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  Ridrith

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4/09/09 5:35:34 AM#141

I've never posted on these forums before, until now.

 

This post =  "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

 

 

Cry more.

  Copeland

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4/09/09 5:37:44 AM#142


Originally posted by RedwoodSap
A good example of a scam is releasing a MMOG, promising never to add any form of RMT, allowing players to invest a year or two into the game and their characters, then adding RMT like SOE has done.

That's not true. If you look on the side of any SOE product box it specifically states that the gameplay experience is subject to change.

Although i agree with you that it's BS :P

oh and a certain guy whos last name starts with S and ends with Y can die in a fire for all i care.

  skeaser

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4/09/09 5:37:48 AM#143
Originally posted by Copeland

 


Originally posted by skeaser
I cancelled my DFO account over a week ago and just got billed 42 Euro for digital download.
Time to call the bank.

 


What does canceling your account have to do with the purchase of the game?

 

This thread is about Darkfall being a ripoff/scam.

I bought the game, paid for it, got charged, cancelled, got charger again.

Thought that fit well in a "scam" thread.


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  Copeland

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4/09/09 5:39:54 AM#144


Originally posted by skeaser

Originally posted by Copeland

 



Originally posted by skeaser
I cancelled my DFO account over a week ago and just got billed 42 Euro for digital download.
Time to call the bank.


 

What does canceling your account have to do with the purchase of the game?



 
This thread is about Darkfall being a ripoff/scam.
I bought the game, paid for it, got charged, cancelled, got charger again.
Thought that fit well in a "scam" thread.

Oh you got double billed for the game. See you didn't mention that LOL.

  skeaser

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4/09/09 5:41:38 AM#145
Originally posted by Copeland

 


Originally posted by skeaser

Originally posted by Copeland

 

 



Originally posted by skeaser
I cancelled my DFO account over a week ago and just got billed 42 Euro for digital download.
Time to call the bank.


 

 

What does canceling your account have to do with the purchase of the game?



 
This thread is about Darkfall being a ripoff/scam.
I bought the game, paid for it, got charged, cancelled, got charger again.
Thought that fit well in a "scam" thread.

 

Oh you got double billed for the game. See you didn't mention that LOL.

 

Sorry, early in the morning, coffee is still brewing. But, ya, double billed, way after the fact. They sent me a lovely invoice though.


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  Copeland

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4/09/09 5:42:34 AM#146

Honestly i feel sorry for nobody that purchased this game an now regrets it. It's not like this forum was a ringing endorsement for the game or the company. You didn't listen and now you regret it. WAH LOL.

If you're enjoying the game cool but those who are whining about it now have no leg to stand on.

  Raizeen

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4/09/09 5:42:38 AM#147

since you can get your money back from the bank cuase its a scam and false advertisement i think il beleave that more then some ignorant fanbot im suprised everyone hasent done the same yet

raizeen Xfire Miniprofile
  Moaky07

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4/09/09 5:45:47 AM#148
Originally posted by Copeland

 


Originally posted by Irishoak
Slander is spoken, libel is usually written, even in Florida.  Florida recognizes "opinion" as a defense.

 

True. It's libel not slander.

Anyway it was just a thought that creeped into my hungover head at 5am so take it for what it's worth.. not much LOL

I just love that people jump to "it's a scam" because it gets off to rough start or the company is doing whatever it needs to get off the ground.

Sure it's near impossible to buy the game. It's full of hackers and bugs.

I honestly don't see anything unusual or unexpected in anything that has transpired with this launch. As a matter of fact i recall pre-launch that AV said there would be limited quantities available and that they could only afford to have 1 server up at launch.


 

Listen fanboi...I dont give a ratz arse one way or another about DF. For the sake of its players I hope it succeeds, as I am a fellow gamer. I sure havent spent my time trolling you guys since launch.

That is neither here nor there...the point in question is "what is a scam". DF is selling their game with information found on their web site that is totally offbase for their actual game. Things that have been cut, and not going to reappear are being displayed as of yet.

I cant give details, but there is a thread that gives all that information, down to the detail, if you look on this first page of this forum(dont think it was this thread). It goes thru all the features showing what is in, and what isnt. A substantial list of key items are missing from the implementation of game.

So like I said...it is classic definition of a scam. The very epitome according to webster.

The only reason I commented in thread is cause so many folks are using their own definition of "scam" vs what one in actuality is. Including yourself.

Now spare us the hung over excuse, as you spoke when you shouldnt of. You wanna argue with someone, then take it up with Webster and the English language. Sheesh

Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.

  RedwoodSap

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4/09/09 5:47:00 AM#149
Originally posted by Copeland

 


Originally posted by RedwoodSap
A good example of a scam is releasing a MMOG, promising never to add any form of RMT, allowing players to invest a year or two into the game and their characters, then adding RMT like SOE has done.

 

That's not true. If you look on the side of any SOE product box it specifically states that the gameplay experience is subject to change.

Although i agree with you that it's BS :P

oh and a certain guy whos last name starts with S and ends with Y can die in a fire for all i care.

You are overlooking the fact that Smedley himself said specifically he would never allow RMT to be introduced to EQ and EQ2 non exchange servers. That supersedes any vague catch all legalese written in small print.

  skeaser

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4/09/09 5:47:13 AM#150
Originally posted by Copeland

Honestly i feel sorry for nobody that purchased this game an now regrets it. It's not like this forum was a ringing endorsement for the game or the company. You didn't listen and now you regret it. WAH LOL.

If you're enjoying the game cool but those who are whining about it now have no leg to stand on.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about the game itself. I saw the warnings and wanted to see for myself anyway. The initial costs associated with trying the game do not bother me at all nor does the experience. I knew full well the risk I was taking.

Fraudulent credit card charges weren't expected though.


A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.
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  Copeland

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Love is where you give,
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4/09/09 5:47:17 AM#151


Originally posted by Raizeen
since you can get your money back from the bank cuase its a scam and false advertisement i think il beleave that more then some ignorant fanbot im suprised everyone hasent done the same yet

Yeah.. explain to the bank. "yeah i gave my money to this company. Of course i had to click on their store page 50,000 times over the period of a month just to buy it. This was actually after 8 years of people telling me this game was being made by and indy company and might be vaporware. I really wasn't expecting any difficulty after that! You know store websites are the hardest part of MMO development and all. SO YES i was completely SURPRISED by the fact that the simplest features such as server queues and billing were so messed up!"

  reillan

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Joined: 11/01/07
Posts: 120

4/09/09 5:48:11 AM#152
Originally posted by Moaky07

Listen fanboi...I dont give a ratz arse one way or another about DF. For the sake of its players I hope it succeeds, as I am a fellow gamer. I sure havent spent my time trolling you guys since launch.

That is neither here nor there...the point in question is "what is a scam". DF is selling their game with information found on their web site that is totally offbase for their actual game. Things that have been cut, and not going to reappear are being displayed as of yet.

I cant give details, but there is a thread that gives all that information, down to the detail, if you look on this first page of this forum(dont think it was this thread). It goes thru all the features showing what is in, and what isnt. A substantial list of key items are missing from the implementation of game.

So like I said...it is classic definition of a scam. The very epitome according to webster.

The only reason I commented in thread is cause so many folks are using their own definition of "scam" vs what one in actuality is. Including yourself.

Now spare us the hung over excuse, as you spoke when you shouldnt of. You wanna argue with someone, then take it up with Webster and the English language. Sheesh

 

[Citation Needed]

  Copeland

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4/09/09 5:48:14 AM#153


Originally posted by Moaky07

Originally posted by Copeland

 



Originally posted by Irishoak
Slander is spoken, libel is usually written, even in Florida.  Florida recognizes "opinion" as a defense.


 
True. It's libel not slander.
Anyway it was just a thought that creeped into my hungover head at 5am so take it for what it's worth.. not much LOL
I just love that people jump to "it's a scam" because it gets off to rough start or the company is doing whatever it needs to get off the ground.
Sure it's near impossible to buy the game. It's full of hackers and bugs.
I honestly don't see anything unusual or unexpected in anything that has transpired with this launch. As a matter of fact i recall pre-launch that AV said there would be limited quantities available and that they could only afford to have 1 server up at launch.

 
Listen fanboi...I dont give a ratz arse one way or another about DF. For the sake of its players I hope it succeeds, as I am a fellow gamer. I sure havent spent my time trolling you guys since launch.
That is neither here nor there...the point in question is "what is a scam". DF is selling their game with information found on their web site that is totally offbase for their actual game. Things that have been cut, and not going to reappear are being displayed as of yet.
I cant give details, but there is a thread that gives all that information, down to the detail, if you look on this first page of this forum(dont think it was this thread). It goes thru all the features showing what is in, and what isnt. A substantial list of key items are missing from the implementation of game.
So like I said...it is classic definition of a scam. The very epitome according to webster.
The only reason I commented in thread is cause so many folks are using their own definition of "scam" vs what one in actuality is. Including yourself.
Now spare us the hung over excuse, as you spoke when you shouldnt of. You wanna argue with someone, then take it up with Webster and the English language. Sheesh



LOL i stopped reading after you called me a fanboi. I wouldn't touch this pig with a 800 ft poker HAHA..

Ok read some of it. Yeah i'm sure it's AV's intent to get people to buy the game.. Since in reality it's almost impossible to actually do so. Maybe they just haven't had time to update their site.

Oh and actually i'm hungover yet still a little drunk.. i hate that.. i think i might just start drinking again.. it is 6am now LOL i love vacations!

  Moaky07

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MMO sandbox games are as exciting as watching paint dry.

4/09/09 5:57:39 AM#154
Originally posted by Copeland

 


Originally posted by Moaky07

Originally posted by Copeland

 

 
 



Originally posted by Irishoak
Slander is spoken, libel is usually written, even in Florida.  Florida recognizes "opinion" as a defense.


 
True. It's libel not slander.
Anyway it was just a thought that creeped into my hungover head at 5am so take it for what it's worth.. not much LOL
I just love that people jump to "it's a scam" because it gets off to rough start or the company is doing whatever it needs to get off the ground.
Sure it's near impossible to buy the game. It's full of hackers and bugs.
I honestly don't see anything unusual or unexpected in anything that has transpired with this launch. As a matter of fact i recall pre-launch that AV said there would be limited quantities available and that they could only afford to have 1 server up at launch.

 

 
Listen fanboi...I dont give a ratz arse one way or another about DF. For the sake of its players I hope it succeeds, as I am a fellow gamer. I sure havent spent my time trolling you guys since launch.
That is neither here nor there...the point in question is "what is a scam". DF is selling their game with information found on their web site that is totally offbase for their actual game. Things that have been cut, and not going to reappear are being displayed as of yet.
I cant give details, but there is a thread that gives all that information, down to the detail, if you look on this first page of this forum(dont think it was this thread). It goes thru all the features showing what is in, and what isnt. A substantial list of key items are missing from the implementation of game.
So like I said...it is classic definition of a scam. The very epitome according to webster.
The only reason I commented in thread is cause so many folks are using their own definition of "scam" vs what one in actuality is. Including yourself.
Now spare us the hung over excuse, as you spoke when you shouldnt of. You wanna argue with someone, then take it up with Webster and the English language. Sheesh


 


LOL i stopped reading after you called me a fanboi. I wouldn't touch this pig with a 800 ft poker HAHA..

Ok read some of it. Yeah i'm sure it's AV's intent to get people to buy the game.. Since in reality it's almost impossible to actually do so. Maybe they just haven't had time to update their site.

I listened.
 

I listened to you try to explain away how you screwed up. Toe jam tasting good this morning? Looks like you got a nice bite of it having stuck your foot in your mouth like ya did.

You got something else to say? I didnt think so. Know what you are talking about before opening the yap next time, and there wont be a problem.

And to the person wanting a citation...I gave the exact definition earlier in thread. If you wanna look it up yourself then http://www.m-w.com/  is your animal.

Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.

  Copeland

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4/09/09 6:00:21 AM#155

Anyway i'm out.

It's not a scam. It's poorly run company that launched a poorly developed mmo and they had no prior experience with either running a company or producing a game.

Honestly most of us are just amazed they actually got to this point.

There's no defense for stupid. You either are or you aren't. Being stupid and expecting someone to care that you were that stupid doesn't mean that we have to care. Actually it probably means we'll be laughing our asses off at you as you cry WAH it's a SCAM!

  Copeland

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4/09/09 6:02:59 AM#156


Originally posted by Moaky07

Originally posted by Copeland

 



Originally posted by Moaky07


Originally posted by Copeland
 
 
 

Originally posted by Irishoak
Slander is spoken, libel is usually written, even in Florida.  Florida recognizes "opinion" as a defense.



 
True. It's libel not slander.
Anyway it was just a thought that creeped into my hungover head at 5am so take it for what it's worth.. not much LOL
I just love that people jump to "it's a scam" because it gets off to rough start or the company is doing whatever it needs to get off the ground.
Sure it's near impossible to buy the game. It's full of hackers and bugs.
I honestly don't see anything unusual or unexpected in anything that has transpired with this launch. As a matter of fact i recall pre-launch that AV said there would be limited quantities available and that they could only afford to have 1 server up at launch.



 
 
Listen fanboi...I dont give a ratz arse one way or another about DF. For the sake of its players I hope it succeeds, as I am a fellow gamer. I sure havent spent my time trolling you guys since launch.
That is neither here nor there...the point in question is "what is a scam". DF is selling their game with information found on their web site that is totally offbase for their actual game. Things that have been cut, and not going to reappear are being displayed as of yet.
I cant give details, but there is a thread that gives all that information, down to the detail, if you look on this first page of this forum(dont think it was this thread). It goes thru all the features showing what is in, and what isnt. A substantial list of key items are missing from the implementation of game.
So like I said...it is classic definition of a scam. The very epitome according to webster.
The only reason I commented in thread is cause so many folks are using their own definition of "scam" vs what one in actuality is. Including yourself.
Now spare us the hung over excuse, as you spoke when you shouldnt of. You wanna argue with someone, then take it up with Webster and the English language. Sheesh



 

LOL i stopped reading after you called me a fanboi. I wouldn't touch this pig with a 800 ft poker HAHA..
Ok read some of it. Yeah i'm sure it's AV's intent to get people to buy the game.. Since in reality it's almost impossible to actually do so. Maybe they just haven't had time to update their site.



I listened.
 
I listened to you try to explain away how you screwed up. Toe jam tasting good this morning? Looks like you got a nice bite of it having stuck your foot in your mouth like ya did.
You got something else to say? I didnt think so. Know what you are talking about before opening the yap next time, and there wont be a problem.
And to the person wanting a citation...I gave the exact definition earlier in thread. If you wanna look it up yourself then http://www.m-w.com/  is your animal.

Seriously man you have issues. Arguing over a horrible game on the internet with a drunk guy who's just amazed that anyone with half a brain cell would purchase this game in the first place.

  Moaky07

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4/09/09 6:15:40 AM#157
Originally posted by Copeland

Anyway i'm out.

It's not a scam. It's poorly run company that launched a poorly developed mmo and they had no prior experience with either running a company or producing a game.

Honestly most of us are just amazed they actually got to this point.

There's no defense for stupid. You either are or you aren't. Being stupid and expecting someone to care that you were that stupid doesn't mean that we have to care. Actually it probably means we'll be laughing our asses off at you as you cry WAH it's a SCAM!

 


 

Boy I gotta hand it to ya...you really are as pig headed as you are ignorant.

Shown by definition you are wrong. Yet still carrying on convinced you are "correct".

To think you have the audacity to call others "stupid". heh

"Hopeless" should be your forum handle methinks. You can lead a horse to water so to speak....

Anyways like I indicated...athough the OP was technically correct, it was an obvious troll post.

I have no clue which way your game is going to go DFers. For your sakes, I hope it does well. But until Tacos removes that web page he is scamming folks into playing his game.

The web site should be offering facts...not things that have been removed, and have no chance of ever being included as it has been stated on forums otherwise. It may indeed be a technicality...but it is what it is...and that is scamming folks.

Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.

  Polarization

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4/09/09 6:25:15 AM#158

Darkfall is not a scam because I'm enjoying the game because its the best game evar, so its not a scam.

Every single other MMO has had all the same exact launch problems as Darkfall and most were even worse so stop whining, LOL at ignorant WoW players.

I actually did "research" on the game before buying it, LOL at anyone who did not do "research" on a game before buying it, instead of foolishly just looking at the official website and reading its FAQ or stupidly reading any of the last 8 years of official information released by the developers about Darkfall and thinking even half of all those features and content would actually be implemented.

LOL at all the jealous haters and blizzard employees who come to this forum to troll and lie about this wonderful awesome hardcore adrenaline rush game that's such a threat to their care bare games.

Pathetic that all the no lifers come here to criticise this game all day, all the successful,intelligent, rational and objective common sense fans of this game who actually have life's are forced to spend their valuable time correcting all the lies and misinformation instead of playing this incredible next generation revolutionary advanced ground breaking game when the server is up or doing any of the other things successful, intelligent rational and objective common sense fans of this game do when they are not playing this game when the server is up or defending it on internet forums from the WoW playing troll haters and their lies.

Aventurine are a small independent game developer working hard every day to bring us the best game ever for a premium price plus the industry standard monthly subscription cost , LOL at anyone who was expecting unnecessary things from care bare game developers like professionalism, competence, community relations and customer/technical support.

Its not a scam because i like it.

  Copeland

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4/09/09 6:31:09 AM#159


Originally posted by Moaky07

Originally posted by Copeland

Anyway i'm out.
It's not a scam. It's poorly run company that launched a poorly developed mmo and they had no prior experience with either running a company or producing a game.
Honestly most of us are just amazed they actually got to this point.
There's no defense for stupid. You either are or you aren't. Being stupid and expecting someone to care that you were that stupid doesn't mean that we have to care. Actually it probably means we'll be laughing our asses off at you as you cry WAH it's a SCAM!
 


 
Boy I gotta hand it to ya...you really are as pig headed as you are ignorant.
Shown by definition you are wrong. Yet still carrying on convinced you are "correct".
To think you have the audacity to call others "stupid". heh
"Hopeless" should be your forum handle methinks. You can lead a horse to water so to speak....
Anyways like I indicated...athough the OP was technically correct, it was an obvious troll post.
I have no clue which way your game is going to go DFers. For your sakes, I hope it does well. But until Tacos removes that web page he is scamming folks into playing his game.
The web site should be offering facts...not things that have been removed, and have no chance of ever being included as it has been stated on forums otherwise. It may indeed be a technicality...but it is what it is...and that is scamming folks.


"I said I'm going to get extra meat this time. But he didn't even put extra shrimp in there," the woman told a 911 dispatcher. "I asked him, 'Can I get any extra shrimp, or can you give my money back?' And he started hollering. So I just said, 'I'm going to call the police.'"

  Copeland

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4/09/09 6:32:26 AM#160


Originally posted by Polarization
Darkfall is not a scam because I'm enjoying the game because its the best game evar, so its not a scam.
Every single other MMO has had all the same exact launch problems as Darkfall and most were even worse so stop whining, LOL at ignorant WoW players.
I actually did "research" on the game before buying it, LOL at anyone who did not do "research" on a game before buying it, instead of foolishly just looking at the official website and reading its FAQ or stupidly reading any of the last 8 years of official information released by the developers about Darkfall and thinking even half of all those features and content would actually be implemented.
LOL at all the jealous haters and blizzard employees who come to this forum to troll and lie about this wonderful awesome hardcore adrenaline rush game that's such a threat to their care bare games.
Pathetic that all the no lifers come here to criticise this game all day, all the successful,intelligent, rational and objective common sense fans of this game who actually have life's are forced to spend their valuable time correcting all the lies and misinformation instead of playing this incredible next generation revolutionary advanced ground breaking game when the servers are up or doing any of the other things successful, intelligent rational and objective common sense fans of this game do when they are not playing this game when the servers are up or defending it on internet forums from the WoW playing troll haters and their lies.
Aventurine are a small independent game developer working hard every day to bring us the best game ever for a premium price plus the industry standard monthly subscription cost , LOL at anyone who was expecting unnecessary things from care bare game developers like professionalism, competence, community relations and customer/technical support.
Its not a scam because i like it.

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