Lets stop the balancing issue question. There is none in Darkfall, since its up to you to use everything as you want. A bow might be über for me, and totally wotrhless for you, and the way around. So its pointless to ask about it.

Originally posted by harmonica

Originally posted by miagisan

Originally posted by harmonica

Originally posted by hercules

stability,ingame graphics,content,balance issues.

this is what i want to know about

 

Stability: It's as stable as a finished game, however it hasn't been stress-tested, so it's as stable as however many players are playing at the moment.

Graphics: They're decent. The animations aren't that great, though.

Content: The content is really all about other players. I didn't find it that enjoyable fighting mobs by myself, but playing with a clan (looking for clanstones, warring other clans, group fighting vs pks) is where the bulk of the enjoyment is.

Balance: There probably won't really be any balancing issues since there are no classes. If one skill is the best for something, then everyone will get it and it will balance itself that way. Fighting is definitely a lot more fun when you can switch between a bow, a sword, and a magic staff all for one fight.

 

 

thats a lie, if you ever played swg you would know nerfs are balance.....especially in most sandbox games.

That's not a lie. When people ask about balance in MMOs they generally want to know "are orks better than humans?" "are archers better than mages"?

But in a game like this, the answer will be different because you can be any race with any skillset. There are no classes.

So if something is really strong, it's not like one group won't be able to take advantage of it - everyone can.

Spot on, there. If your getting owned buy someone with the same gear as you, your skill at playing is less then theirs plain and simple. Everyone gets the same stuff, but the way a person uses what they have gives the advantage...

I was naked with a starter pole arms and killed a chainwearing elf, with a desent weapon, why cause i out fought him. this scenario is the scenario everyplayer of DF will have to endure. Dosnt matter about what you got it matters how you use it, and your environment to your advantage. If you climb a tree you have better veiw then that heavy armored idiot below that doesnt know where that bowe shot is coming from, cause he doesnt know to look up at the simple armored guy with the noob bow.

Ohh btw yea you can climb trees, giant mushrooms etc, your environtment is your life.

What's the largest pvp battle you've seen/fought in? 10vs10, 20vs20 etc?

I have done 15 vs 15 without any problem. Once we were ten people fighting in one small room (in a house) with no problem...well i lost

Of course there are balance issues.  The issues are there - but of the "flavor of the month" variety.  Of course, some races complain that there starting stats are not balanced too...but that is not what I was talking about.  OK?

• Originally posted by daarco

Lets stop the balancing issue question. There is none in Darkfall, since its up to you to use everything as you want. A bow might be über for me, and totally wotrhless for you, and the way around. So its pointless to ask about it.

No, let's not.

With that:

• At max skill level, how do each of the combat disciplines measure against each other?
• At what point does the soft-cap kick in? In other words, when does it start to be a real pita to gain skills?
• Are there killer deer and llamas? (They scare me...)
• Just wondering if there was the UO one-shot heavy xbow, or the sooper-dooper war hammer issues.

That's all for now.

Hey Daarco I've been in the beta for a while too, started of as Human.

Where you started did you find the world lacking in mobs / npcs / nature as much as I find?

I got a couple questions

1. Is stealing skill in the game? I loved my thief in old UO. Was one of the best chars I had.

2. How about necromancy magic? What is it like? I love necromancers but UO implemented it weak . Also is there any place available on the net or anyone give a list of spells for the magic skills?

As to the crafting issue;

Grind grind grind and grind some more if crafting is your bag and no way to sell anything if you do unles you want to WTB somewhere and then likely be jumped and looted.

Seriously this crafting system is the worst Ive ever seen. The items from mobs so far are as good as anything crafted and so much easier to get. They did help the gold sink on low items but theres some serious lack of thought put into crafting. If this is you thing you may well want to pass on crafting or darkfall.

Oh and this is pretty much the concensus across the board on beta forums.

No stealing in game.

Magic was pretty much left alone by most testers due to a grind simular to crafting so maybe someone else can answer.

Originally posted by calibek

I got a couple questions

 

1. Is stealing skill in the game? I loved my thief in old UO. Was one of the best chars I had.

2. How about necromancy magic? What is it like? I love necromancers but UO implemented it weak . Also is there any place available on the net or anyone give a list of spells for the magic skills?

1. stealing isn't in.

2. necro takes 75 skill in witchcraft to achieve..i.e. a lesser version.  In order to get witchcraft, you need 25 greater magic, which you need 50 lesser magic to achieve.  A guildie of mine had around 30 in witchcraft and it wasn't anything special.  The debuffs last 1 minute.  Just remember that you have to hit the target...making it less viable.

I did the opposite line of spell chanting.  Buffs also last 1 minute...the ones I tested.  The ones I tested also required you to be in melee range to land.  More group-oriented buffs as opposed to self-ones.

As of now, archery is much more efficient and powerful given the recast of half-decent spells.

Hey, I'd like to know If recalling will be in game, such as in UO. Thank you!

Oh, If this question was asked already, I apologize.

I'd like to know how well the enviornment works at hiding you.  Do you really cast longer shadows when the sun is setting behind you?  Does it become harder to see people at night, if so how much harder?  Have you ever spotted someone by the shine of their armor or gleam off their weapon that you don't think you would've spotted otherwise?  Also, how many AoE spells did you test/see others testing in the game?

I havent seen any recalling so far, you need to travel back.

Night in DF..what can i say. I hate the nights. Because you cant see much. Someone can hide next to you and you wouldent know. Sneaking is very easy at night.  Shadows do grow when the sun is low.

I always sneak nighttime when im alone exploring dangerous areas. To bad i cant see the mobs attacking me : (

And you can stalk someone by day as well. I did just logout from DF now. And i found three red PKers. I couldent handle them alone, so i stalked them for about 20 minutes....and looted two of thier kills while they were busy fighting. I know its not an noble thing to do.....but i did it anyway.

Originally posted by tcosaddict

I'd like to know how well the enviornment works at hiding you. 

Some of the tree and rocks are big enough + bushes too.

Do you really cast longer shadows when the sun is setting behind you? 

Yes you do create really long shadows, which are ok so long as your in the shadow of the object  your hiding behind

Does it become harder to see people at night, if so how much harder? 

It does yes. Not too much but enough to have an effect.

Have you ever spotted someone by the shine of their armor or gleam off their weapon that you don't think you would've spotted otherwise? 

I have seen glints and go after them, it wont work from say 300m plus as you can't tell (with all options maxxed out) in my experience

Also, how many AoE spells did you test/see others testing in the game?

None as magic is a grind all to itself and costs a fortune to get up there, people just say in the safe zones and spam "mana missile" into the sky to gain exp. Sorry couldn't help here.

Originally posted by oakthornn

Hey, I'd like to know If recalling will be in game, such as in UO. Thank you!

Oh, If this question was asked already, I apologize.

You do have a bindstone recall command activated in beta. It's not much documented but I belive you will be able to make bindstone figurines that others can steal and use for their own purposes.

The recall command is very, very, very slow, so you need a good hidingspot to activate it. In beta it's easier to log on/off because now you automatically appare at your bindstone in beta :)

Hmm, do you know If there will be any form of teleporting, gating, recall stones, etc implemented at all in the future?  I've read on the FAQ that there will be magical means of traveling, which leads me to believe at least teleporting will be in game. This is very important to me because If there is nothing of the sort in game, then I won't train magic. 

Also, will there be illusionary and enchantment type spells, such as invisibility, levitate, charm, fear, etc? This will determine whether or not magic is even worth training for me. I may just go with archery as my range and healing magic,,, if there's even a healing magic archtype, or does that fall under the leser magic archtype?

Originally posted by Xris375

Originally posted by oakthornn

Hey, I'd like to know If recalling will be in game, such as in UO. Thank you!

Oh, If this question was asked already, I apologize.

 

You do have a bindstone recall command activated in beta. It's not much documented but I belive you will be able to make bindstone figurines that others can steal and use for their own purposes.

The recall command is very, very, very slow, so you need a good hidingspot to activate it. In beta it's easier to log on/off because now you automatically appare at your bindstone in beta :)

So kinda sorta like "recall stones" as in Ultima Online?  I'd love to see them implement recall stones and allow us the freedom to travel wherever we want if you have magic trained high enough to recall. That would be awesome.

Originally posted by sn0wblind00

Originally posted by calibek

I got a couple questions

 

1. Is stealing skill in the game? I loved my thief in old UO. Was one of the best chars I had.

2. How about necromancy magic? What is it like? I love necromancers but UO implemented it weak . Also is there any place available on the net or anyone give a list of spells for the magic skills?

 

1. stealing isn't in.

2. necro takes 75 skill in witchcraft to achieve..i.e. a lesser version.  In order to get witchcraft, you need 25 greater magic, which you need 50 lesser magic to achieve.  A guildie of mine had around 30 in witchcraft and it wasn't anything special.  The debuffs last 1 minute.  Just remember that you have to hit the target...making it less viable.

I did the opposite line of spell chanting.  Buffs also last 1 minute...the ones I tested.  The ones I tested also required you to be in melee range to land.  More group-oriented buffs as opposed to self-ones.

As of now, archery is much more efficient and powerful given the recast of half-decent spells.

That sucks...Thieving in UO was fun until it was ruined.

That made up my mind about the game.

Originally posted by oakthornn

Originally posted by Xris375

Originally posted by oakthornn

Hey, I'd like to know If recalling will be in game, such as in UO. Thank you!

Oh, If this question was asked already, I apologize.

 

You do have a bindstone recall command activated in beta. It's not much documented but I belive you will be able to make bindstone figurines that others can steal and use for their own purposes.

The recall command is very, very, very slow, so you need a good hidingspot to activate it. In beta it's easier to log on/off because now you automatically appare at your bindstone in beta :)

 

So kinda sorta like "recall stones" as in Ultima Online?  I'd love to see them implement recall stones and allow us the freedom to travel wherever we want if you have magic trained high enough to recall. That would be awesome.

It is speculation but in short yes, it is technical possible and easy to implement at this time.