This whole DFO thing is funny.  I have an interest in the game but I am choosing to wait a few weeks to see what kind of progress is going to be made before I even think about buying it.

     On one hand you have people, like some in this thread, that are AV fluffers in the background keeping smiles on the devs faces.  On the other hand you have people that for some reason have this mentality that because they think they know, or have friends uncles that know, that the game sucks and they have this innate need to see it burn in the ninth ring of hell.

     Then there is the OP.  He comes on here and gives an honest opinion about what is going on with the game bringing out all this hostility from both sides.  Every single post that even has DFO anywhere in it ends up like this.  It really is sad.  After all the shinies are no longer shiny and everything is old hat the community makes the game in my opinion.  The community keeps the game going and so far from what I've read this game has zero longevity beyond the point where the shinies fade.

Originally posted by mcburly

Originally posted by goofy3k

Originally posted by mcburly

Originally posted by goofy3k

Originally posted by mcburly

Originally posted by goofy3k

Originally posted by mcburly

lololololol I love the fanbois of darkfall. the OP goes out and gives his opinion on the game and they come out and bash the shit out of his post. I think they are getting angry cause deep down they know so far the success of DF is not looking good. LOVE IT.......need more popcorn

 

He gets bashed for the reasons which are clear. And we are angry, because stupid fools come post retarded posts. And i like how you say so far, gg. No one has said things are going perfect, but time will tell. Once those who like the game are playing everything will be ok. The legacy will live on though, people like you will continue to post lame messages of doom like for all previous games. People will still play though, and life will go on.

you tell it fanbois. the LEGACY will live on through you!!!!! let AV lead you to the path of GLORY that is darkFAIL

 

How so? We will be playing a game we enjoy, you'll be posting this same crap whenever you hear darkfall. YOU will be the lame ones.

OOOH BURN. u are sooooo getting under my skin. funny though cause you are here posting right now when you can play your holy grail of mmos right now

 

Im here posting cause people like you get under my skin.

im glad i can help you expose your vunerability to ppl making negative comments about your beloved darkfall. I wouldnt even be bothered about that if ppl were talking shit about my friends or a close relative. But such is the way of DF fanbois.....mhmm gooood popcorn

May you pass the tears.. ahh i mean salt?

Originally posted by SpyridonZ

The flaw in your thinking is that you play a game at RELEASE and call it a FAILURE. You can NOT call an MMO a failure until you play it after its been released 1 year +. Then it is the time to judge.

Most games are actually successes, and some like Tabula Rasa actually are failures. But notice when they announced TR was going to shut down? Exactly 1 year in. As I said, you cant judge an MMO until then.

So let me get this straight.

You are basically saying that no one should buy the box nor subscribe when an MMO launches, but wait a year first.

You expect the game to be still around by then? Without any customers and thus income, because all the customers are advised to wait a year after launch to start buying and paying.

Uhmm.... right.

Originally posted by rideya

Originally posted by goofy3k

Originally posted by rideya

Originally posted by goofy3k

Originally posted by mcburly

Originally posted by goofy3k

Originally posted by mcburly

lololololol I love the fanbois of darkfall. the OP goes out and gives his opinion on the game and they come out and bash the shit out of his post. I think they are getting angry cause deep down they know so far the success of DF is not looking good. LOVE IT.......need more popcorn

 

He gets bashed for the reasons which are clear. And we are angry, because stupid fools come post retarded posts. And i like how you say so far, gg. No one has said things are going perfect, but time will tell. Once those who like the game are playing everything will be ok. The legacy will live on though, people like you will continue to post lame messages of doom like for all previous games. People will still play though, and life will go on.

you tell it fanbois. the LEGACY will live on through you!!!!! let AV lead you to the path of GLORY that is darkFAIL

 

How so? We will be playing a game we enjoy, you'll be posting this same crap whenever you hear darkfall. YOU will be the lame ones.

 

Curious...

Why aren't you playing now?

 

Havent i said already, or are you just too stupid to read? Go learn to read and perhaps the answer will become clear.

 

Oh and lol.

All I see is some fan going all "Leave Darkfall Alone!!!" on us because his precious is getting bombarded with actual critiques. Do all these problems others are pointing out worry you?

Because, as you yourself said, the true fans will play the game regardless... right?

Can you see your own ignorance? "All i see is some fan going all "leave darkfall alone!!!" GG tard. I guess you will fail to see what im showing you, such is the way of stupidity. He gave opinions about game mechanics that everyone knew already, as if they were some bad thing. Towers,going red blabla, these arent things wrong with the games, the only thing he said that was acceptable as critique was the sync issue.

Regardless? No i never said that, it seems you really do lack reading skills. I said we would be playing the game we enjoy, because we enjoy it, must i draw you a picture to make it clearer?

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by SpyridonZ

The flaw in your thinking is that you play a game at RELEASE and call it a FAILURE. You can NOT call an MMO a failure until you play it after its been released 1 year +. Then it is the time to judge.

Most games are actually successes, and some like Tabula Rasa actually are failures. But notice when they announced TR was going to shut down? Exactly 1 year in. As I said, you cant judge an MMO until then.

So let me get this straight.

You are basically saying that no one should buy the box nor subscribe when an MMO launches, but wait a year first.

You expect the game to be still around by then? Without any customers and thus income, because all the customers are advised to wait a year after launch to start buying and paying.

Uhmm.... right.

Ok im begining to think you are from prehistoric times. PLEASE, WHERE DID THIS GUY SAY DONT SUBSCRIBE AT LAUNCH? HE SAID JUDGE THE DAMN GAME ONCE ITS LAUNCHED AND BEEN OUT ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY PLAY THROUGH ALL THE FEATURES THAT ARE THERE.

Wow, i cannot believe the lack of intelligence you possess

Originally posted by goofy3k

 

Can you see your own ignorance? "All i see is some fan going all "leave darkfall alone!!!" GG tard. I guess you will fail to see what im showing you, such is the way of stupidity. He gave opinions about game mechanics that everyone knew already, as if they were some bad thing. Towers,going red blabla, these arent things wrong with the games, the only thing he said that was acceptable as critique was the sync issue.

Regardless? No i never said that, it seems you really do lack reading skills. I said we would be playing the game we enjoy, because we enjoy it, must i draw you a picture to make it clearer?

Well, From one of your earlier posts..

""Oh come on man, the guy says he was such a fan then he would of known half those things he posted BEFORE even pre ordering the game. He's just anothe lamer who needs his carebear game played for him. At the end of the day the people who like the game and real fans will still be there. You will be gone and all your likeminded ilk, back to lotr and wow haha."

Personally, I will be playing the game soon. However I like to have some objectivity when playing a new game.

Originally posted by goofy3k

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by SpyridonZ

The flaw in your thinking is that you play a game at RELEASE and call it a FAILURE. You can NOT call an MMO a failure until you play it after its been released 1 year +. Then it is the time to judge.

Most games are actually successes, and some like Tabula Rasa actually are failures. But notice when they announced TR was going to shut down? Exactly 1 year in. As I said, you cant judge an MMO until then.

So let me get this straight.

You are basically saying that no one should buy the box nor subscribe when an MMO launches, but wait a year first.

You expect the game to be still around by then? Without any customers and thus income, because all the customers are advised to wait a year after launch to start buying and paying.

Uhmm.... right.

 

Ok im begining to think you are from prehistoric times. PLEASE, WHERE DID THIS GUY SAY DONT SUBSCRIBE AT LAUNCH? HE SAID JUDGE THE DAMN GAME ONCE ITS LAUNCHED AND BEEN OUT ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY PLAY THROUGH ALL THE FEATURES THAT ARE THERE.

Wow, i cannot believe the lack of intelligence you possess

actually i think guillermo is trying to say that we should except a game being crap until a year passes and then its ok to call it crap. goofy you goofy

Originally p

Ok im begining to think you are from prehistoric times. PLEASE, WHERE DID THIS GUY SAY DONT SUBSCRIBE AT LAUNCH? HE SAID JUDGE THE DAMN GAME ONCE ITS LAUNCHED AND BEEN OUT ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY PLAY THROUGH ALL THE FEATURES THAT ARE THERE.

Wow, i cannot believe the lack of intelligence you possess

So, you're saying we should hold all opinions of a product we are spending our money on until a few months into the game's release?

No. Just no.

Originally posted by goofy3k

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by SpyridonZ

The flaw in your thinking is that you play a game at RELEASE and call it a FAILURE. You can NOT call an MMO a failure until you play it after its been released 1 year +. Then it is the time to judge.

Most games are actually successes, and some like Tabula Rasa actually are failures. But notice when they announced TR was going to shut down? Exactly 1 year in. As I said, you cant judge an MMO until then.

So let me get this straight.

You are basically saying that no one should buy the box nor subscribe when an MMO launches, but wait a year first.

You expect the game to be still around by then? Without any customers and thus income, because all the customers are advised to wait a year after launch to start buying and paying.

Uhmm.... right.

 

Ok im begining to think you are from prehistoric times. PLEASE, WHERE DID THIS GUY SAY DONT SUBSCRIBE AT LAUNCH? HE SAID JUDGE THE DAMN GAME ONCE ITS LAUNCHED AND BEEN OUT ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY PLAY THROUGH ALL THE FEATURES THAT ARE THERE.

Wow, i cannot believe the lack of intelligence you possess

Calm down. No need for capitals,is there?

Originally posted by rideya

Originally posted by goofy3k

 

Can you see your own ignorance? "All i see is some fan going all "leave darkfall alone!!!" GG tard. I guess you will fail to see what im showing you, such is the way of stupidity. He gave opinions about game mechanics that everyone knew already, as if they were some bad thing. Towers,going red blabla, these arent things wrong with the games, the only thing he said that was acceptable as critique was the sync issue.

Regardless? No i never said that, it seems you really do lack reading skills. I said we would be playing the game we enjoy, because we enjoy it, must i draw you a picture to make it clearer?

 

Well, From one of your earlier posts..

""Oh come on man, the guy says he was such a fan then he would of known half those things he posted BEFORE even pre ordering the game. He's just anothe lamer who needs his carebear game played for him. At the end of the day the people who like the game and real fans will still be there. You will be gone and all your likeminded ilk, back to lotr and wow haha."

 

Personally, I will be playing the game soon. However I like to have some objectivity when playing a new game.

 

Yes i know what i said, but what is your point? It failed to refute anything i stated. I will have objectivity too. Unfortunately for people like you, you're having it before you've even played.

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by SpyridonZ

The flaw in your thinking is that you play a game at RELEASE and call it a FAILURE. You can NOT call an MMO a failure until you play it after its been released 1 year +. Then it is the time to judge.

Most games are actually successes, and some like Tabula Rasa actually are failures. But notice when they announced TR was going to shut down? Exactly 1 year in. As I said, you cant judge an MMO until then.

So let me get this straight.

You are basically saying that no one should buy the box nor subscribe when an MMO launches, but wait a year first.

You expect the game to be still around by then? Without any customers and thus income, because all the customers are advised to wait a year after launch to start buying and paying.

Uhmm.... right.

No. If you want to completely twist my words just to argue, go for it, but your not making me look stupid, only yourself.

I basically said do not go in to the game with unreal expectations. If you expect an MMO game to be in great shape at release, your fooling yourself.

When I get an MMO, I plan to check it out for a month or two, but in all reality it would be foolish to think your going to be happy playing it for years at this point.

Some things will be broken. Some will be untested at the retail scale. Some things work out different in release (such as in WAR noone doing ORvR even tho there was loads of it in beta).

I also said its foolish to call a game a failure at release. Why? Because if you do that, you will be calling EVERY GAME a failure. Take the most successful MMO games ever - if it was released right now and the OP played it, he would likely call it a failure. But these are the same games that grew in to the best MMO's ever.

You could argue with me all you want, that's fine I do not mind.

But if you do so, start noticing the trend. A new MMO game comes out, you call it a failure and never go back, but notice how most of the time a year in people are saying the game improved and its actually good now.

If you still hold a grudge from the release not being what you expected, there is noone else to blame but yourself, because I warned you of those expectations.

When things play out exactly how I said they would, you will have your proof.

Originally posted by jimsmith08

Originally posted by goofy3k

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by SpyridonZ

The flaw in your thinking is that you play a game at RELEASE and call it a FAILURE. You can NOT call an MMO a failure until you play it after its been released 1 year +. Then it is the time to judge.

Most games are actually successes, and some like Tabula Rasa actually are failures. But notice when they announced TR was going to shut down? Exactly 1 year in. As I said, you cant judge an MMO until then.

So let me get this straight.

You are basically saying that no one should buy the box nor subscribe when an MMO launches, but wait a year first.

You expect the game to be still around by then? Without any customers and thus income, because all the customers are advised to wait a year after launch to start buying and paying.

Uhmm.... right.

 

Ok im begining to think you are from prehistoric times. PLEASE, WHERE DID THIS GUY SAY DONT SUBSCRIBE AT LAUNCH? HE SAID JUDGE THE DAMN GAME ONCE ITS LAUNCHED AND BEEN OUT ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY PLAY THROUGH ALL THE FEATURES THAT ARE THERE.

Wow, i cannot believe the lack of intelligence you possess

 

Calm down. No need for capitals,is there?

I had to resort to caps, because i cant draw him a diagram.

Originally posted by goofy3k

Yes i know what i said, but what is your point? It failed to refute anything i stated. I will have objectivity too. Unfortunately for people like you, you're having it before you've even played.

 

I am holding reservations on the actual game. However, I am allowed to comment on the failing launch of DF, and of the rabid attempts of fanboys like you to justify this game's obvious technical shortcomings when it comes to server code and actual manpower.

Are there server problems on launch days in the MMO world, yes!

Is it ever to a point where pre-orders themselves are incapable of even getting their card charged correctly?

lol no.

Originally posted by rideya

Originally posted by goofy3k

Yes i know what i said, but what is your point? It failed to refute anything i stated. I will have objectivity too. Unfortunately for people like you, you're having it before you've even played.

 

 

I am holding reservations on the actual game. However, I am allowed to comment on the failing launch of DF, and of the rabid attempts of fanboys like you to justify this game's obvious technical shortcomings when it comes to server code and actual manpower.

Are there server problems on launch days in the MMO world, yes!

Is it ever to a point where pre-orders themselves are incapable of even getting their card charged correctly?

lol no.

When did i say ANYTHING about darkfall launch was a success or that there was no technical shortcomings? You're just making crap up now cause you realise how stupid you are. Its no secret man, the launch went bad, im not argueing that. Server code and actual manpower, dont think i commented on that either. Think you need to take a SLOW (VERY) read over everything that has been said, cause now your just pulling out totally different arguements.

Hmm, the anger is strong in this tread.
But such is the fate of Darkfall themed threads i guess.

Originally posted by goofy3k

Originally posted by rideya

Originally posted by goofy3k

Yes i know what i said, but what is your point? It failed to refute anything i stated. I will have objectivity too. Unfortunately for people like you, you're having it before you've even played.

 

 

I am holding reservations on the actual game. However, I am allowed to comment on the failing launch of DF, and of the rabid attempts of fanboys like you to justify this game's obvious technical shortcomings when it comes to server code and actual manpower.

Are there server problems on launch days in the MMO world, yes!

Is it ever to a point where pre-orders themselves are incapable of even getting their card charged correctly?

lol no.

 

When did i say ANYTHING about darkfall launch was a success or that there was no technical shortcomings? You're just making crap up now cause you realise how stupid you are. Its no secret man, the launch went bad, im not argueing that. Server code and actual manpower, dont think i commented on that either. Think you need to take a SLOW (VERY) read over everything that has been said, cause now your just pulling out totally different arguements.

You were, however, justifying DF by claiming all the "hardcore" followers and "non-carebears" will play the game regardless of it's state, which you included yourself in. The OP gave his arguements (which I never personally said I totally agreed with) and you came on right away to call him a "carebear" and tell him to gtfo.

You have all the trappings of a cult (DF) follower.

Oh, and I apologize for swinging the arguement around to the sever code. I assumed too much on that point ;)

Originally posted by goofy3k

 

you fail at life

Wow.. real original.. Just like Darkfall..

This thread got scarey quick.  I think the OP stated very valid opinions.  You may agree or disagree with them, but calling out people as "Carebear" or "Stupid" , just allows yourself to look immature.  Everyone has opinions and I think the OP stated his in a fair manner.  If you don't agree, state the reason why.  Don't resort to name-calling.  It just makes you look inferior.