Originally posted by jonyak

Originally posted by Kyleran

Please stop with threads like this one.   OP offers nothing to defend his position making this a weak trolling attempt.  Tell us why the game is good, or why its not, but don't just vomit a bunch of baseless opinion into the forums.

I'm trying to decide whether or not to play this game, (or more specifically, when to try it) and threads like these waste my time.

 

 

 

don't play the game.

you guys will hate it and frankly I don't want to hear your bitching all over the forums... whoops too late.

the person you're replying to, and myself, are both eve players.  we've been playing a REAL hardcore game for quite some time.

what have you been playing?  where have you spent your non-pvp-hardcore time pre-darkfall?

by the by, making statements like yours, they don't do the darkfall cult any good.  if youre intentionally wanting to look bad, bravo, you've succeeded.

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

RPers? hahahhahahahah the joke of the human race

 

Yet without RPers MMORPGs would have never existed, which would mean UO never would have happened and hence DFO would never have been thought of...

right lol and FPS would have never existed also

FPS is a totally different genre and the system of those games havent changed since their inception.

MMORPGs are based on the old PnP style RolePlaying system where people would "Role Play". Those gamers were the ones who helped create the MMORPG genre and if they never existed, the system wouldnt have and therefore the genre never would have.
 

nope that's a lie

 

Then kindly prove where and how it is, seeing as you have such insightful knowledge on the subject.

it's pretty obvious someone would have made a game where you could create a character and get him skills eventually

 

Aye, I think his name was Gary Gygax.

But again, without those such roleplayers from the late 70s to mid 90s MMORPG (Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games) would never have existed. They created the foundations, the systems and the character structures used in games such as DFO. Without these people you might be waiting another 10 - 15 years for such a genre to appear if at all.

To say its obvious that someone would eventually have done something is equivelent to hindsight.

lol yea right someone would have played dungeon crawler or something and said hey! why can't i play this with other people

/facepalm

Originally posted by Ashrik

 

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the way of the pear

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What is this?

 

I can only assume its a reference to something "going pear-shaped" as in a woman who starts out hot then gets fat and, therefore, pear-shaped.

I should be elite after this post.
 

Originally posted by Kyleran

Please stop with threads like this one.   OP offers nothing to defend his position making this a weak trolling attempt.  Tell us why the game is good, or why its not, but don't just vomit a bunch of baseless opinion into the forums.

I'm trying to decide whether or not to play this game, (or more specifically, when to try it) and threads like these waste my time.

 

 

It is kind of like that song "Oh baby shes got it" no one really knows what shes got but oh baby shes got it. get me? what he is describing is IT. being a fun factor i assume. besides any description of awesome he gives will just get bashed with a description of how awesome it isnt. so i guess he really didnt care about any position of defence because the flames are hot this week.

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by oronisi

Originally posted by TheNinjaboy

Originally posted by Haart

Ignore the bitchers, whiners, even the Snakes of Panaker.

Darkfall has got 'it' right.

The only MMO I have played since UO to have 'it'.

Personally I think that 75% of 'it' is atmosphere. The other 25?, you tell me.

Pray God this game doesn't go the way of the pear.

 

 

 

To be honest I think Darkfall has the worst group of retards in their community in the history of MMOs.

It's not Darkfall's fault though as a lot of the aspects of the game appeal to two groups:

 

 

#1. "Hardcore" PvPer's who want a FPS compeitive skill based MMO game - the Good part of the community

 

#2.  13-16 year old kids with massive amounts of teen agnst running around QQing, saying retarded nonsense on forums,  in game global, and in private tells after they get rolled. - The bad part of the community.

 

 

Unfortunately it seems like #2 makes up for 75% of the community and #1 makes up for 25%

 

Now it would be OK if most of the comments were funny, creative, or witty but most of it is just /yawn emo dribble spewed out by mad little kids.

 

Hopefully with more players coming into the game the trend is somehow miraculously reversed but if not just prepare to put a lot of tards on ignore.

 

 

What happened to the RPers looking for a sandbox game?  You know, the ones DF was originally created for. 

RPers? hahahhahahahah the joke of the human race

 

Yet without RPers MMORPGs would have never existed, which would mean UO never would have happened and hence DFO would never have been thought of...

right lol and FPS would have never existed also

Massively Multiplayer Online ROLE PLAYING Games.  sort of evolved out of the MUDs, which kinda were RPers.

seriously, you can't dispute something that is as common knowledge as this.  because you're completely new, doesn't make your wrongness any "righter".

FPS has nothing to do with RPers/MMORPGs... that's the equivalent of saying "hey, i heard you have a car -- BAHAHAHAHA i ate a banana yesterday."   it has the same relevancy - none.

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by oronisi

Originally posted by TheNinjaboy

Originally posted by Haart

Ignore the bitchers, whiners, even the Snakes of Panaker.

Darkfall has got 'it' right.

The only MMO I have played since UO to have 'it'.

Personally I think that 75% of 'it' is atmosphere. The other 25?, you tell me.

Pray God this game doesn't go the way of the pear.

 

 

 

To be honest I think Darkfall has the worst group of retards in their community in the history of MMOs.

It's not Darkfall's fault though as a lot of the aspects of the game appeal to two groups:

 

 

#1. "Hardcore" PvPer's who want a FPS compeitive skill based MMO game - the Good part of the community

 

#2.  13-16 year old kids with massive amounts of teen agnst running around QQing, saying retarded nonsense on forums,  in game global, and in private tells after they get rolled. - The bad part of the community.

 

 

Unfortunately it seems like #2 makes up for 75% of the community and #1 makes up for 25%

 

Now it would be OK if most of the comments were funny, creative, or witty but most of it is just /yawn emo dribble spewed out by mad little kids.

 

Hopefully with more players coming into the game the trend is somehow miraculously reversed but if not just prepare to put a lot of tards on ignore.

 

 

What happened to the RPers looking for a sandbox game?  You know, the ones DF was originally created for. 

RPers? hahahhahahahah the joke of the human race

 

Yet without RPers MMORPGs would have never existed, which would mean UO never would have happened and hence DFO would never have been thought of...

right lol and FPS would have never existed also

 

Massively Multiplayer Online ROLE PLAYING Games.  sort of evolved out of the MUDs, which kinda were RPers.

seriously, you can't dispute something that is as common knowledge as this.  because you're completely new, doesn't make your wrongness any "righter".

FPS has nothing to do with RPers/MMORPGs... that's the equivalent of saying "hey, i heard you have a car -- BAHAHAHAHA i ate a banana yesterday."   it has the same relevancy - none.

RPing has no place in mmos these days

FFS i want to play.......i want to play.......I WANT TO PLAY. Shouldnt of listened to all the trolls and took the risk. Id like to personally applaud them though they are good at what they do but im really pissed off at them at the same time. gg trolls.....gg

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

RPers? hahahhahahahah the joke of the human race

 

Yet without RPers MMORPGs would have never existed, which would mean UO never would have happened and hence DFO would never have been thought of...

right lol and FPS would have never existed also

 

Massively Multiplayer Online ROLE PLAYING Games.  sort of evolved out of the MUDs, which kinda were RPers.

seriously, you can't dispute something that is as common knowledge as this.  because you're completely new, doesn't make your wrongness any "righter".

FPS has nothing to do with RPers/MMORPGs... that's the equivalent of saying "hey, i heard you have a car -- BAHAHAHAHA i ate a banana yesterday."   it has the same relevancy - none.

 

RPing has no place in mmos these days

Says who?

You?

And you are backed by what authority?

None?

Thought so.

Originally posted by Stevegopop

FFS i want to play.......i want to play.......I WANT TO PLAY. Shouldnt of listened to all the trolls and took the risk. Id like to personally applaud them though they are good at what they do but im really pissed off at them at the same time. gg trolls.....gg

You're pissed at strangers on a forum because you allowed them to form your opinion for you?

Damn those must have been some Trolls with +3 to influence critical.

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

RPing has no place in mmos these days

Says who?

You?

And you are backed by what authority?

None?

Thought so.

I personally find RPers to be a bit creepy, however, I have no problem with them enjoying the game in their own way. I'd never tell someone not too, anyway..

"RPing has no place in mmos these days"

I think you are forgetting that it is mmoRPG. If role playing has no place in MMO's, why is it that virtually every single one of them have lore, back story, character progression, and the tools to RP in the design?

Originally posted by Die_Scream

Originally posted by Stevegopop

FFS i want to play.......i want to play.......I WANT TO PLAY. Shouldnt of listened to all the trolls and took the risk. Id like to personally applaud them though they are good at what they do but im really pissed off at them at the same time. gg trolls.....gg

 

You're pissed at strangers on a forum because you allowed them to form your opinion for you?

Damn those must have been some Trolls with +3 to influence critical.

its sad but true, and i guess now i know......

Originally posted by Stevegopop

FFS i want to play.......i want to play.......I WANT TO PLAY. Shouldnt of listened to all the trolls and took the risk. Id like to personally applaud them though they are good at what they do but im really pissed off at them at the same time. gg trolls.....gg

people shouldn't support pay-to-play betas.  it sets an awful precedent and only means that more and more companies will release half-finished games...

but, you can't say that av is the first company to do this, they're just the latest.

Originally posted by oronisi

Originally posted by TheNinjaboy

Originally posted by Haart

Ignore the bitchers, whiners, even the Snakes of Panaker.

Darkfall has got 'it' right.

The only MMO I have played since UO to have 'it'.

Personally I think that 75% of 'it' is atmosphere. The other 25?, you tell me.

Pray God this game doesn't go the way of the pear.

 

 

 

To be honest I think Darkfall has the worst group of retards in their community in the history of MMOs.

It's not Darkfall's fault though as a lot of the aspects of the game appeal to two groups:

 

 

#1. "Hardcore" PvPer's who want a FPS compeitive skill based MMO game - the Good part of the community

 

#2.  13-16 year old kids with massive amounts of teen agnst running around QQing, saying retarded nonsense on forums,  in game global, and in private tells after they get rolled. - The bad part of the community.

 

 

Unfortunately it seems like #2 makes up for 75% of the community and #1 makes up for 25%

 

Now it would be OK if most of the comments were funny, creative, or witty but most of it is just /yawn emo dribble spewed out by mad little kids.

 

Hopefully with more players coming into the game the trend is somehow miraculously reversed but if not just prepare to put a lot of tards on ignore.

 

 

What happened to the RPers looking for a sandbox game?  You know, the ones DF was originally created for. 

They better make an rp server
 

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

RPers? hahahhahahahah the joke of the human race

 

Yet without RPers MMORPGs would have never existed, which would mean UO never would have happened and hence DFO would never have been thought of...

right lol and FPS would have never existed also

FPS is a totally different genre and the system of those games havent changed since their inception.

MMORPGs are based on the old PnP style RolePlaying system where people would "Role Play". Those gamers were the ones who helped create the MMORPG genre and if they never existed, the system wouldnt have and therefore the genre never would have.
 

nope that's a lie

 

Then kindly prove where and how it is, seeing as you have such insightful knowledge on the subject.

it's pretty obvious someone would have made a game where you could create a character and get him skills eventually

 

Aye, I think his name was Gary Gygax.

But again, without those such roleplayers from the late 70s to mid 90s MMORPG (Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games) would never have existed. They created the foundations, the systems and the character structures used in games such as DFO. Without these people you might be waiting another 10 - 15 years for such a genre to appear if at all.

To say its obvious that someone would eventually have done something is equivelent to hindsight.

lol yea right someone would have played dungeon crawler or something and said hey! why can't i play this with other people

Just incase you could not comprehend the "/facepalm" The P&P Dungeons and Dragons RPG was the first "Comercialized" and highly popular DUNGEON CRAWLER. P&P = Pen and Paper

If it were not for roleplayers you might as well be given a sword and thrown into Agon. Oh, did I forget to mention that you wouldn't be able to change clothes, or get new weapons? Oh and also, everyone would look exactly the same.

As for us being the "joke of the human race"

I'd like to see you muster up the attention span to create your own progressional story line (comparable to writing a book) with your friends. Can't do it eh? What are you going to say now, books are the scum of the universe?

Originally posted by xsarkaix

Originally posted by oronisi

 

What happened to the RPers looking for a sandbox game?  You know, the ones DF was originally created for. 

They better make an rp server
 

I think a lot of us are waiting.

I have been growing impatiente waiting for release, as a lot of you, these last months as release was aproaching (reading forums, leaks, looking for vids etc...). Came Feb 26 and suddenly all the impatiente *poof* was gone, almost funny. Now I am just keeping an eye on it more skeptic than ever.

Right now Darkfall would fullfill my PvP needs but other than that, lacks in so many areas that I could hardly call it a Sandbox game. Great for people just interested on a swallow PvP game, bad for the rest of us looking for a deep PvP system or a game rich with other features.

They had a great concept : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bYYT6Wg3Gg

They delivered a shell of it.

Let's hope their "updating the game once $ flow in" skills are better than their "release the game" skills.

Originally posted by forinboy

Originally posted by Ashrik

 

---

the way of the pear

---

What is this?

 

 

I can only assume its a reference to something "going pear-shaped" as in a woman who starts out hot then gets fat and, therefore, pear-shaped.

 

I should be elite after this post.
 

 

 

I prefer to say 'it's all gone tits up' or 'it's all gone runny' personally...but I think you're right about the pear-shaped thing.

Originally posted by ZsasZ

kidding aside, I notice a lot of parallels between Darkfall and Chinese Democracy. Both took forever to come out, both actually *did* come out, and both were way too mediocre to take as long as it did.

 

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by fyerwall

Originally posted by rr2real

RPers? hahahhahahahah the joke of the human race

 

Yet without RPers MMORPGs would have never existed, which would mean UO never would have happened and hence DFO would never have been thought of...

right lol and FPS would have never existed also

FPS is a totally different genre and the system of those games havent changed since their inception.

MMORPGs are based on the old PnP style RolePlaying system where people would "Role Play". Those gamers were the ones who helped create the MMORPG genre and if they never existed, the system wouldnt have and therefore the genre never would have.
 

nope that's a lie

 

Then kindly prove where and how it is, seeing as you have such insightful knowledge on the subject.

it's pretty obvious someone would have made a game where you could create a character and get him skills eventually

 

Aye, I think his name was Gary Gygax.

But again, without those such roleplayers from the late 70s to mid 90s MMORPG (Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games) would never have existed. They created the foundations, the systems and the character structures used in games such as DFO. Without these people you might be waiting another 10 - 15 years for such a genre to appear if at all.

To say its obvious that someone would eventually have done something is equivelent to hindsight.

lol yea right someone would have played dungeon crawler or something and said hey! why can't i play this with other people

How old are you boy? Where do you think dungeon crawler and RPG games are coming from?

Check this out, Advanced Dungeons and Dragons on the Intellivison console in 1982. It think this was one of the first video game RPG dungeon crawlers. I remember spending so many hours on this, this may look like crap today, but it was pure awesomeness for it's time. Awesome game.

www.youtube.com/watch

And here once inside a Dungeon, the AD&D Treasure Of Tarmin with 3D in 1982, This was totally huge and immersive:

www.youtube.com/watch

So, and where do you think these 1982 games came from? The D&D pen and paper games

Originally posted by BigMango

www.youtube.com/watch

And here once inside a Dungeon, the AD&D Treasure Of Tarmin with 3D in 1982, This was totally huge and immersive:

www.youtube.com/watch

So, and where do you think these 1982 games come from? The pen and paper games

 

Damn that was a stroll down memory lane.

Only one kid in my neighborhood was rich enough to have a computer, we'd all go to his house to play, a keyboard even was so foreign.

*Sun rise, sunset*

Originally posted by strongaxe

Indeed. I have had more fun the last 2 days playing DF than I have had on any other MMO.

Concur. The game has rapidly reverted back to how it was in beta and i'm having a great time. there's no question in my mind DF has enough of "it" to thrive, and if the level of responsiveness of the devs i've seen in beta and now in release, i have no doubt DF has a great future.

It's very obvious to me as a *player* that a lot of the negativity here is flat-out lies and trolling, as it does not correlate with the general vibe i can see & read in other actual DF players in game, nor with what i am experiencing while playing. and despite massive trolling here from people who've never ever played the game, there is massive demand for DF.

since virtually all of DF's PR has come from this trolling, i understand that DF essentially needs the clueless troll crowd to continue keeping DF in the limelight, doesn't stop it from being pretty amusing.