyone is cool. I was very surprised...given the lashing this game receives on a daily basis. I highly recommend this game. Yeah...I guess I could have waited for a trial..I received a buddy key but it was for EU servers...too much of a PITA. Just look at amazon.com tho...you can buy the boxed game for 7 bucks plus shipping...around $10.  For this small fee you can try it for 30 days(free 1st month) then cancel before re-sub. While the various amazon store's supplies last...you really don't need a trial..unless you're an absolute cheap-ass.

Originally posted by ste2000

I agree the game is getting better, but for what I ve seen in game, most of the community will move to Darkfall, so it might be a tiny bit too late for Funcom.

AoC has to make bold decisions in order to cut it.
At the moment is a little bit carebearish for a PvP game, but not enough depth for a PvE game.
I believe the times of "let's make everyone happy" are gone.
I think we are approaching the diversification era, and AoC needs to decide which side it wants to be.

Actually once DF sort out shit together and allow people to buy and play the game we will see the raise of population in AoC.

There is quite a lot of people that left AoC in early days and said fuck it Iam waiting for DF now and the main reason was players want different combat system.

As everyone saw DF have some huge issues were do you think all those "diff combat" fans go.

Originally posted by IKShadow

Originally posted by ste2000

I agree the game is getting better, but for what I ve seen in game, most of the community will move to Darkfall, so it might be a tiny bit too late for Funcom.

AoC has to make bold decisions in order to cut it.
At the moment is a little bit carebearish for a PvP game, but not enough depth for a PvE game.
I believe the times of "let's make everyone happy" are gone.
I think we are approaching the diversification era, and AoC needs to decide which side it wants to be.

 

Actually once DF sort out shit together and allow people to buy and play the game we will see the raise of population in AoC.

There is quite a lot of people that left AoC in early days and said fuck it Iam waiting for DF now and the main reason was players want different combat system.

As everyone saw DF have some huge issues were do you think all those "diff combat" fans go.

 

Well I for once just canceled AoC subscription to play DF, so I contraddict your theory.
As I said, at the moment AoC is ok and I might come back, but for me is a bit too carebear, and by playing 3 months after release and 2 months recently I had the impression a big chunk of the community, particularly big guilds, were looking for something a bit more extreme.

Time will tell though.

Originally posted by ste2000

Originally posted by IKShadow

Originally posted by ste2000

I agree the game is getting better, but for what I ve seen in game, most of the community will move to Darkfall, so it might be a tiny bit too late for Funcom.

AoC has to make bold decisions in order to cut it.
At the moment is a little bit carebearish for a PvP game, but not enough depth for a PvE game.
I believe the times of "let's make everyone happy" are gone.
I think we are approaching the diversification era, and AoC needs to decide which side it wants to be.

 

Actually once DF sort out shit together and allow people to buy and play the game we will see the raise of population in AoC.

There is quite a lot of people that left AoC in early days and said fuck it Iam waiting for DF now and the main reason was players want different combat system.

As everyone saw DF have some huge issues were do you think all those "diff combat" fans go.

 

 

Well I for once just canceled AoC subscription to play DF, so I contraddict your theory.
As I said, at the moment AoC is ok and I might come back, but for me is a bit too carebear, and by playing 3 months after release and 2 months recently I had the impression a big chunk of the community, particularly big guilds, were looking for something a bit more extreme.

Time will tell though.

Hey Ste,

From my perception in Sept, we went through this already with WAR, aparently all the AoC guilds went there and left. But the game was still around. WAR had a load more hype in the PVP area. To be honest the catchment area for DF is small. A lot of guys I play AoC with were in DF beta with me, although not the worst game ever I think it's pull will be just as short lived as WAR's. Yet during all this time AoC was busy beavering away correcting things and is on the cusp of implementing some significant changes. It has the benefit of time on its side where as DF is just starting off with many issues, missing content and so on (to be expected, not in a bad way). If there will be any pull it will be summer time ish.

I think that hardcore extreme element is small in the guilds that play AoC. Nothing wrong with trying DF out, but they will be back, just like after WAR.

Originally posted by ste2000

Originally posted by IKShadow

Originally posted by ste2000

I agree the game is getting better, but for what I ve seen in game, most of the community will move to Darkfall, so it might be a tiny bit too late for Funcom.

AoC has to make bold decisions in order to cut it.
At the moment is a little bit carebearish for a PvP game, but not enough depth for a PvE game.
I believe the times of "let's make everyone happy" are gone.
I think we are approaching the diversification era, and AoC needs to decide which side it wants to be.

 

Actually once DF sort out shit together and allow people to buy and play the game we will see the raise of population in AoC.

There is quite a lot of people that left AoC in early days and said fuck it Iam waiting for DF now and the main reason was players want different combat system.

As everyone saw DF have some huge issues were do you think all those "diff combat" fans go.

 

 

Well I for once just canceled AoC subscription to play DF, so I contraddict your theory.
As I said, at the moment AoC is ok and I might come back, but for me is a bit too carebear, and by playing 3 months after release and 2 months recently I had the impression a big chunk of the community, particularly big guilds, were looking for something a bit more extreme.

Time will tell though.

Like I said see you back in AoC after the DF free month

p.s. Hopefully AoC will go in more extreme direction. They said pvp resources drops/loot are just the begining to test the system and more items will be marked as lootable in PvP.

Originally posted by Miklos

If Funcom want's to prove their MMO is good, they need to offer a free 14 day trial or something.

I would be open to try it out if there was a free trial.

I think they are making a mistake if they wait for DX-10 to be ready. Itemization I could see waiting on but not DX10. They need to get the free offers out there asap once they patch itemization and its functioning as intended.

I would start a win-back campaign with the itemization patch (after any issues with it get ironed out), followed by a new buddy keys offer (maybe among those that have had an account open from start, to give them some thank you for your support) to try and capitalize on the massive database of gameplayers the game has, and then trials.

Originally posted by ste2000 

 

Well I for once just canceled AoC subscription to play DF, so I contraddict your theory.
As I said, at the moment AoC is ok and I might come back, but for me is a bit too carebear, and by playing 3 months after release and 2 months recently I had the impression a big chunk of the community, particularly big guilds, were looking for something a bit more extreme.

Time will tell though.

I think AoC will lose a lot of players to DF. They both attract hardcore pvp gamers but DF is much more hardcore.

One third of my AoC guild went to DF.

Originally posted by ste2000

I agree the game is getting better, but for what I ve seen in game, most of the community will move to Darkfall, so it might be a tiny bit too late for Funcom.

AoC has to make bold decisions in order to cut it.
At the moment is a little bit carebearish for a PvP game, but not enough depth for a PvE game.
I believe the times of "let's make everyone happy" are gone.
I think we are approaching the diversification era, and AoC needs to decide which side it wants to be.

A small company like Aventurine can get away with making a niche PvP game.  I'm not knocking it when I call it niche.  I believe even the devs have acknowledged they are appealing to a niche.

DF would be a huge success with a sustained sub base of 50k based on development cost, but a big company that is going to spend 50 mil+ cannot afford to only appeal to a niche.  Would AoC survive if they eliminated PvE servers and made it purely PvP?  I doubt it.