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  MMO-Rogue

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2/13/09 6:54:06 PM#101
Originally posted by Tigge

A good read and update.

I interpreted this as it's a limited pre-order/order because simply they cannot support several hundred thousand people online at the same time :P

So therefore they will start of small and only allowing a limited number of people to buy the game and play.

I mean take a look at eve online which is also one big world.

Someone said they hit a new player record of 50k concurrent users online at the same time. And imagine how much money they have invested in hardware and how long it has taken for them to reach that.

Just be realistic.

/Tagert

 


 

Eve Online never restricted access to their player base.  Do not compare this to Eve Online. Eve Online is where they are by having delivered - not by empty promises.

  Hhussk

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2/13/09 6:55:56 PM#102

Let me qualify my statement first. I'm a fan of Darkfall, or at least, what is proposed to be Darkfall.

 

Without a doubt, Tasos is a crappy person to interview. I don't have a problem with confident people, but he offerred almost nothing in this interview. Now, if I ran a game company, I would at least try to give good interviews.

Secondly, I'll never give any money up in advance. You guys will have to let me know how things are going before I join in. I'm not just saying this to Darkfall, I treat all games like this. Unfortunately, without hearing from playtesters, I'm more skeptical.

Third, and quite important in my book, I'm extremely unhappy about the player housing (or lack thereof) aspect. ...I'm wondering how much of a sandbox this is going to be.

 

Overall, this may be an extremely successful game. I would love it to succeed. But I'd also like Tasos to grow up a little bit. Perhaps Tasos has been burned a lot in the past. Oh well, get over it. If you want subscribers, you're going to have to share a little more.

I guess what's bothering me the most is that almost all my information is coming from a single source. That's not right.

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  Tigge

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2/13/09 7:22:12 PM#103
Originally posted by MMO-Rogue
Originally posted by Tigge

A good read and update.

I interpreted this as it's a limited pre-order/order because simply they cannot support several hundred thousand people online at the same time :P

So therefore they will start of small and only allowing a limited number of people to buy the game and play.

I mean take a look at eve online which is also one big world.

Someone said they hit a new player record of 50k concurrent users online at the same time. And imagine how much money they have invested in hardware and how long it has taken for them to reach that.

Just be realistic.

/Tagert

 


 

Eve Online never restricted access to their player base.  Do not compare this to Eve Online. Eve Online is where they are by having delivered - not by empty promises.

Eve online didn't have 300k people knocking at the door either when going live :P

It's perfectly valid to compare it to Eve Online because they're both uses the "one big world" concept and therefore hardware is required in order to run it as such.

Sure it remains to be seen if Darkfall delivers or not. But if you had two choices of making the launch unrestricted and laggy as fuck or a limited launch which will run smooth and after a while be able to take in more people, what would you choose? :)

  jy88902

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2/13/09 7:24:58 PM#104
Originally posted by javac

 

I wish more game developers were like Tasos. Instead of treating gamers badly he provides genuine status info and straight to the point answers. I also like how much his straightforward style gets up the nose of the ADD-riddled crowd on mmorpg.com who need to be handheld through recycled lines of marketing stuff in order to feel comfortable in a game.

 

ps: DF is more stable and more fun in beta than the current crop of MMOs around are months after release.

pps: i am also relieved and glad that mmorpg.com morons will not be taking my preorder place. cheers.

right, now back to DF.

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The only way you're gonna get a spot at the limit release is to suck up your fanboy pride and get scammed for whatever amount they're charging to get in line.

 

Trust me, the Darkfall forum mods aren't going to be scanning these forums to find the most deranged and delusional fanboy to award a limited-release spot to.

  Seraxes

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Joined: 7/25/08
Posts: 21

2/13/09 7:46:43 PM#105
Originally posted by miagisan

My favorite parts:

Question 1s answer, an update over 3 weeks ago is keeping your player base informed? hehehe.....now thats funny.

Question 4: So no more AudioVisual? Preorder is d/l only....so umm..12 days left, and if you are keeping the 25th as your launch date (as per question 3) when do you plan on actually releasing this info/preorder/dl?

Question 5: No more player housing huh? well i guess the HARDCORE will love that.....whats an ARAC guild?

Question 6: NDA still not going to be lifted, groovy....12 days to go!

 


 

This sucks... I may sub for one more month of WAR...

  User Deleted
2/13/09 7:51:27 PM#106
Originally posted by BaronJuJu

"We’ve also been doing our best to respond immediately to any bugs reported by the testers and so far our track record has been very good at fixing them immediately. By looking at the player logs, we’ve corrected many areas that the players didn’t need to report."

That makes no sense. If you supposedly corrected the areas, the players wouldn't be submitting bug reports on it.

 

I think what he's getting at is that they can check the logs of what players are doing, how they're playing, what sort of numbers, damage, etc. etc... Most MMOs track a lot of data (more than some might realize) and can get a lot of useful information from that, without having to actually be told directly by the players... which is good, because players can tend to distort info a bit to suit their own ends.

So... while they take feedback from players on direct things like bugs and such, there is other data that a player wouldn't really be able to "report" directly, that they can track through other means.

Just means they have (presumably) good data tracking, which is a good thing.

 

  r0guy

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2/13/09 7:51:34 PM#107

If all this isn't amounting to one big fat SCAM, i don't know what is...

  Isane

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Jean Sali

2/13/09 7:59:55 PM#108
Originally posted by miagisan

My favorite parts:

Question 1s answer, an update over 3 weeks ago is keeping your player base informed? hehehe.....now thats funny.

Question 4: So no more AudioVisual? Preorder is d/l only....so umm..12 days left, and if you are keeping the 25th as your launch date (as per question 3) when do you plan on actually releasing this info/preorder/dl?

Question 5: No more player housing huh? well i guess the HARDCORE will love that.....whats an ARAC guild?

Question 6: NDA still not going to be lifted, groovy....12 days to go!

 

Always intended on Pre-Order and download with limited copies for the 25th go read up on the game you seem i'll informed. Have a browse around use a tool called goodle or even go onto you tube and search for darkfall Beta you will have all the info you need.
 

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  User Deleted
2/13/09 8:00:01 PM#109
Originally posted by BaronJuJu
Originally posted by pk66

Sooo, whatever happened to everyone will get to try this game for free before buying. The 'trial' is nothing more than a closed beta and from the look of all the patch notes they're still fxing/tweaking stuff like mad. This game was supposedly in beta with professional testers who couldn't find the hundreds of bugs reported in the closed beta? Seriously?

So, no OPEN beta, no free trial, still no NDA lift with 12 days to release. Then a limited number of pre-orders, no word from their publisher at all, no word on what the limit of pre-orders is.

This has to be the most bizarre way of running an on-line game company. Besides the fact that Tasos said they would never do pre-orders, wouldn't you want an unlimited number of them to gauge how much infrastructure you need to scale to? Did their publisher pull funding and aventurine only has enough hardware to start a limited release?

There are a lot of features of this game that appeal to me. The way the the release is being handled, not so much.


 

Don't forget its not only a limited number of pre-orders...its a limited number of copies at launch as well. You'd better be first in that virtual line I guess

TASOS: "There will be a limited number of pre-order copies of Darkfall offered, and a limited number of copies available at launch."

 

If that's the case, and there is a "line" of people waiting to get into the game... how much ya bet that's going to be spun into positive PR...

"DF has proven to be a wild success... So much so that we've been unable to meet the demand and potential players are having to wait for their copy..."

I wouldn't doubt it at all... *if* that's the case... and that's a significant "if".

 

  Isane

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2/13/09 8:08:48 PM#110
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Sorry Tasos is just blowing smoke on his 10k per server, especially since most MMO's with far more experienced staff usually run 5k.  LIke someone said above to achieve that number they will have to severely limit the number of npcs and mobs in the game.   He should not do interviews, his credibility is in the dumps because of them.  His overly defensive stance does not bode well for the game if that is representative of the rest of the staff.  Arrogance breeds mistakes.

I still think they have not tested effectively the server tech.  My guess is, we will see a lot of server crashes the first few months while they get it sorted out.

LIke I said before, this will be a rough launch.  You can't expect a smooth one with as little testing as they have done.

I wish them luck, but the critics will be on them hard.


 

If only you knew you are so wrong....

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  winter

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2/13/09 8:43:56 PM#111
Originally posted by MyPreciousss

Good interview, Tasos is a nice and cool guy actually, making a new different mmorpg in spite of all the hatred and mockery he is constantly subject to.

I like how he's always answering calmly to people who think they have the right to demand anything and bitch hysterically for ages about a game they don't deserve to play anyway, and not knowing aught about developping but what they read from other haters.

Tasos you're the man, keep firm in the eye of the cyclone, lead your ship through this ocean of mud, don't listen to trolls chanting and cursing, when we'll eventually touch the shore, a new era of sandbox mmorpg will begin and true players will be at your side and thank you gratefully for what you have been through and what you brought us.


 

 Hahahaha,  

  dirtyside

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2/13/09 9:47:07 PM#112

so ...  what makes this the best mmo ever??? basically what was said is if i dont play from day one , i'm screwed . but i might not be able to play from day one because its limited . or until they open more servers .so yea , why would i want to play a shadowbane  with better graphics

  isolor

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2/13/09 10:58:15 PM#113
Originally posted by Isane
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Sorry Tasos is just blowing smoke on his 10k per server, especially since most MMO's with far more experienced staff usually run 5k.  LIke someone said above to achieve that number they will have to severely limit the number of npcs and mobs in the game.   He should not do interviews, his credibility is in the dumps because of them.  His overly defensive stance does not bode well for the game if that is representative of the rest of the staff.  Arrogance breeds mistakes.

I still think they have not tested effectively the server tech.  My guess is, we will see a lot of server crashes the first few months while they get it sorted out.

LIke I said before, this will be a rough launch.  You can't expect a smooth one with as little testing as they have done.

I wish them luck, but the critics will be on them hard.


 

If only you knew you are so wrong....

Please explain how Ozmodan is wrong? You seem to have the facts by your statement so fill us in.

Tasos has said that there server can hold up to 10,000 players. Now I have read all the leaks, watched all the video's And to me it appears there are not many players around. It has  been posted most times that there is about 1100 - 1200 beta testing with one source saying that there is 5000 beta testers.  I don't know how trust worthy these sources are, but lets assume that 5000 is correct.

With this 5000 or so beta testers it seems to be the truth that there are not many npc's running around. Even Tasos himself has said they need to take out npc's to have to have spots for players. Now this should make one think that the server cannot handle 10,000 players at one time.

So since Tasos has stated that they will be limiting players through pre-orders and launch and we don't know how many servers they can use, it could also be safe to assume that they will only have 5000 subscriptions to start, or maybe best scenerio 5 servers with 5000 players each for 25,000 subscribers. Is this my opinion? Yep, because Tasos and everyone else from Aventurine has not given any hard facts about servers, Minimum requirements, price, or how many pre-orders they will start with. So my guess is as good as any other.

How long will it take to get more infastructure in to support more players?

Now I have been quietly  watching and waiting for this game, but the more I see, read, and hear the more disappointed I am becomming. I still hope it becomes a very good MMORPG, and would love to play it if, and only if they get their act together and really start to inform the player base.

 

  Gorrex

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2/13/09 11:04:58 PM#114

How can this game support 10k players when others from AAA companies cant?

 

Easy.. Its much bigger, each "server" is a larger cluster. Many MMO's a server is just that ONE extremely decked out server. Each "zone" is ran as a seperate process so the server can juggle the load. Some games run 2-3 servers for continents or sections of the game. Normally anytime you have a long load time your not only reloading textures etc.. but actually switching servers.

There is another model though. Running on large clusters. EVE is the only other game I know of currently running this model. EVE has shown this model is near limitless in the number of players in a world. (NOT a "zone"). Each "zone" is still a process etc.. but there are many more places the servers can juggle them to. One exceptionaly busy zone can be designated to its own server. EVE has done this on numerous occasions when they know big wars are coming. Darkfall is using much the same architecture.

They may be using 4,5 or even 50 machines per world. No matter how many each "world" will cost multiple times what a normal MMO does to set up. Combine that with relatively limited funding (still millions) and its easy to see why they are taking the path they are.

They assumed with little to no PR their game would attract 10's of thousands. However it has attracted hundreds and hundreds of thousands. Will everyone looking at it buy? No.. However the possibility is there for 500k+ to buy at launch. Without knowing (by preorders) there is a very good chance especially under the cluster model to not be able to provide enough worlds on day one. They now know the maximum number they can put up. If the demand exceeds that they have to cut off sales. Its the lesser of two evils.

The game is real, while not ALL of its features are live, its a very few that have been cut.  It has its problems some minor, some frustrating, and some potentially major. However most detractors I beleive are off the mark on their reasons.

 

 

  Alienovrlord

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2/13/09 11:23:06 PM#115

 

This guy makes me throw up in my mouth every time I read an interview with him.

Good interview though.  MMORPG.COM starts out with 'Why haven't you been giving information?" and Tasos in typical fashion responds that MMORPG.COM is lying.   Just like he ignores all the people that predicted the push-back last time rather than addressing their previous screw-up in a professional manner.  

This is the worst kind of behavior in a developer.  As long as some in the MMORPG community keep accepting it (or worse actually defending it  for whatever bizarre, masochistic reasons)  then there will be other developers after Darkfall is long gone who will think they can do the same. 

Originally posted by CaesarsGhost

I'm comparing the responses and developer's answers... the "limited preorder"...

I don't agree with comparing the game with Dark and Light , I think it's in better shape than that (not that it takes much to be in better shape than the steaming pile that was DnL) but that limited preorder garbage is a truly ridiculous ploy on Aventurine's part.    It was bad enough this close to release and no NDA release and they were talking Pre-Orders but now it's LIMITED!    Better run out and buy it before they're gone!!  

Ah well, at least these forums continue to entertain.  

  ZtyX

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2/14/09 12:44:32 AM#116

Awesome!! a Darkfall interview. Thanks!

  taelru

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2/14/09 1:22:41 AM#117

 

as I read this interview it brought to mind an ancient proverb:

 

" if it looks like a turd, and smells like a turd, then it probably is a turd "

 

 

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2/14/09 1:40:15 AM#118

Very interesting interview...and what an original and might I say clever approach to an MMOG launch. The game is in excellent shape, stable and a lot of fun. This one is going to be a success.

Now I only need to get my pre-order in.

  imbant

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2/14/09 1:45:25 AM#119
Originally posted by Whitewalker

Very interesting interview...and what an original and might I say clever approach to an MMOG launch. The game is in excellent shape, stable and a lot of fun. This one is going to be a success.

Now I only need to get my pre-order in.

 

No MMO is without its hardships on launch...some are just more apparent than others =)  But DF is in good shape, though definitely will have some hurdles to overcome and things to fix...people mistake Tasos' claims as the game is 100% perfect and done...just because they need something to bash DF about...but thats another thread.

 

Anyways, cant wait to see how launch is....great game if you are into this niche style of mmo.

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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009

Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296

"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester

"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos

  virox69

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2/14/09 2:57:51 AM#120

What I get from this interview is ....They are gonna release this game on the 25th, but there will only be a certain amount copies available depending on how many people there server/servers can handle. Which honestly doesnt sound like much at this point. Which could potentially leave thousands of fanbois out in the cold until they are ready for more players. Does anyone else see the potential here? I will pre-order a copy just too see what one of these rabid fans will pay on e-bay for this.

I am looking foward to this game...but it sure smells fishy still.

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