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2/18/09 6:38:17 PM#2
Thanks for the detailed review. It has been said the mobs will be activated for release, and if this is your only main gripe, then that's good news indeed. Time will tell however. |
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2/18/09 6:40:47 PM#3
Nice to see that the bad things can be fixed in due time. I'd like to see animations to get a touch up, for sure. I think it would've been a double edged sword to delay the game. Can you imagine the bandwagon trolls demolishing any credit the game initially had? Bleh. I really want to see how they're doing a few months after release. |
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Wardrop
Novice Member
Joined: 3/18/04
The meaning of life is attained by caring for the one you have created. Papa for life!!! |
2/18/09 6:48:09 PM#4
Come now good reveiw, and i agree on many issues youve focused on, I think your easy on the crafting... Three days to make 1000 arrows that id burn in an hour.. thats hard..you need wood boards and iron ingots. 15 sec timer to pull one peice of ore or wood, or a reagent and not a peice of ore or wood... plus fails, then processing, 5 ore make 2 ingots or 5 lumber makes 2 wood boards plus fails... 30-40 ore or lumber per node limit then you have to move on, hoping you dont get pked..banking often before yuo get to 100 peices... then most items cost gold along with the resource... Its a hell of a hard grind that shouldnt be such a chore for a full loot game especially when you can walk out of town and get owned quick if you in the wrong place at the wrong time. and lose everything. And you know its damn likely to happen.
Still, thats my bitch about df, excellent post mate.
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2/18/09 7:11:46 PM#5
I can tell you that the early videos i saw gave away everything ,i did not need this review to already know what the game was doing.The ONLY thing i knew nothing of was crafting and AV said EVERYTHING would be crafted. They also said there WILL be elite bosses /EPIC gear,so you did not see them,they will or are there,this same gear i doubt will be craftable. Many are probably missing the big picture on magic use.The reason IMO that it is so weak at low levels is because it is ranged and gives an obvious advantage to melee.I would bet that as you get it to a reasonablke high level it probably will over power any melee otr at least become a btter option than trading blows back n forth. The op is also missing out on the obvious that was sort of explained by Tasos,there will NOT be any more mobs,their client can not handle it,the lack of NPC's was also already known and again will not be any better as time goes by. Personally i have no idea how they plan on implementing this game into the future,i see it as possibly never improving,what you see now is what you will get forever.As for crashes ,whatever i might let the OP know i had zero crashes in Vanguard or AOC,only once got stuck in Vanguard,but being a MUCH more aggressive game in every aspect ,you would expect soemthing somewhere to go wrong.The fact that DF has very little content and the world is for the most part barren,there is no real strain on your GPU/memory to cause any crashes.The combat as i watched was also VERY basic,one constant hammer swing by the melee,only the one animation over and over and the over the shoulder view was bland and very low poly,again no strain on the system. The OP did not comment on the view distance as videos varied in that respect,the ones i watched from leaked player videos showed a rather short view distance as compared to say VG for example. When the OP says you pretty much PVP or craft,that is EXACTLY what i expected from this game.such a small developer could never complete massive content as expected from SOE or Square Enix.Not that it is a knock on AV as ANY game predominantly surrounded by a PVP plot will be a superficial game with not much purpose in playing outside of PVP. Personally i was mildly interested in the game from a PVE perspective,but after watching some leaked videos,it looked bland and really has nothing to offer PVE players.I agree wit hthe OP 100% when says the mob aggro distance needs to be fixed,as that would ruin the gaming experience big time knowing you are always the prey never the predator when comes to mobs,even at that,they always seem to be using ranged to stay hidden for a period of time.I would bet it is also impossible to camp out ,expecting a mob to wander by you so that you could surprise it,they are probably stationary or would aggro you anyhow ,as soon as you are in a certain pre set range. I am really not sure what Aventurine thought their game is offering that is anything different or better than all other PVP MMO's,all i see is same old and in some areas an even weaker experience.My suggestion get rid of all these PVPMMO's and get back to the routes of making Baldur's gate/Wizardry/Might n Magic/Ultima[w/o PVP]/Everquest type games.I know the people are bored of it,but that is because the developers are looking for the easy way to do things so the games are becoming copies and nothing unique has been brought forth,FFXI is the ONLY game i have seen to bring in thoughtfull ideas,everyone else is just copying boring old ideas.
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2/18/09 7:12:30 PM#6
I have a question about the the lack of high end PVe Encounters.
Has anyone killed that dragon ?
-Darkstar |
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2/18/09 7:18:04 PM#7
Originally posted by Wizardry So do you like PvP? |
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2/18/09 7:18:06 PM#8
Originally posted by Darkstar111 I know of 1 dragon thats been killed but most likely it's not the one showed on youtube. took 3 player a couple of hours to down him. |
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2/18/09 7:21:00 PM#9
While I agree with much of what you said here, I don't agree with everything.
I believe there is a fair amount of mobs for a beta test. I wandered here and there all over the map and found just random things. I found these little brownie bastards that were as big as a flower out in a field that attacked the hell out of me even though I couldn't find them until it was too late, demons on the top of a volcano on a southern island, this CRAZY spire mountain with minotaurs and all sorts of stuff. I would like to see all sorts of fluff animals in the wilderness, but I don't know why there isn't any.
Check out this screenshot of that spire.
pretty amazing if you ask me, you could even scale to the very top fighting extreme mobs along the way, it was like a dungeon of sorts. |
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daarco
Novice Member
Joined: 12/19/06
I have Darkfall now! |
2/18/09 7:24:13 PM#10
Originally posted by Darkstar111
The other dragon have been killed. It took three hours. |
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nickelpat
Novice Member
Joined: 11/07/08
"War isn''t about dieing for your country; It''s about making your enemy die for theirs." - G.Patton |
2/18/09 7:29:48 PM#11
I'm very happy now, knowing this game isn't false or vaporware. I wish there was a free version/trial debuting at well. But, there's not. So, I'll wait until the NA release to give it a shot. Love the way the combat looks, the crafting, the sandbox. Loving it. ____________________________ "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but I know World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein |
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2/18/09 7:35:09 PM#12
Originally posted by ste2000
Il comment you on these issues as it seems you lack experience in the PVE content or you just been hugging the towers. (the other aspects of the game you seem to explain well enough so il just comment the PVE)
PVE Content: There are alot of camps for PVEe's and i would say alot more than most games. The most parts are not for Solo play if your a beginner rather you need to get a group and head off to the wild, I have personally seen maybe hundreds of diffrent camps with mobs in them and some are doable solo, some you need a small group and some you need 10 players or more. These camps are ofc not located 2 steps outside the city, you will need to travel and sometimes for an hour even just to get to the place you seek. Agon is so huge that during my beta about 2 weeks of play i have only seen maybe 15-20% of Agon. Quests: Very few quests indeed, to some are repeatble and you get a quick buck early on. MOB Population: As stated above you need to travel to the camps, and there are hundreds of mob camps. Bosses and group encounters: 90% of all camps are group encounters, unless your a very skilled player can even solo some, but most camps are quite hard and a 3-5 man team is whats needed. Several dungeaons and bosses spread around AGON for bigger raids also.
I hope that cleared some things since the lack of review from poster.
PS. The camps are very nice spots to jump other groups to steal their loot.
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2/18/09 7:36:24 PM#13
It is very obvious that some things are still turned off, like some raid bosses (chain + platform in the middle of the map). Also I like pvp and pve and I have enjoyed the pve in darkfall, even though I know that it is not fully turned on yet.
Please remember the devs have stated MULTIPLE times that the beta we are playing =/ release client. |
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AmazingAvery
Age of Conan Advocate
Joined: 1/16/07
The only time you run out of chances is when you stop taking them. |
2/18/09 7:43:08 PM#14
I found the quests very, very limited in appeal and very few. Human start area sucks for quests bad. They are ok themselves and presented in an ordinary fashion, rewards are standard. I liked how some got you into crafting, but it is all progressive based. Do 1 to open 2 to open 3.
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2/18/09 7:47:37 PM#15
Good to see both sides of a review now that the NDA is lifted. Hope the game does well. I'll wait for a free trial b4 trying the game and other reviewrs opinions 1st though. Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR. |
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2/18/09 7:50:18 PM#16
Originally posted by daarco
The other dragon have been killed. It took three hours. I have my doubts about that report, we newer saw any screenshots... --- |
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2/18/09 7:53:14 PM#17
Originally posted by strongaxe
use != i thought it was a |
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2/18/09 7:53:52 PM#18
Refering to mob population. There was a day when MMO's weren't covered by mobs at every turn. You could actually avoid mobs and get somewhere without having to run or fight everything on the way. This is fine in a linear game but in a sandbox(PvP) style game you would go ape shit pretty quick. Sent me an email if you want me to mail you some pizza rolls. |
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2/18/09 7:54:14 PM#19
Thank you... decent review. |
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2/18/09 7:55:49 PM#20
Im having a blast in-game this is the first fantasy themed MMO Ive ever played and the mechanics are just what I needed :) there are some things that need to be addressed before release but its been said that from here to release 3-4 giant patches will be implemented into the game turning on everything addresing exploits which they have done well so far. Heres a pic of a bunch of us going to seige a city there was a lot more but cant get everyone on screen :P
And for those that have seen me post before this is where I have been.
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