This review degradates the work of other regular reviewers who doesn't just solo for 10 hours and then write a review. This is even worse than the first 10 levels comparison by eurogamer between Vanguard and EQ2.

The reviewer was unable to point out original ideas in DDo and original concepts and rather focused on mentioning the features that are not in DDO present and that the reviewer probably expected after playing WOW for 4 years. He or she is clearly unable to appreciate different approach to gaming.

This review rather looks like it was clearly meant to be negative from the beginning. Like this site is already very positive about another Turbine game (lotro) and they do not want to look like favouring Turbine or being accused of being payed.

I was looking forward to read a good review about DDO but this is by far the sadest attempt on writing a review i have ever seen.

i don´t see any point to drag this out, there are many players who have made thier voices heard and hopefully made the reviewer think once or twice befor making such a ingorant and lousy review of a game he/she obviously didn´t like even b4 he/she had tried it out and mabye keep an open mind and acctually try it for atleast the full free trail period b4 making a review.

I´ve played the game and liked it very much, but it´s not at all something like WoW (thank god for that) so my suggestion to anyone who is interested in playing it: don´t let a reviwe made by a  scare you off. Ofc the game has it flaws but name one game who hasn´t , imo it´s THE BEST dungeon based game out there. If you think you will be repeating same quests over and over again you´r utterly wrong, that´s what veteran players do to make the exp grind less of a hustle, you will have 200+ dungeons (iirc) alot of encounter-areas. And if you are more or less skilled player you could easly solo you´r self up to lvl12.

The problem some people seem to have is they think it´s abandoned as they may not see all thoose players that are online. Newsflash to all of you it´s a dungeon based game not everyone will stand around in the middle of "The Marketplace" not doing anything they will be questing no doubt .

Originally posted by Bennyblyfot

The problem some people seem to have is they think it´s abandoned as they may not see all thoose players that are online. Newsflash to all of you it´s a dungeon based game not everyone will stand around in the middle of "The Marketplace" not doing anything they will be questing no doubt .

Oh yes, that's the reason most new players think the game is "deserted" . No, it's not . Just look at the player list, or write /who. People are just busy grouping, doing quests, etc. Not much to do in cities than socializing between quests, selling / repairing, buying and driking in the tavern .

I felt that way too, but it's just utterly untrue. Right now we have large population on EU servers, it's getting better even now.

I'm also the uploader of DDO EU Module 8 client on some "torrent bay" , so I can see how many people will be new for that source. Each day there are about 5-10 new people downloading the free client. That's much.

I you like, check that torrent - it's free client, but the game requires trial or subscription on account. The client is packed from 7GB to 3,4GB, and it's completely updated Module 8 client.

DDo is dead long ago...

They moved so far away from D&D core rules that it is not even D&D anymore.. just a mess with outdated graphics, a bad engine, laggy cheap servers, bad comunity relations and support.

Total crappy game.. at least the reviewer was honest in several points and that is rare nowadays. Well done.

Originally posted by EduardoASG

DDo is dead long ago...

They moved so far away from D&D core rules that it is not even D&D anymore.. just a mess with outdated graphics, a bad engine, laggy cheap servers, bad comunity relations and support.

 

Total crappy game.. at least the reviewer was honest in several points and that is rare nowadays. Well done.

I remember people saying it was dead a few months after it launched, that was coming up for 3 years ago. DDO isn't going anywhere, sorry to disappoint.

Originally posted by EduardoASG

DDo is dead long ago...

They moved so far away from D&D core rules that it is not even D&D anymore.. just a mess with outdated graphics, a bad engine, laggy cheap servers, bad comunity relations and support.

 

Total crappy game.. at least the reviewer was honest in several points and that is rare nowadays. Well done.

What game are you talking about?  Certainly not DDO . Rules are really close to D&D, I mean, it's exactly D&D with a changes in numbers, not rules. Almost entirely that way, and that's because this is MMORPG, not a tabletop game, and MMO playstyle is demanding.

The graphics are probably the best I've seen, and I've seen many other games, including LotrO and WotLK, Guild Wars. So nothing outdated.

Engine works good for me, and I play on Ultra High details with overclocked C2D 6750 and crappy GF 8600 DDR3. Onle few settings (draw distance, frill distance) aren't set ultra high, but very high or high.

I love DDO community, and support works for me even better.

The following link takes me to a list of DDO Podcast episodes dealing with Mod 8 content. Some of the links will deal with the New Player experience, while others discuss other features of the Module.

http://ddocast.com/categories/bfl84gSWU-ViG20GYcnXiehZXHrLqozUhUwwiX97BOg=.aspx

DivaGamer

Take this peice down, it is mnot even remotely a bout DDO, but the sad reality of WoW's decline, and the reviewer is bashing Turbine indirectly through DDO.

Originally posted by Niflheimr

Originally posted by Darkjinxter

A downside is there's no option to skip this island should you create new characters, as you likely will just to try out new builds. So, more switches and that now familar dragon to free yet again, and again, and again. Perhaps Turbine will change this approach soon. I hope so.

 

ô_ô ? i don't know how it is on us server, but on codemaster's, you can skip it when you have done it once.

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You can't skip the starter island, only the first quest on the island can be skipped. If you know better pray tell how it can be done. A skip straight to Stormreach would be really good, thankfully you will enlighten us noobs.

when i skip the first quest, i'm tp in "sunny" korthos (instead of the normal snowy), then i can use the ship to stormeach without completing any quest in korthos.

(and i'm not saying anybody is a noob, maybe it work differently in european server, but i never had any problem to skip the tutorial, i just did it once, then skip it all the time)

If you're starting out in DDO with a first character, you need to complete the starter storyline quest series on only one character per server.

After that, with all subsequent characters created on that server, you can tell Jeets Shimis (on the starter beach) that you want to skip the tutorial and go straight to Korthos Village. You immediately are ported to Korthos Village where you can select your end reward. Now you can run your character to the docks and talk to Valeria Sinderwind, First Mate of the Sojourn, and get passage to Stormreach, thereby skipping the whole Korthos Village quest line.

That's definitely how it works; I've done it myself, and am currently living in the US.

DivaGamer

That's a low score.

Might as well take DDO off the site no one is going to look at the this game since you game it a terrible score.

DDO is like a 7.5 at least. Its quite enjoyable imo.

Originally posted by Niflheimr

when i skip the first quest, i'm tp in "sunny" korthos (instead of the normal snowy), then i can use the ship to stormeach without completing any quest in korthos.

(and i'm not saying anybody is a noob, maybe it work differently in european server, but i never had any problem to skip the tutorial, i just did it once, then skip it all the time)

My apologies Niflheimr The one time I took the the 'skip' option I was totally unaware you could furthermore take the boat to Stormreach. I stand corrected and thank you and the others who posted this.

.....shutting up now....

I beta tested DDO. I wasn't impressed. It's definitely boring. I think some people's opinions are just colored by the fact they are D&D fans. I play D&D too and I love Eberron but DDO was teh suck. It could have been far better. Everything being so instanced gives it an artificial feel. They also did not include all the races or classes that should have been in Eberron. At the very least they could have at least had all the PHB races. I hope to see a 4th ed MMO eventually but if it's not going to be a good game then I'd rather it not be done at all.

You know its gr8 2c a review of DDO because it doesn't get enough attention. However as a player of 3 years, since the first day it was released, I think I can say how impressed I am with the community and the game play. Yes there are inadequacies but the positives far out weigh them. This reviewer should start by getting a decent pc. I had no lag on my old xp box and infrequent lag on my vista box (and that is to do with vista I am sure). I hope new players do come to DDO because everyone here will help them to get started, join a guild and level up their char, take them on raids and if they ask us... they can lead us to our deaths..lol. We have a lot of fun and plenty of laughs. If you don't find you like it, it won't be due to the lack of player interaction or inability to get in a party cause in the end its all about adventure and LOOT. Give me treasure or give me death..!!

I played DDO for a year. I quit playing it a year and a half ago. I left because the quest repetition does get old, but that was only after getting a few maxed level characters and enjoying myself for a long period of time.

I am not going to flame the reviewer. They are entitled to their opinion. However, I want to address some concerns with the review and offer my opinion.

1) I ran the very same content cited in the review  on a 7 series card with 2 gigs of ram. I had no issues. Your PC is either not optimized properly or you did not set up the options within the game according to your specs. This is a very basic thing any PC gamer needs to do when playing ANY game. DDO may have many shortcomings but client performance is not one of them. I've played it on a horrible laptop with 1/2 gig of ram and a 4 years old integrated graphics card and I did not get the circumstances you described.

I also ran it on a 6 series card with 1 gig of ram, about 2 years ago, with 0 problems. The load screens were just longer, there were no performance issues.

When I revisited it a few weeks ago I also tried it on my main rig: 4 gigs/8800 gts and could run it maxed on all options. The game never lagged, stuttered or froze.

2) 6.5? I would give it a 7.5. Again, this is my opinion and while it is no more valid than yours, I am positive that my opinion is better informed. I've leveled up many characters in the game and have more knowledge about the game based upon what you shared.

3) "WOW" factor. You're right, it's nothing like WoW. It's fairly original in a lot that it does.

DDO is not a perfect game by any means but it has a lot of great things to offer. There's definitely fun to be had with this game. To write it off like some sub-average tiny community grind fest is simply inaccurate. Grinding comes into play in the form of repeating content. Once you've run it all you obviously have to repeat it to continue playing. Find me one game that doesn't fail in this area. There are very few MMOs out there that can claim to have zero repetition of content. Is there grinding in a regular sense? It's pretty much absent.

If you've never played this, don't let the review put you off. The writer is completely entitled to their opinion. They are doing PC reviews on an MMO site yet they can't even figure out how to run the game properly.  This client runs very smoothly and can be made to run on very horrible systems rather reliably.

I hope this helps for those looking for more information. Good luck.

Originally posted by EduardoASG

DDo is dead long ago...

They moved so far away from D&D core rules that it is not even D&D anymore.. just a mess with outdated graphics, a bad engine, laggy cheap servers, bad comunity relations and support.

 

Total crappy game.. at least the reviewer was honest in several points and that is rare nowadays. Well done.

DDO is not only NOT dead but it seems to be growing since mod 8. It's a niche game and will stay that way because it's not your tradition thempark WoW style game.

DnD moves away from DnD with 4.0 lol... A video game based on imagination can be alloted some leeway I think.

I thought DX10 was the new hotness Name a new game that's not AoC that has better. Graphics are opinion but to say dated is just ignorant considering the games of last year and this.

Bad engine I couldn't say since I know nothing of them. Laggy cheap servers, yeah probably. Community is fine if you try to be a part of it. We're not gonna throw you a party but will invite you to one if your not a douche. Never used support and I doubt you have either so that's just a ignorant statment.

After you finish the Korthos quest chain on one character you do not have to do it again for any other char on that account unless you choose to.

Fact.

Originally posted by slask777

You guys are incredible. First you flame the reviewer cause she didn't play to endgame, then you flame Stradden for letting what you call a noob write it, then you say the community is a nice one? You come around as frenetic fanboys, nothing more than that. It's even worse on the official forum that some dude linked earlier in this thread. This review may hurt the game a little bit since some people can't seem to make up their own minds and need to listen to other people to figure out what is good or not, but your responses and attitude is hurting it more. You remind me of the Eve'ers.

Well Said. I play the game and I personally think it's a great game... however, I hate going to the forums...for this very reason. DDO fanbois and girls are absolutely impossible to deal with. And how they whine and cry ... yet dare you say anything negative about the game and you're toast. This thread is the epitome of the caustic nature of DDO's community. Absolutely ridiculos.

Peace.