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Originally posted by morpin Oke let me explain in detail: 1) NPC's fading away, like you are in the middle of a parly (diplomacy) and suddenly a player comes by that is one stage further and suddenly the NPC despawns and you are faced with a 10 minute respawn timer till that NPC spawns again. Then you are in the middle of a parly again ....whopa... another player comes by and the NPC suddenly despawns AGAIN. That kind of shit... that they never bothered to fix! Same in the temple (last quest on diplomacy) when I need to parly with an NPC and constantly when Im in the middle of it, some jacko jumps down and spawns mobs who attack me and break off the parly.... over and over and over and over, then your NPC guards die... you die and respawn a mile away. Rent a new fly mount... fly back to Temple and the NPC is suddenly despawned. So now you need to abandon the quest. Fly all the way back to pick up the quest again. Fly back to the temple an d pray to the gods that not some other jacko jumps down on the platform while you are in the middle of a parly and spawns mobs again.
2) Or how about this: Go for a swim in the swamps when killing mobs there for a quest and suddenly you end up under the world. Happened to my gf several times, me and several others I've met on the Isle of Dawn. 3) Crafting clothes that don't align with your avatar so it looks like your hands are chopped off and floating in mid air (currently the case on my gf's character). If you craft alot it's just plain annoying to look at. 4) On the mainland picking up the fishing quest, and having to relog because the merchant doesnt want to sell you anything. Then you have to cancel each following sequence and re-accepting it to complete the questchain. Something they never bothered to fix. 5) Rental flying mounts. Half the time when you are in the air and want to land back on the ground you are hitting some invisible barrier that prevents you from landing. You are forced to wait for the timer to run out and then try to despawn the mount. Usually needs a relog. 6) A lot of diplomacy and crafting outfits are clipping the crap out of your character. They never bothered to fix that. (luckily with adventuring armor it's not that bad) 7) Fishing is just plain bugged and extremely tedious. Nothing further to add to that. 8) Loot roll system is still not been optimised. Need/Roll is extremely slow and tedious. The whole group looting system is just plain tedious. Something WoW, EQ2, LOTRO for example have done so much better. Much faster, more fluid. 9) Lot of performance issues have returned! A year ago I was really impressed in how the performance and chunking times in the game had been improved. Now with the latest update and couple patches they have re-introduced a lot of the old performance issues again!! These are just a couple things I ran into within a couple days. It's not that the game isn't fun or completely broken. No one is saying that! The problem is, that after 2 years, the game still feels chunky and sluggish. You would expect that after 2 whole years they managed to get the game in a more polished state by now! When I play WoW, EQ2, LOTRO, FFXI, Guild Wars, whatever... these games feel polished, smooth and fluid. Sure they still have a bug or glitch here and there. But the chance you run into it is very small. With Vanguard it's the other way around. That's the big difference and the main reason Vanguard continues to struggle to hold on to the amount of subs and doesn't grow. |
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3/03/09 10:03:56 AM#22
i actually resubbed last month, left again, because EVE is just taking up way too much time for me to split between 2, more in depth, mmos. The client runs alot better than it did when it launched, alot better. I was there and seeing it run on max for me, game looks great ( some animations like running are a bit weak). There was 1 or 2 bugs i saw, mostly cosmetic or graphical glitches, NOTHING like which was present at launch. The game is actually fairly bug free (i got to lvl 15ish).
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3/03/09 2:22:09 PM#23
You can't deny that VG has a large number of bugs. I mean if I go looking for bugs and trying to find them to highlight them I can no doubt come up with a good list. When the game was released it was impossible to play without constantly running into bugs. I mean you couldn't even group and zone without the group becoming half disconnected and not being able to invite people. Or you would go up a hill and fall through the world so often that you avoided hills. Every time you zoned there was a risk that something bad would happen. Graphics lag and hitching were a virual death sentence waiting to happen at any time. There were many chunks in the game that were completely empty of mobs and other areas where the mobs had no loot at all. You could crash every 30-60 minutes if you forgot to /flush. There were various duping bugs and lots of other issues. The game was clearly unfinished and released way before it should have been! Today you can play the game and not encounter any of these issues. You can still find some quests that don't work right, you can find occational graphic errors where something doesn't look right, you can when swiming swim below the world and if you keep going down fall, you can run into issues many others describe. However, you can also play for hours and hours without any problems of bugs in one of the largest, most complex and diverse games on the market. Yeah it has been two years but if the game was released today it would do very well. And today is what matters isn't it? If you are looking for a good PvE oriented game VG is a very good choice. No other game has the scope of features and capabilities VG has. But no game keeps people going forever, VG is a great game but to all things there comes a time to move on to something else if for no other reason then to take a break and give things time to evolve and expand so that when you come back it is to a new exciting start. 
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3/03/09 2:35:57 PM#24
Originally posted by boojiboy
This? This has only resulting with people going to LotRO, WoW, WAR <insert your MMORPG here> and copying over bug threads as well. There's no difference.
Kinda funny actually, some of these threads aren't even bugs and some of them go back 3 months. Thats a pretty impressive amount of digging. But as has been said you can find this kinda stuff in any game. Go head to the wow forums or LotR od any game and you can find tons of issues being reported and all from the past few hours...
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Originally posted by ethion
Kinda funny actually, some of these threads aren't even bugs and some of them go back 3 months. Thats a pretty impressive amount of digging. But as has been said you can find this kinda stuff in any game. Go head to the wow forums or LotR od any game and you can find tons of issues being reported and all from the past few hours...
Did you actually read the topics? Appearently not. All topics are the most recent discussions. The go back 3 months is appearently just 2 words (3 months) you saw somewhere and then think it's 3 month old topic. If you read that particular topic then you would have read that that big quest chain is bugged for 3 months and still not fixed. Something entirely different. So it's no digging at all..... I took me less then 30 secs to pick the topics from the first forum page and link them here. So nice try. |
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Originally posted by ethion Me, my gf and some others didn't go look for bugs just so we can troll here. I know that is what you guys want to hear. So I am very sorry to dissapoint you that's not the case. We were just playing the game. Not skipping over half the quests on Isle of Dawn (We have done every single one of them in Adventure, Crafting, Diplomacy). Then we went to Veksar's Exchange and Three Rivers (for fishing quest) and strated playing there. You are right that on sertain nights we didn't encounter any issues at all, except the occasional glitches (graphics, clipping clothes, etc). But plenty of nights we ran into bugged quests, issues, glitches, lag, heavy chunking, etc. The fishing and group loot system is just downright tedious (and fishing also buggy). We haven't crashed at all.... as both my gf and me have pretty new hardware with plenty of memory (both RAM as VRAM). Cheers
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3/03/09 3:05:19 PM#27
I don't like where they've taken the game world to be honest. The new raiding zone is okay, but there is way too much emphasis on APW. I also detest the new island that has laser beams, snipers and airships. I no longer recognize the game I loved from years previous. All the new content is like something you would see with a world like Warhammer or its 2nd cousin to not be named. Telon is not like it used to be, since they added all the insta-teleport-crystals, while good in theory to make it easier for folks to get together, I find it trivializes everything into a standard game, completely abolishing any real need for a boat.
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3/03/09 3:28:04 PM#28
Originally posted by aeroplane22
I had the same exact experience and I've played many MMOs to try to rediscover the fun I had in EQ. Vanguard is that game for me. I took me a long time to move from lvl 1 to lvl 50 in Vanguard because Vanguard made me forget about experience and my level. I was enthralled with the adventuring, the world, and everything the game had to offer and thoroughly enjoyed the ride. There's nothing like one's 'first time', but VG has gotten pretty darn close for me. And the community as a whole consists largely of EQ vets that enjoy the same type of MMORG. |
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3/03/09 4:13:06 PM#29
Originally posted by Guillermo197 Me, my gf and some others didn't go look for bugs just so we can troll here. I know that is what you guys want to hear. So I am very sorry to dissapoint you that's not the case. We were just playing the game. Not skipping over half the quests on Isle of Dawn (We have done every single one of them in Adventure, Crafting, Diplomacy). Then we went to Veksar's Exchange and Three Rivers (for fishing quest) and strated playing there. You are right that on sertain nights we didn't encounter any issues at all, except the occasional glitches (graphics, clipping clothes, etc). But plenty of nights we ran into bugged quests, issues, glitches, lag, heavy chunking, etc. The fishing and group loot system is just downright tedious (and fishing also buggy). We haven't crashed at all.... as both my gf and me have pretty new hardware with plenty of memory (both RAM as VRAM). Cheers
I think folks were just trying to point out that if you are having performance problems, then it probably can be fixed, especially if you have newer hardware. As people were saying, performance isn't really an issue with VG any more and can probably be fixed up with some well placed tweaks. Also, there are complaints about IoD and Veksals because they are so crowded. But after leveling into the teens, the world spreads out exponentially. Honestly, I've never experienced most of the bugs you describe, perhaps it's related to some hardware issues or setting. For example, turn off Hardware Occulsion and you've never see a flickering graphic again. |
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Originally posted by boojiboy
I think folks were just trying to point out that if you are having performance problems, then it probably can be fixed, especially if you have newer hardware. As people were saying, performance isn't really an issue with VG any more and can probably be fixed up with some well placed tweaks. Also, there are complaints about IoD and Veksals because they are so crowded. But after leveling into the teens, the world spreads out exponentially. Honestly, I've never experienced most of the bugs you describe, perhaps it's related to some hardware issues or setting. For example, turn off Hardware Occulsion and you've never see a flickering graphic again. Maybe if you guys read what Im posting. The only thing you keep mentioning from my whole post is performance problems. I don't give a jack about that. It's annoying yes. But not the main issue. As I am constantly tweaking to get decent FPS. So it's managable. (except the heavy chunking) It's all the other stuff Im mentioning. And that is not hardware related. And I know about hardware occulsion and flickering graphics in the world. Clipping clothes on your avatar is not solved by that, as it's caused by lazy programming/design. Same clipping crap as with Warhammer Online. (its actually even worse in WAR). |
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3/04/09 1:52:50 AM#31
Originally posted by Arkade99
The reason it doesnt reach that potential is because the community is made up of extreme pve fanatics, many of whome are vocal to the point of telling everyone thats not exactly like them to gtfo of "their" game. That said, vangaurd is only half complete, by this i mean its missing a huge focus that just abotu every successful mmorpg has. Its called PvP, player vs player, this is player made challenges, content created by the player and of which will always last longer than any pve content that losing its value not long after its put in. I was also back in beta, and at launch. On the silk venom forums i used to have a discussion with Brad and a few other devs, they said they had some great and exciting plans for pvp. ITs kind of the key to success these days, it doesnt even have to be hardcore pvp, just faction based gameplay. No one picks up Vanguard except the few role players and casual old people these days because its missing the focus that ensures multiple play styles and an exciting a live world. If soe ever wants this game to make progress in sales, and this is a great game that deserves it, then it needs to ignore the fanatical pve extremist on the server, and reach the wider more populated audience by re-evaluating classes and implimenting a pvp system that works, use the old pvp server for it. I would recommend faction based pvp, not the ffa griefer play. Thats what darkfall is for. Some of you may hate pvp, but thats the only thing that will save vanguard and actually make it grow ( a healthy mixture of pve+pvp), even if you dont have to participate in it. |
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3/04/09 2:17:57 AM#32
I've been running into the same problems that the OP has stated as well. I've tried IoD and noticed some chunking, wrong items, weapons, and armor on my character that I don't want to use. When this happens, it can get a little confusing as to what you should do. Do I replace the items or will they just magically change back. On the mainland, I've noticed that there are some mobs that are invisible that shouldn't be, and when they are 3 levels lower than you, they shoudn't be killing you in like 4 hits. I've was also been trying to do some quests at lvl 16 where am I to kill so many of each mob. Well like I said above, when a mob is 3 levels lower than you, it should not be killing you that easily. And it was only a 2 or 3 dot mob. I had also noticed that mobs that are strictly melee will hit you from a distance. With low populations and the problems I just stated, I just gave up in frustration and quit the game. I really wanted to like the game and felt it had potential, but there are still a lot of small bugs and such that would seem to be easy to fix that have been there since launch that have never been fixed, but it's quite apparent that it's not the teams number 1 focus. |
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3/04/09 9:16:50 AM#33
Originally posted by Rabenwolf
The reason it doesnt reach that potential is because the community is made up of extreme pve fanatics, many of whome are vocal to the point of telling everyone thats not exactly like them to gtfo of "their" game. That said, vangaurd is only half complete, by this i mean its missing a huge focus that just abotu every successful mmorpg has. Its called PvP, player vs player, this is player made challenges, content created by the player and of which will always last longer than any pve content that losing its value not long after its put in. I was also back in beta, and at launch. On the silk venom forums i used to have a discussion with Brad and a few other devs, they said they had some great and exciting plans for pvp. ITs kind of the key to success these days, it doesnt even have to be hardcore pvp, just faction based gameplay. No one picks up Vanguard except the few role players and casual old people these days because its missing the focus that ensures multiple play styles and an exciting a live world. If soe ever wants this game to make progress in sales, and this is a great game that deserves it, then it needs to ignore the fanatical pve extremist on the server, and reach the wider more populated audience by re-evaluating classes and implimenting a pvp system that works, use the old pvp server for it. I would recommend faction based pvp, not the ffa griefer play. Thats what darkfall is for. Some of you may hate pvp, but thats the only thing that will save vanguard and actually make it grow ( a healthy mixture of pve+pvp), even if you dont have to participate in it. Brad Said: pvp is being taken seriously, and will involve different combat formulae so we can balance it without having to mess with pve balance, which i think is key. and then different variations of pvp will be made available on different alternate ruleset servers Unfortunately Sigil went belly up and and this vision was never realized. Brad did forsee the problem of balancing PvP without screwing up PvE, and I think thats the crux of the problem. Unfortunately Vanguard does not have a million subscribers to afford to throw a whole second development team devoted to PvP with special ruleset servers. I also believe that SoE has been watching AoC, WAR and Darkfall all being released recently and all being pretty much PvP games. If they had invested a lot of resources to PvP it may have been wasted with PvP'ers migrating to these other games.
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3/04/09 9:51:55 AM#34
VG is a decent game, offers more content than most of its kind and its relatively stable. Im not going to say its bug free, its not, but its bug free enough that I usualy play it for a couple months at a time, take a short break, go back, etc. Its the only MMO I do this with so I guess its got some worth to me. You can bitch about the bugs all you want, and honestly if its that big a deal to you, than you made the right decision to quit. If youd like to play a game that is bug free I guess youve really only got a few choices, and most of them arent very good ones lol.
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3/06/09 10:56:00 PM#35
Sorry to hear you're having those troubles.. I've recently subscribed to this game after doing the trial. I found a few laggy issues but were by no means regular. So far I love the game but I can see where some people would be frustrated that after playing for a while still dealing with basic bugs.
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3/07/09 3:37:55 AM#36
Shame SOE doesn't seem to see it that way, as they are more busy screwing up their games that actually made a profit (like EQ2).
Agreed at 100%,its a shame...
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3/07/09 9:51:53 AM#37
I played my 10 Sorcerer yesterday on IoD. Isle of Dawn is a bit more laggy that the rest of the world. But that is mostly likely because of the number of people. I had to log to my main for a raid, but counted 109 people in Isle of Dawn alone before I left. And that was 5:30pm CST... before prime time really ramps up. In addition, there are certain areas where NPCs are fighting one another, villages are on fire etc. etc. etc. You add that to all the people there it gets to be a lot. That said, I was still getting 50 fps on the Isle. I get around 60 fps in the rest of Telon. As for bugs, I still have not encountered a single one in IoD. I'm finishing up the diplomacy quest lines, I've completed the adventuring quests and will start crafting next. |
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