Originally posted by Kasmos

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by Kasmos

Originally posted by Harafnir

 And people should have the right, on an MMO site to talk about the CONS fo a game as well not 100% "It's GLORIOUS!!"

 

There's a difference between "talking about the cons" and blatantly lying and spewing rubbish about a game. Unfortunately, most of the "negative" posts on this forum are the latter, and come from people who have more then likely never tried the game.

Negative criticism is welcome in my mind, I'm sure everyone doesn't think Darkfall is as great or as fun as I currently do. But blatant, retarded trolling, which comprises most of the posts and threads on this forum, is ridiculously stupid and the primary reason why I have stopped writing about my in-game experiences and my reviews of aspects of the game on this site.

 

It's a shame really, but I'm not the one losing out on anything, I have five hours of classes to get through, no work, and then it's back to enjoying the hell out of Agon.

 

As much as I agree with this, I would like to point out it goes both ways. There are fans that make good points to why they like it, then there are those that basically say you re an idiot if you don t like the game becuase of whatever reason. I truly love the ones indirectly trying to convince people to like a game they obviously don t. What alot of people have been saying as rubbish, although in a harsh manner are true. Been there, seen it. The difference between me and a dillusional fanbois is I can see the faults not cover them up and say oh thats a good thing. Anyways, if DFO fixes alot of things I one day will try it but it has a very long way to go before then. I tend to think a year in advance before I buy a MMO, this game had very little lasting power after the first 1000 ganks and being ganked, so it needs more stuff to do before I will join it.

 

I've already stated Darkfall needs some things fixed. For starters, the bugged mobs needs to be fixed. Hackers need to be dealt with quickly (although I've been lucky enough not to run into one myself). Although the directional and distance oriented sound is phenomenal, I wish they'd get a professional sound guy to do them. Animations aren't game breaking, but could use a little bit of work.

Besides that, I have really nothing to complain about. Love all the aspects of the game, even though I've barely scratched the surface. You should hear my guild during PvP raids in Vent. People are like, "Holy shit this is amazing" and "I can't believe that just happened!" and "That was like Atilla the Hun shit!"

We're all having a blast (have of them don't even sleep anymore it seems like haha).

Give it 2 more weeks.

Originally posted by Zolden

I've played the many great startup mmo's that created all of this on day one and onward until they were ruined. I dropped out of mmo news due to time constraints, but recently wanted to recall my past and get into a 'different' kind of mmo.

The past few weeks I decided to check out Darkfall and find some information on it. Unfortunately I decided to check mmorpg's forums for views and writeups on the game's progress over the past few weeks. There has been 90% retardation on these forums and 10% information. 

It is clear what has happened in the mmo industry for fans: there are the diluted and the hopeful. There are those of us who remember back when EQ1 released and it was the most magnificent, sophisticated incredible game on the market, and so forth with successive MMO's. It seems that over time and with the release of the cookie cutter mmo template there have been only two outlooks, and this is where you all are crying fanboi or troll. When people say "everquest" (mind you in a negative manner) for graphics and gameplay I think that the game is more appealing. 

Is it so wrong to be hopeful for the idea behind Darkfall? I feel that 75% of the people on this forum have been the diluted. They probably don't understand the idea behind something different and completely new. Everquest, AC, DAoC were all run stupidly at their beginning, and Everquest began the graphical mmorpg genre. Even if the launch is shit, even if the CS is oblivious, and even if it seems like the future is dismal, there is potential. The diluted have become used to the shit such as WoW and other mmos, as long as they stable they are happy. I doubt 80% of the posters here remember MUDS or the horrible service from the very first mmo's on release, and there was something to that. Even if the service is shit at the beginning it means nothing towards the final game. 

I look forward to news on Darkfall in six months if I don't have the time to actually buy it and play (I know, I can't buy it right now because it's too hardcore). If it survives the "honeymoon" phase it could last as long as Shadowbane has, which is still going - anyone remember that release and initial gameplay? 

 

 

I know that my post is too long for most of the forumgoers intellect on this forum, so I'll say this in short: you are all retarded if you can't relax, sit back and watch and read news on the game. Take a chance and have some hope, and perhaps the game will become as addicting and fun as being an idiot on these forums is to you. It certainly seems like 90% of the people, haters or fans, would be happy killing everyone and looting their shit.

 

LOL troll

 

you forgot the people that over-generalize and believe they're better than everyone else.  these people tend to group everyone else into two groups - trolls and fanbois; they also tend to miss the many, many valid posts where people support, disapprove of, or even *gasp* have both positive AND negative points about a game.  said over-generalizers normally miss these postings because of their position atop a high-horse.  rather than actually contribute to conversations, they simply over-generalize (wrongly) and act like they're better than everyone else (again wrongly so).

all positive posts are not fanboi.

all negative posts are not troll.

idiots are unable to distinguish and therefore freak out and QQ all over themselves.  this does not justifiy over generalization, ESPECIALLY about a game that has NO information to leak. 

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by Kasmos

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by Kasmos

Originally posted by Harafnir

 And people should have the right, on an MMO site to talk about the CONS fo a game as well not 100% "It's GLORIOUS!!"

 

There's a difference between "talking about the cons" and blatantly lying and spewing rubbish about a game. Unfortunately, most of the "negative" posts on this forum are the latter, and come from people who have more then likely never tried the game.

Negative criticism is welcome in my mind, I'm sure everyone doesn't think Darkfall is as great or as fun as I currently do. But blatant, retarded trolling, which comprises most of the posts and threads on this forum, is ridiculously stupid and the primary reason why I have stopped writing about my in-game experiences and my reviews of aspects of the game on this site.

 

It's a shame really, but I'm not the one losing out on anything, I have five hours of classes to get through, no work, and then it's back to enjoying the hell out of Agon.

 

As much as I agree with this, I would like to point out it goes both ways. There are fans that make good points to why they like it, then there are those that basically say you re an idiot if you don t like the game becuase of whatever reason. I truly love the ones indirectly trying to convince people to like a game they obviously don t. What alot of people have been saying as rubbish, although in a harsh manner are true. Been there, seen it. The difference between me and a dillusional fanbois is I can see the faults not cover them up and say oh thats a good thing. Anyways, if DFO fixes alot of things I one day will try it but it has a very long way to go before then. I tend to think a year in advance before I buy a MMO, this game had very little lasting power after the first 1000 ganks and being ganked, so it needs more stuff to do before I will join it.

 

I've already stated Darkfall needs some things fixed. For starters, the bugged mobs needs to be fixed. Hackers need to be dealt with quickly (although I've been lucky enough not to run into one myself). Although the directional and distance oriented sound is phenomenal, I wish they'd get a professional sound guy to do them. Animations aren't game breaking, but could use a little bit of work.

Besides that, I have really nothing to complain about. Love all the aspects of the game, even though I've barely scratched the surface. You should hear my guild during PvP raids in Vent. People are like, "Holy shit this is amazing" and "I can't believe that just happened!" and "That was like Atilla the Hun shit!"

We're all having a blast (have of them don't even sleep anymore it seems like haha).

 

Give it 2 more weeks.

I have been playing for well over a month and still have these times every single time I am on.

Originally posted by Zolden

Originally posted by rhinok

Originally posted by Zolden

I know that my post is too long for most of the forumgoers intellect on this forum, so I'll say this in short: you are all retarded

I believe the word you're looking for is "deluded".  Nice try, though.

~Ripper

 

Incorrect. They have become diluted by the stale cash-in template mmo's that have become commonplace since EQ's success. There is a difference between the definition of deluded, i.e. delusions of grandeur and being "diluted" i.e. taking the basis of something such as ink and adding too much water.

Are you listening yet?

wow, the arrogance and self-importance just doesn't stop.  too bad the initial post and this explanation... really don't make any sense.

could you reform your opinions in a fashion that intelligent people can understand them?  thanks.

Originally posted by damian7

 

wow, the arrogance and self-importance just doesn't stop.  too bad the initial post and this explanation... really don't make any sense.

could you reform your opinions in a fashion that intelligent people can understand them?  thanks.

How ironic.

Originally posted by jonyak

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by Kasmos

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by Kasmos

Originally posted by Harafnir

 And people should have the right, on an MMO site to talk about the CONS fo a game as well not 100% "It's GLORIOUS!!"

 

There's a difference between "talking about the cons" and blatantly lying and spewing rubbish about a game. Unfortunately, most of the "negative" posts on this forum are the latter, and come from people who have more then likely never tried the game.

Negative criticism is welcome in my mind, I'm sure everyone doesn't think Darkfall is as great or as fun as I currently do. But blatant, retarded trolling, which comprises most of the posts and threads on this forum, is ridiculously stupid and the primary reason why I have stopped writing about my in-game experiences and my reviews of aspects of the game on this site.

 

It's a shame really, but I'm not the one losing out on anything, I have five hours of classes to get through, no work, and then it's back to enjoying the hell out of Agon.

 

As much as I agree with this, I would like to point out it goes both ways. There are fans that make good points to why they like it, then there are those that basically say you re an idiot if you don t like the game becuase of whatever reason. I truly love the ones indirectly trying to convince people to like a game they obviously don t. What alot of people have been saying as rubbish, although in a harsh manner are true. Been there, seen it. The difference between me and a dillusional fanbois is I can see the faults not cover them up and say oh thats a good thing. Anyways, if DFO fixes alot of things I one day will try it but it has a very long way to go before then. I tend to think a year in advance before I buy a MMO, this game had very little lasting power after the first 1000 ganks and being ganked, so it needs more stuff to do before I will join it.

 

I've already stated Darkfall needs some things fixed. For starters, the bugged mobs needs to be fixed. Hackers need to be dealt with quickly (although I've been lucky enough not to run into one myself). Although the directional and distance oriented sound is phenomenal, I wish they'd get a professional sound guy to do them. Animations aren't game breaking, but could use a little bit of work.

Besides that, I have really nothing to complain about. Love all the aspects of the game, even though I've barely scratched the surface. You should hear my guild during PvP raids in Vent. People are like, "Holy shit this is amazing" and "I can't believe that just happened!" and "That was like Atilla the Hun shit!"

We're all having a blast (have of them don't even sleep anymore it seems like haha).

 

Give it 2 more weeks.

 

I have been playing for well over a month and still have these times every single time I am on.

Yep this doesn t suprise me. You re one of those i mentioned above. Played it much longer, not to all, but alot it will get boring. Outside guilds and cities the game has zero direction.
 

Originally posted by Gorilla

Originally posted by altairzq

 

But, I don't remember somone like Tasos, and I don't remember a legion of rabid irrational fanatics, and I do remember a game with:

 

 

You already forgot Brad Mc Grind aka the Jolly Green Ranger? Inventor of camping (for days) for loot and grind. The guy that invented hardcore and mindless repetition of tasks. He single handly put the genre back 10 years before it had even taken off.  EQ did have some charm though.

qft

Originally posted by jonyak

Originally posted by damian7

 

wow, the arrogance and self-importance just doesn't stop.  too bad the initial post and this explanation... really don't make any sense.

could you reform your opinions in a fashion that intelligent people can understand them?  thanks.

 

How ironic.

as ironic as a fanboi, who instead of playing a brand new game, constantly trolls forums, seeking to convince everyone that a game he doesn't play, is the best game out there?

ouch.

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by jonyak

Originally posted by damian7

 

wow, the arrogance and self-importance just doesn't stop.  too bad the initial post and this explanation... really don't make any sense.

could you reform your opinions in a fashion that intelligent people can understand them?  thanks.

 

How ironic.

 

as ironic as a fanboi, who instead of playing a brand new game, constantly trolls forums, seeking to convince everyone that a game he doesn't play, is the best game out there?

 

ouch.

who would that be?

I have been in beta and am playing the game. I post when I am at work and play when I am at home.

I am not trying to convince anyone to play the game. in fact I would love if you all didn't frankly.

You will hate it.

Originally posted by Zolden

I know that my post is too long for most of the forumgoers intellect on this forum, so I'll say this in short: you are all retarded if you can't relax, sit back and watch and read news on the game.

/signed

No doubt, my friend. Seems like [many] people are trying to promote the ruin a game that has some interesting potential. If the game ruins itself, fine, but let's not try to make it worse.

Originally posted by damian7

there's a difference between "talking about the pros" and blatantly lying and spewing rubbish about a game.  unfortunately, most of the "positivt" posts on this forum have been the latter & come from people who obviously have never tried the game.

positive critiques are welcome (not just in my mind, but on this forum), i'm sure everyone doesn't think darkfall is a stinking pile of doodoo.  but blatant, retarded trolling, which comprises a great deal of fanboi "poastings" and threads on this forum, is ridiculously stupid and the primary reason i have stopped reading silly stories (the 10 of us jumped these 2 guys - it was glorious!  then we all lagged out), and superfluous reviews (it's a great game, can't really tell you any specifics, but o..m...g... the shadows!!!! great game, i love the shadows... great game, nuff said).

 

it's a shame really, but i'm not the one losing out on anything, i'm not paying to play a beta.  nor am i supporting the pay-to-play beta model, thereby encouraging future games to be released in the same sad condition and costing ME money to do THEIR testing.

so wait are you playing the game?

Originally posted by Zolden

[..]

I look forward to news on Darkfall in six months if I don't have the time to actually buy it and play (I know, I can't buy it right now because it's too hardcore). If it survives the "honeymoon" phase it could last as long as Shadowbane has, which is still going - anyone remember that release and initial gameplay? 

[..]

If this is the "moneymoon" period for DF right now ... I cannot wait until we start arguing over who has the dog.

Most people are here to enjoy the debacle of this launch and observe the desperation of the elitist types as their pet company fails to produce anything solid in terms of product or gameplay. AV made it this way; welcome to DF MMORPG forums. How far are you willing to be pushed to become hardcore ? ;)

Also insulting the forum populace intelligence level is only going to make everyone flame you, which kind of drives the popcorn cycle. 

Originally posted by damian7

there's a difference between "talking about the pros" and blatantly lying and spewing rubbish about a game.  unfortunately, most of the "positivt" posts on this forum have been the latter & come from people who obviously have never tried the game.

positive critiques are welcome (not just in my mind, but on this forum), i'm sure everyone doesn't think darkfall is a stinking pile of doodoo.  but blatant, retarded trolling, which comprises a great deal of fanboi "poastings" and threads on this forum, is ridiculously stupid and the primary reason i have stopped reading silly stories (the 10 of us jumped these 2 guys - it was glorious!  then we all lagged out), and superfluous reviews (it's a great game, can't really tell you any specifics, but o..m...g... the shadows!!!! great game, i love the shadows... great game, nuff said).

 

it's a shame really, but i'm not the one losing out on anything, i'm not paying to play a beta.  nor am i supporting the pay-to-play beta model, thereby encouraging future games to be released in the same sad condition and costing ME money to do THEIR testing.

You are the most obvious troll ever. Just because I post positively about the game in a constructive, well thought out manner I have never tried the game? Lol

And if you actually read my posts or others on here talking about the game, we do go into specifics. Too bad you're too busy ignoring all that and trolling.

Have fun sitting on the outside though looking in, I'm the guy in Agon laughing at you.

Originally posted by Kasmos

 

You are the most obvious troll ever. Just because I post positively about the game in a constructive, well thought out manner I have never tried the game? Lol

And if you actually read my posts or others on here talking about the game, we do go into specifics. Too bad you're too busy ignoring all that and trolling.

Have fun sitting on the outside though looking in, I'm the guy in Agon laughing at you.

Really? You really think that? Let us review what you said in OP.

We'll start with this: "few weeks I decided to check out Darkfall" - Yeah, some people been following it for 7 years. If you've been following it for a couple weeks, just take note you have barely been following the game.

Next come the insults:

"There has been 90% retardation on these forums and 10% information. "

"there are the diluted and the hopeful. " - which we can agree you don't know how to apply diluted to a sentence properly

"They probably don't understand the idea behind something different and completely new" - Yes, Kasmos, only YOU could possibly understand the idea of something new in your limited time following this game. Right...

Alright, so we've pointed how you are less informed about this game than most, you are obviously a troll for repeatly only attacking MMO players as a whole, and now let's move to your broken logic.

"become used to the shit such as WoW and other mmos" - People have been used to quality and polish? Wow, what is wrong with the world!? Why don't they still make Model T cars that only go 30MPH and break down every 5 miles? I miss those days. Are you serious? You are trying to justify a game being bad because they were 10 years ago when they first started? Sorry, people expect a little quality now.

"If it survives the "honeymoon" phase it could last as long as Shadowbane has, which is still going' - This is funny. This game died a LONG time ago. It's only still going because it is F2P. If this is your logic that DF will succeed, then good luck with that.

Originally posted by Zolden

Originally posted by rhinok

Originally posted by Zolden

I know that my post is too long for most of the forumgoers intellect on this forum, so I'll say this in short: you are all retarded

I believe the word you're looking for is "deluded".  Nice try, though.

~Ripper

 

Incorrect. They have become diluted by the stale cash-in template mmo's that have become commonplace since EQ's success. There is a difference between the definition of deluded, i.e. delusions of grandeur and being "diluted" i.e. taking the basis of something such as ink and adding too much water.

Are you listening yet?