What guilds got the cities:

Lod- Well know guild. Got the first city. They were amongst the prospects to get the first.

SUN- Tons of guys in beta. Well known guild. Expected to do well.

Drunken Beggars- New guild. Well organized. In beta.

Winterblades- Well organized. In beta. Well known SB guild.

Redemption- Well known SB guild.

Societas Demonica- Well known SB guild

Anyone see a pattern here? You are gonna have to step your game up if you wanna play with the big boys. It wasn't exploiting. It was what was given to us on day one. My guild stayed up for 16 hours straight farming. We got 3 Vailron keys.

Most guilds simply aren't gonna cut it. The cries of your misery will only get worse as you realize this isn't WOW and it definately isn't forgiving.

Stop crying for a reroll. Not ever gonna happen. Step your game up.

mostly true

even if there werent any sync issues and everything was running 100%

the same exact thing would of happened, probably just as fast

Originally posted by undiesusa

 My guild stayed up for 16 hours straight farming. We got 3 Vailron keys.

That sounds like so much fun!! Where do I sign up!!

So then there's nothing wrong with devs fixing everyone's mindset and telling them there will be a wipe to fix issies. Weekend is coming up and with the preorders being fixed more it will be more fair to everyone.

Originally posted by Kien

Originally posted by undiesusa

 My guild stayed up for 16 hours straight farming. We got 3 Vailron keys.

 

That sounds like so much fun!! Where do I sign up!!

I was typing the exact same thing.

16 hours of attacking the same non-moving mobs? Hardcore innovative gameplay at it's best.  

Originally posted by undiesusa

What guilds got the cities:

Lod- Well know guild. Got the first city. They were amongst the prospects to get the first.

SUN- Tons of guys in beta. Well known guild. Expected to do well.

Drunken Beggars- New guild. Well organized. In beta.

Winterblades- Well organized. In beta. Well known SB guild.

Redemption- Well known SB guild.

Societas Demonica- Well known SB guild

 

Anyone see a pattern here? You are gonna have to step your game up if you wanna play with the big boys. It wasn't exploiting. It was what was given to us on day one. My guild stayed up for 16 hours straight farming. We got 3 Vailron keys.

Most guilds simply aren't gonna cut it. The cries of your misery will only get worse as you realize this isn't WOW and it definately isn't forgiving.

Stop crying for a reroll. Not ever gonna happen. Step your game up.

Oh really.  I'm not going to say which one, but one of those guilds was sending out a macro program to new members in beta  so they could be ready for launch to do just what they did.   And another of  those guilds spent the last 24hrs camping a high level mob that was bugging out every 8 seconds after it spawned.  Two of those guilds (that I know of) have totally exploited to get their cities.  Yes, they were all in beta, and that is exactly why they had hacks/exploits ready and waiting for launch.

What til the PVP really starts and they start using the speed hacks they have ready.

Those guilds aren't building cities because of the 'experience' they had in beta, they are building cities because they had their hacks/exploits all ready because they were in beta.

If you cant beat them join them !  . If not , we are lucky the worlds so big , lots of places to hide

Originally posted by undiesusa

What guilds got the cities:

Lod- Well know guild. Got the first city. They were amongst the prospects to get the first.

SUN- Tons of guys in beta. Well known guild. Expected to do well.

Drunken Beggars- New guild. Well organized. In beta.

Winterblades- Well organized. In beta. Well known SB guild.

Redemption- Well known SB guild.

Societas Demonica- Well known SB guild

 

Anyone see a pattern here? You are gonna have to step your game up if you wanna play with the big boys. It wasn't exploiting. It was what was given to us on day one. My guild stayed up for 16 hours straight farming. We got 3 Vailron keys.

Most guilds simply aren't gonna cut it. The cries of your misery will only get worse as you realize this isn't WOW and it definately isn't forgiving.

Stop crying for a reroll. Not ever gonna happen. Step your game up.

Sounds to me like you are advocating 5-6 guilds get to run the game, everyone else, go somewhere else. This wouldn't be good for the long term health of the game.

Originally posted by AshenHand

Originally posted by Kien

Originally posted by undiesusa

 My guild stayed up for 16 hours straight farming. We got 3 Vailron keys.

 

That sounds like so much fun!! Where do I sign up!!

 

I was typing the exact same thing.

 

16 hours of attacking the same non-moving mobs? Hardcore innovative gameplay at it's best.  

You deal with the hand you have been dealt and make the best of it.

We know this game is gonna be epic as anything every made. I was a closed Darkfall beta tester. Been playing for about 4 months. Everyone who didn't get their shit up quick is gonna be super pissed when we all have our crafters built up and are running around in crafted scale armor curb stomping every little pissant guild that comes along.

And my guild isn't much compared to the hardcoreness of LOD. Those guys didn't sleep for I believe days.

Games like these take a heavy initial commitment and then taper off. But your fucked if you don't get in quick. Not having a city screws you.

Originally posted by Bill_pull

Originally posted by undiesusa

What guilds got the cities:

Lod- Well know guild. Got the first city. They were amongst the prospects to get the first.

SUN- Tons of guys in beta. Well known guild. Expected to do well.

Drunken Beggars- New guild. Well organized. In beta.

Winterblades- Well organized. In beta. Well known SB guild.

Redemption- Well known SB guild.

Societas Demonica- Well known SB guild

 

Anyone see a pattern here? You are gonna have to step your game up if you wanna play with the big boys. It wasn't exploiting. It was what was given to us on day one. My guild stayed up for 16 hours straight farming. We got 3 Vailron keys.

Most guilds simply aren't gonna cut it. The cries of your misery will only get worse as you realize this isn't WOW and it definately isn't forgiving.

Stop crying for a reroll. Not ever gonna happen. Step your game up.

 

Oh really.  I'm not going to say which one, but one of those guilds was sending out a macro program to new members in beta  so they could be ready for launch to do just what they did.   And another of  those guilds spent the last 24hrs camping a high level mob that was bugging out every 8 seconds after it spawned.  Two of those guilds (that I know of) have totally exploited to get their cities.  Yes, they were all in beta, and that is exactly why they had hacks/exploits ready and waiting for launch.

What til the PVP really starts and they start using the speed hacks they have ready.

Those guilds aren't building cities because of the 'experience' they had in beta, they are building cities because they had their hacks/exploits all ready because they were in beta.

You obviously weren't in beta. The Sync errors were fixed in beta. Mobs were fixed in beta.

MACROING is LEGIT. They have no problem with it.

The fact is the sync errors fucked everything from mobs to players, and the guilds from beta and the guilds that know how to really get their shit together, ADAPTED, and overcame the ingame issues to get cities ahead of all of you.

And no to the guy saying I am advocating certain guilds running the game. What I am saying is "quit whining" and get your shit together.

With the current mindset from the huge % of players about aventurine, if they don't do something to show they care how players feel about problems that were used to players advantages, it will not go as well as they hoped because that issue never leaves.

One problem with a wipe is that these guilds already showed their intentions on which cities they were going for.    

When a race in involved, its not fair to punish any guild that got their city in a legitimate way.    If they can figure out exactly 100 percent which guilds made huge gains unfairly than I would support knocking them down a step or two but only if they were 100 percent sure and not just taking a stab in the dark at it.

How can anyone consider this game hardcore?

The only thing anyone has done so far is kill mobs that don't fight back.

I don't doubt your list and LoD is a solid guild but ninja fighting and farming stuck mobs is not an honest way to get your city. It's not an issue of if they cheated its the issue that if any of them cheated there should be a wipe or disband of any of the confirmed cheaters as a guild and they can just as easily do it again in 4 hours on a stable server maybe even in less time.  I simply would like to see anyne that can be confirmed using the expliots booted. Not the whole guild just the ones that took unfair advantage of a flaw.

Originally posted by GoodBadUgly

One problem with a wipe is that these guilds already showed their intentions on which cities they were going for.    

When a race in involved, its not fair to punish any guild that got their city in a legitimate way.    If they can figure out exactly 100 percent which guilds made huge gains unfairly than I would support knocking them down a step or two but only if they were 100 percent sure and not just taking a stab in the dark at it.

But these clans claim they did it legit so they can take it over again. Most of the clans that got created already allied with each other anyways. I'm sure there won't be problems with city spots.

Originally posted by undiesusa

Originally posted by AshenHand

Originally posted by Kien

Originally posted by undiesusa

 My guild stayed up for 16 hours straight farming. We got 3 Vailron keys.

 

That sounds like so much fun!! Where do I sign up!!

 

I was typing the exact same thing.

 

16 hours of attacking the same non-moving mobs? Hardcore innovative gameplay at it's best.  

 

You deal with the hand you have been dealt and make the best of it.

We know this game is gonna be epic as anything every made. I was a closed Darkfall beta tester. Been playing for about 4 months. Everyone who didn't get their shit up quick is gonna be super pissed when we all have our crafters built up and are running around in crafted scale armor curb stomping every little pissant guild that comes along.

And my guild isn't much compared to the hardcoreness of LOD. Those guys didn't sleep for I believe days.

Games like these take a heavy initial commitment and then taper off. But your fucked if you don't get in quick. Not having a city screws you.

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well when 2nd sever up leave this one to the zergs and more power to them,and there was way tomuch exploiting by some betaplayers{ not the majority} these were known issues from previous builds which probaly entered back into game in launch patches that were set for stability. though a 16 hour rollback at this point would be best bet.

Lol this is sad, aventurine doesn't really give a fuck guys, this isn't blizzard or some big named company, aventurine obviously doesn't want many people playing this game if you couldn't tell.. they just want a small family player base ( lulz ) because this game wasn't ment to handle any more than probably 4 thousand, they are complete dicks and semi assholes ever since existance of this game because they don't want millions of people playing this because they CANT and they game wasnt  ment to handle it. so these "guilds" will get away with it all it doesn't matter they don't care... 

Hopefully a big boy company will take up the idea and make a game for everyone, and not a small little club.

Originally posted by AshenHand

Originally posted by undiesusa

Originally posted by AshenHand

Originally posted by Kien

Originally posted by undiesusa

 My guild stayed up for 16 hours straight farming. We got 3 Vailron keys.

 

That sounds like so much fun!! Where do I sign up!!

 

I was typing the exact same thing.

 

16 hours of attacking the same non-moving mobs? Hardcore innovative gameplay at it's best.  

 

You deal with the hand you have been dealt and make the best of it.

We know this game is gonna be epic as anything every made. I was a closed Darkfall beta tester. Been playing for about 4 months. Everyone who didn't get their shit up quick is gonna be super pissed when we all have our crafters built up and are running around in crafted scale armor curb stomping every little pissant guild that comes along.

And my guild isn't much compared to the hardcoreness of LOD. Those guys didn't sleep for I believe days.

Games like these take a heavy initial commitment and then taper off. But your fucked if you don't get in quick. Not having a city screws you.

 

 

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That is genuinely funny.

Haha Ashenhand. If you made that up I applaud you, very funny! Lol!

I think a fair solution for both sides would be to close the servers until these exploits are fixed, then reopen them.

The 'sloiters keep they ill gotten gains (even though it was just a day's worth), but it would end now. That way, they are not far enough ahead to make much difference.

They shut the servers down for a week to get it done, fine, just hand out the downtime as additional an every registered account at the time of shutdown.

No wipe, fixed 'sloits, and refunded game time for the time it takes to do so.

It's worth a few days delay to get things fixed for long term, not to mention, after what? 8 Years? That's nothing.