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  junzo316

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Joined: 2/19/07
Posts: 1582

2/27/09 1:57:56 AM#61
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by Thatim
Originally posted by Mothe
Originally posted by Mordrid

Difference here though between Blizzard and AV, WoW had hundreds of thousands trying to hit their servers. AV cannot even get ten thousand players successfully logged in.

 

if course that's another scale there. but remember, wow had more than one server opened at launch...

even today, the wow servers are very unstable when there are many people online (atleast in EU)

 

 

Bull crap.

 

My bro is still able to play on every server he is on, and it are all full servers. I myself used to play it too, with nog issues.

 

Yea, ill go back to WoW.

 

Does that mean you'll stop posting here then?

See ya!

go back to the DF forums! /evilgrin

/callsyouanerdforusingslashcommands

No.

 

that's because you can't...aventurine really has no cares for its players :P

 

Do you have daddy issues and feel neglected?  Need to project your feelings of abandonment on a game company?  It's okay dude, cry your tears.  Once you're done WoW will be waiting for you, where you can type your slash commands to your heart's content.

 

FACT: You =

 

nope but any company will agree..the first 24 hours is the most important for new customers, and if they are having technical issues you want to be there communicating with them. It's good business. How many other games can you say, on launch day, turned off their forums and said basically "here, we don't care what happens, we wont be communicating with you...good luck..and see you in a few days"

Is it safe to assume that you wont be a customer then?  In that case, can I also assume that you'll stop posting here?

See ya!

why would i stop posting here..these aren't game only forums....if you want Darkfall only forums...go to the darkfall forums....

OH WAIT!

and i am a potential customer, just waiting until they iron out the servers.....but.....wont be for at least 2-3 months before i seriously think of purchasing it again.

Ah, all of the tears coming from your eyes must be blocking your view.  This is in fact the Darkfall forum at MMORPG.com.  You must be looking for the 'Ex-fans who have nothing better to do than post the same rhetoric over and over again in a paltry attempt to make Darkfall look bad and turn people away from the game' forums.  I would look around the MMORPG.com general forums for that subtopic.

Will you at least do us the favor to stop posting for the 2-3 months before you decide if you want to buy the game again?  I can assure you that your cries for attention wont get heard by Aventurine here.

 

Or, apparently, anywhere.  Since the forums are down and they have closed off all communication...just saying.

  JCatano

Novice Member

Joined: 2/26/09
Posts: 17

2/27/09 1:59:40 AM#62
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by Mogernaut
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by Mothe

another fact: blizzard had the same problem, but of course not that big because they had the money... but nonetheless, they had real trouble getting the servers up and running because they underrated the demand

 

Yes, but this was 5 years ago and mmos were rather "new".... we are in 2009 now

 

Umm...check your facts, MMORPG's were not "new" in 2005.  Everquest had been out for 6 years at the point that WoW was released.

 

Guy, learn to "think" before missing the point.

First, "new" and "rather new" is not the same, is it?

The point being that, considering it takes 4+ years  to develop an mmo, yes you can say mmos were rather "new" in 2004 when WoW came out. It's not like you launch an mmo in 2001 and then launch another one in 2002. FYI Darkfall has been in development for 8 years....

How many mmos were there when WoW came out ? And how many are there today?

In 2004 they didn't have the knowledge, the technology and same access to server cluster infrastructures which are common things today. At worst, a launch in 2009 should be better than a launch in 2004.

 

 

Meridian 59 was the first 3D MMO.  1996.  MMOs have been around awhile.  EVE was released in 2003 and their server cluster beats any current MMO.  Easier with space, but still very impressive.

Anyway... Semantics.

  amish_farmer

Novice Member

Joined: 1/23/09
Posts: 54

2/27/09 2:01:20 AM#63
Originally posted by junzo316
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by Thatim
Originally posted by Mothe
Originally posted by Mordrid

Difference here though between Blizzard and AV, WoW had hundreds of thousands trying to hit their servers. AV cannot even get ten thousand players successfully logged in.

 

if course that's another scale there. but remember, wow had more than one server opened at launch...

even today, the wow servers are very unstable when there are many people online (atleast in EU)

 

 

Bull crap.

 

My bro is still able to play on every server he is on, and it are all full servers. I myself used to play it too, with nog issues.

 

Yea, ill go back to WoW.

 

Does that mean you'll stop posting here then?

See ya!

go back to the DF forums! /evilgrin

/callsyouanerdforusingslashcommands

No.

 

that's because you can't...aventurine really has no cares for its players :P

 

Do you have daddy issues and feel neglected?  Need to project your feelings of abandonment on a game company?  It's okay dude, cry your tears.  Once you're done WoW will be waiting for you, where you can type your slash commands to your heart's content.

 

FACT: You =

 

nope but any company will agree..the first 24 hours is the most important for new customers, and if they are having technical issues you want to be there communicating with them. It's good business. How many other games can you say, on launch day, turned off their forums and said basically "here, we don't care what happens, we wont be communicating with you...good luck..and see you in a few days"

Is it safe to assume that you wont be a customer then?  In that case, can I also assume that you'll stop posting here?

See ya!

why would i stop posting here..these aren't game only forums....if you want Darkfall only forums...go to the darkfall forums....

OH WAIT!

and i am a potential customer, just waiting until they iron out the servers.....but.....wont be for at least 2-3 months before i seriously think of purchasing it again.

Ah, all of the tears coming from your eyes must be blocking your view.  This is in fact the Darkfall forum at MMORPG.com.  You must be looking for the 'Ex-fans who have nothing better to do than post the same rhetoric over and over again in a paltry attempt to make Darkfall look bad and turn people away from the game' forums.  I would look around the MMORPG.com general forums for that subtopic.

Will you at least do us the favor to stop posting for the 2-3 months before you decide if you want to buy the game again?  I can assure you that your cries for attention wont get heard by Aventurine here.

 

Or, apparently, anywhere.  Since the forums are down and they have closed off all communication...just saying.

 

Email your tears to support@aventurine.gr, they're listening.

Just saying.

  junzo316

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/19/07
Posts: 1582

2/27/09 2:05:23 AM#64
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by junzo316
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by amish_farmer
Originally posted by Thatim
Originally posted by Mothe
Originally posted by Mordrid

Difference here though between Blizzard and AV, WoW had hundreds of thousands trying to hit their servers. AV cannot even get ten thousand players successfully logged in.

 

if course that's another scale there. but remember, wow had more than one server opened at launch...

even today, the wow servers are very unstable when there are many people online (atleast in EU)

 

 

Bull crap.

 

My bro is still able to play on every server he is on, and it are all full servers. I myself used to play it too, with nog issues.

 

Yea, ill go back to WoW.

 

Does that mean you'll stop posting here then?

See ya!

go back to the DF forums! /evilgrin

/callsyouanerdforusingslashcommands

No.

 

that's because you can't...aventurine really has no cares for its players :P

 

Do you have daddy issues and feel neglected?  Need to project your feelings of abandonment on a game company?  It's okay dude, cry your tears.  Once you're done WoW will be waiting for you, where you can type your slash commands to your heart's content.

 

FACT: You =

 

nope but any company will agree..the first 24 hours is the most important for new customers, and if they are having technical issues you want to be there communicating with them. It's good business. How many other games can you say, on launch day, turned off their forums and said basically "here, we don't care what happens, we wont be communicating with you...good luck..and see you in a few days"

Is it safe to assume that you wont be a customer then?  In that case, can I also assume that you'll stop posting here?

See ya!

why would i stop posting here..these aren't game only forums....if you want Darkfall only forums...go to the darkfall forums....

OH WAIT!

and i am a potential customer, just waiting until they iron out the servers.....but.....wont be for at least 2-3 months before i seriously think of purchasing it again.

Ah, all of the tears coming from your eyes must be blocking your view.  This is in fact the Darkfall forum at MMORPG.com.  You must be looking for the 'Ex-fans who have nothing better to do than post the same rhetoric over and over again in a paltry attempt to make Darkfall look bad and turn people away from the game' forums.  I would look around the MMORPG.com general forums for that subtopic.

Will you at least do us the favor to stop posting for the 2-3 months before you decide if you want to buy the game again?  I can assure you that your cries for attention wont get heard by Aventurine here.

 

Or, apparently, anywhere.  Since the forums are down and they have closed off all communication...just saying.

 

Email your tears to support@aventurine.gr, they're listening.

Just saying.

 

That's my point, if you would care to listen.  They aren't listening.  To you, or anyone.  All communication has ceased, which is horrible for a new MMO company.  I fear this game may go the way of Vanguard, if Adventurine keeps failing the way it has.  Just my opinion...

 

  BigMango

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/10/06
Posts: 1780

2/27/09 2:15:05 AM#65
Originally posted by JCatano
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by Mogernaut
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by Mothe

another fact: blizzard had the same problem, but of course not that big because they had the money... but nonetheless, they had real trouble getting the servers up and running because they underrated the demand

 

Yes, but this was 5 years ago and mmos were rather "new".... we are in 2009 now

 

Umm...check your facts, MMORPG's were not "new" in 2005.  Everquest had been out for 6 years at the point that WoW was released.

 

Guy, learn to "think" before missing the point.

First, "new" and "rather new" is not the same, is it?

The point being that, considering it takes 4+ years  to develop an mmo, yes you can say mmos were rather "new" in 2004 when WoW came out. It's not like you launch an mmo in 2001 and then launch another one in 2002. FYI Darkfall has been in development for 8 years....

How many mmos were there when WoW came out ? And how many are there today?

In 2004 they didn't have the knowledge, the technology and same access to server cluster infrastructures which are common things today. At worst, a launch in 2009 should be better than a launch in 2004.

 

 

Meridian 59 was the first 3D MMO.  1996.  MMOs have been around awhile.  EVE was released in 2003 and their server cluster beats any current MMO.  Easier with space, but still very impressive.

Anyway... Semantics.

Nice, didn't know about Meridian, so that makes 1 more before Everquest came out in 1999. This doesn't sound like there were dozens of mmorpgs, does it?

Does that make mmorpgs a common thing for that time? Compared to the 100+ we have today?

The point still stands. An mmorpg launch should be a common thing today. In 2004 they were still learning about the technology. A 2009 launch should be better than a 2004 launch.

Today there are dozens of mmorpg engines readily available to the developers. In 2000 when Wow was in development they were still learning how to do things.

As for EVE, in 2003 they didn't have the cluster they have today. As the years go by they learn and improve the technology. Just a could months ago they moved part of the cluster to 64bit. As you say, the Eve cluster is impressive.

-> What is readily available today was not in 2000-2004 when wow came out. It was still "rather new" compared to today.

 

  DeadDingo

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Joined: 4/30/08
Posts: 210

Check out FallenEarth.com! Now with more Zombies!

2/27/09 2:15:55 AM#66

FACT:  The OP doesn't know how to spell official

  oddjobs74

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Joined: 3/21/07
Posts: 597

2/27/09 2:19:29 AM#67

Fact: Tasos is the Jedi Master of Smedly

  DeadDingo

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Posts: 210

Check out FallenEarth.com! Now with more Zombies!

2/27/09 2:21:10 AM#68

FACT:  SOE is looking to pick up this disaster of a game.

  Lughsan

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Joined: 5/08/06
Posts: 316

2/27/09 2:25:26 AM#69

That's my point, if you would care to listen.  They aren't listening.  To you, or anyone.  All communication has ceased, which is horrible for a new MMO company.  I fear this game may go the way of Vanguard, if Adventurine keeps failing the way it has.  Just my opinion...

 

 

 

Sorry Brad but Smedly isn't going to buy your shit this time. 

  Abmadul

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Joined: 9/08/06
Posts: 9

No Quote Pleaze....

2/27/09 2:33:57 AM#70

Is that a fact? Now that could possibly explain a few things about the way they have been acting latly,,,,,, if it is as you say a fact.

Eyþór Á.

  junzo316

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Joined: 2/19/07
Posts: 1582

2/27/09 11:10:37 AM#71

I would hope that isn't a fact. (I call BS).  But, if it does happen, I predict that DF would become just another "Cookie-Cutter" MMO.  They would change its core mechanics to appeal to a broader customer base. On the other hand, you would have micro-transactions. 

  Dullahan

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Joined: 5/20/05
Posts: 92

2/27/09 11:25:54 AM#72
Originally posted by Random_mage

I'm looking for Facts about Darkfall, I've seen many fanboys post that Aventurine wasn't expecting this many accounts to be created, but how is that not to be expected when the beta sign up hit 200k?

So, I thought I'd start a fact thread.

FACT: Aventurine KNEW there would be a large demand for their product

FACT: Aventurine was not ready for that load

FACT: Darkfall IS NOT STABLE


 

FACT: Facts are usually substantiated with evidence.

FACT: Nothing to see here.

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Played EQ, DAoC, AO, WoW, Vanguard, Ryzom, Darkfall, Mortal Online and others I don't remember or care to admit.

  Random_mage

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Joined: 8/15/08
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2/27/09 11:37:40 AM#73
Originally posted by Dullahan
Originally posted by Random_mage

I'm looking for Facts about Darkfall, I've seen many fanboys post that Aventurine wasn't expecting this many accounts to be created, but how is that not to be expected when the beta sign up hit 200k?

So, I thought I'd start a fact thread.

FACT: Aventurine KNEW there would be a large demand for their product

FACT: Aventurine was not ready for that load

FACT: Darkfall IS NOT STABLE


 

FACT: Facts are usually substantiated with evidence.

FACT: Nothing to see here.


 

FACT: You are in capable of reading.

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  thinktank001

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Joined: 12/13/08
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2/27/09 12:14:37 PM#74

Fact:   DF has failed to deliver and is still catorgized under  " VAPORWARE ".

 

Fact:  A failed release and with the high number of players exploiting the synch issue; Adventurine's only chance at saving face is to do a server wipe, and re-release the game.

 

Other Beta Proven Facts:

- DF is gear based and not skill based

- DF is a grind game

- DF melee combat is LMB clickfest.

- DF crafting is not impressive

- DF is an empty but nice to look at world.

- DF fanbois are easily entertained.

  FlukeThat

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Joined: 2/27/09
Posts: 5

2/27/09 12:31:56 PM#75

Fact:  I paid for the game and 30 days free. 

Gut Feeling:  I will get more than 30 days of free play time.

Hunch:  This game will be around longer than Warhammer Online.

  Teiman

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Joined: 2/29/08
Posts: 1327

2/27/09 1:06:07 PM#76

FACT: Most FACT threads are full of in-fighting.

  vidiotking

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Joined: 4/05/08
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one in the bush is better than one in the hand.

2/27/09 1:06:58 PM#77
Originally posted by Mystik86
Originally posted by Fusion

FACT: Never pre-order or buy an MMORPG on the day of the release, be patient and wait for ATLEAST a month so they can iron SOME of the problems THEY ALL EXPERIENCE ON LAUNCH!

 

That's not a fact it's a suggestion.

FACT: I am not a crook.

FACT: This is a pay-to-beta/pay-to-stress test. I agree they should have done an open-beta which should still be going on because clearly there's some huge issues causing people to get all hot and bothered.

FACT: Pie is delicious.

OK OK, hold on here......

Pie is not ALWAYS delicious! Boston Cream pie, yes, delicious. Apple pie? not really my cup of tea. Cherry pie, same thing, not my cup of tea. NOT DELICIOUS! Pecan pie, delicious.

Same holds true of mmo's, not all delicious. Problems aside, will DF be delicious. Dunno.

Jebus people get a grip!

  Cik_Asalin

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Joined: 8/29/04
Posts: 3091

2/27/09 1:09:48 PM#78
Originally posted by gnlLucid

FACT: DarkFall is NOT released.

Well, now its not. But fact is that the release took place as reported it would by Tacos, though a day late:

MMORPG.com:

There had been some speculation that there are plans to push the launch date further back than the originally announced 25th date. Can you tell us if there is any truth to this?

Tasos:

Consistent with the usual speculation sources, there’s no truth to this.
www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/4/view/news/read/12976/Darkfall-Interview.html

 

Then Darkfall crashed and burned.  /shrug

 

  Hairysun

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Joined: 6/11/05
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Boo......

2/27/09 1:11:54 PM#79
Originally posted by BigMango
Originally posted by Kyoufu

FACT: Bears eat Beets.

FACT: Bears beets battlestar galactica

 

FACT: you are bored.

 

 

FACT: This is a Board.

 

~Hairysun~

 

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  xbellx777

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2/27/09 1:13:33 PM#80
Originally posted by TalRasha
Originally posted by Mothe

another fact: blizzard had the same problem, but of course not that big because they had the money... but nonetheless, they had real trouble getting the servers up and running because they underrated the demand

 

(sorry for bad english, isn't my native language ;))


 

This is indeed also a fact (part anyway).

But is missing information. Blizzard did indeed have more money than AV, but not lots more. WoW is also the first mmorpg product that Blizzard had released. The money they had was from their free to play (buy on purchase) expansions of Diablo arpg, Starcraft, and the Warcraft strategy games.

Wich makes the situations almost identical, except Blizzard fixed it. Now lets just see if Aventurine will be able to fix it too.

Maybe it was just major overconfidence of them to try and launch a game of this scope. Perhaps they should have build funds with other games first, or get their funds trough other routes (wich I actually thought they did, but you said they have no money in your fact, so I will go by that).

blizzard had ALOT more money than av during the same process. even before wow blizzard (imo at least) was one of the most respected and loved developers in the world, and they still are. they made huge amounts of money off of diablo, starcraft and the warcraft franchises. now i agree that they were in the same position as av right now and yes blizzard did fix the problems they were having but it did not happen overnight. ill give av a few more days to a week to get it all sorted out, fix the sync and other big bugs, and let the rest of us buy and play. if they cant manage to do that in the next week or so then they lost my money

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