Very simple.  Darkfall is a ridiculously amazing sandbox game, but it is very very very "sandboxy".  Im not saying that you are less of a gamer if you like themepark/linear/handholding/whatever type mmos.  I am simply saying that if you do not like sandbox games, do not think you will play Darkfall and think that "oh maybe it will have some non sandbox elements"...it doesn't.

Now if you are the kind of gamer who....

• Likes the idea of finding a mob in the middle of nowhere, and having no idea how powerful it is, and can only guess based on its name and appearance.
• Is HUGE on exploration...as in walking/riding aimlessly looking at the map and thinking "hey there may be something cool like an underground clanstone or interesting cave', and then telling your guild how you found this amazing spot.
• Is looking for a crafter's wet dream mmo in terms of the economy and demand (not necessarily the mechanics of the actual crafting).
• Enjoys player driven content.
• Guild v Guild politics
• Realistic gameplay environments (having to scan the horizon when you turn a corner...actually being able to duck behind some ruble in a city when being chased then run up some stairs to avoid 10 people trying to kill you and being able to escape vs. having a big green name above your head and being locked on to magically).
• Likes exploring...oh did i mention that?  well DF exploration is that rewarding.
• And a ridiculous amount of sandbox elements i cant get into

.....then Darkfall is for you.

Just felt like sharing.  Also expecting lots of people on February 25th to be making posts like "omg this game sucks, i was totally trying to farm goblins and this guy like totally killed me and took away all the gold i had been there for 2 hours farming...huh why would i go bank it?"   and   "wtf am i suppose to do?"....

I think you typed in the word, 'sandbox' than all the other words combined in that one post, damn. I just hope you know what sandbox really means before throwing it around like free umbrellas on a rainy day.

I have a feeling that tons of sandbox virgins are gonna try this out and then scram to mmorpg.com and other sites giving reviews about how shitty the game is simply because it is not what they expected.

But who cares, there loss anyways. If your dumb enough to buy a game you know nothing about and then be dissapointed, than that really makes my day. I wont feel bad, so reading all those disapointed reviews will be like music to my ears.

Originally posted by denshing

I have a feeling that tons of sandbox virgins are gonna try this out and then scram to mmorpg.com and other sites giving reviews about how shitty the game is simply because it is not what they expected.

But who cares, there loss anyways. If your dumb enough to buy a game you know nothing about and then be dissapointed, than that really makes my day. I wont feel bad, so reading all those disapointed reviews will be like music to my ears.

Exactly...well as long as we have at least 1 full server ill be happy.  Game has ridiculous potential and is hands down the best sandbox and immersive experience on the market right now.

To the other guy...wasnt really saying all those things were the definition of what "sandbox" means.

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Exactly...well as long as we have at least 1 full server ill be happy.  Game has ridiculous potential and is hands down the best sandbox and immersive experience on the market right now.

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Except its not on the market yet.

If you do not like sandbox shitbox games - DO NOT BUY DF

Sorry but after reading about the siege mechanics, if what I read is true, Darkfall is not totally sandbox, because those mechanics are completely Theme Park.

I think most people would like "Sandbox" games, but the current problem with most of the ones out are they become griefer fests. Nobody likes a game where you get griefed and you don't even have 3 total skills.

Don't get me wrong!! I'm no carebare, but if you cannot reach a state in which player skill cannot save you then there is no point in playing a sandbox unless you get in immediately with a guild supporting you from the start.

Eve is the only somewhat successful sandbox, and that is because noobs are protected somewhat and have a chance to learn the ropes before taking on the PvP audience. If you can't even figure the game out because your getting camped trying to kill badgers, then the game mechanics suck. That's why FFA servers in most games are shut down within 6 months.

Sandbox games rock and usually have the best communties hands down!! Just have to nuture the new player base or the games are doomed to fail!!

Sandbox needs sand, bucket spade, maybe a toy digger truck. From what I am hearing all this has is dog poo. From the leaks it sounds like they could have called it Dark and Light 2. Hard to tell seems like even beta testers only get to play 10 minutes a day (which aparently is about how long the servers are up)

Edit; Oh and there are already guilds bragging about sploits that are putting them firmly on top.

I cant wait for all the people screaming"were are the quests?" LOL

Hope those people dont bother to play.

And about sieges..did you men the timer?? Its still in beta.

Originally posted by mutombo55

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Exactly...well as long as we have at least 1 full server ill be happy.  Game has ridiculous potential and is hands down the best sandbox and immersive experience on the market right now.

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Except its not on the market yet.

 

If you do not like sandbox shitbox games - DO NOT BUY DF

 

gotta love the people who feel the need to make a comment like this...what are you doing here?  you arent going to convince someone prerelease to not buy it...theyll wait for reviews and not forum trolls....

its people like you that attract people to the game if anything lol...ugh its amazing that there are actually people behind the computer of guys like this.

Originally posted by Gorilla

Sandbox needs sand, bucket spade, maybe a toy digger truck. From what I am hearing all this has is dog poo. From the leaks it sounds like they could have called it Dark and Light 2. Hard to tell seems like even beta testers only get to play 10 minutes a day (which aparently is about how long the servers are up)

Edit; Oh and there are already guilds bragging about sploits that are putting them firmly on top.

"apparently" they are patching at least once a day...maybe something to do with why servers are down a lot?  ive actually heard they are up for hours at a time consistently and brought down to patch...not cause it crashes.

 keep making stuff up...only makes the game look that much more appealing when people see others desperately trying to put the game down

Originally posted by daarco

I cant wait for all the people screaming"were are the quests?" LOL

Hope those people dont bother to play.

And about sieges..did you men the timer?? Its still in beta.

99% of the MMO community either don't know or don't care about DF. So I wouldn't worry about people running around crying that they can't see bright yellow exclamation marks above NPC's heads. Those of us that actually were interested in trying something different have been driven away by the DF community. It'll be carebear free, I can guarantee you that. The question is, in a world that is driven by PvP, is there going to be anyone left to fight?

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Originally posted by daarco

 

I cant wait for all the people screaming"were are the quests?" LOL
Hope those people dont bother to play.
And about sieges..did you men the timer?? Its still in beta.

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If they have the idea the game has quests they probably got it from the FAQ
 
 

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What is the setting of this game?
The setting of Darkfall is a fantasy adventure where anything is possible, with dragons, elves, orks, sorcery, epic battles, quests, and the never-ending struggle between good and evil.

Are there other types of spawns besides random spawns?
There are some static spawns mostly associated with quests.

And from: Darkfall Developer Journal #15
Article by Tasos Flambouras (Associate Producer, Darkfall)

A couple of numbers I heard today: nearly 12 thousand items in the game, and 706 complex quests at launch

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I like sandbox games doesn't mean i have to buy DF. I'm sure there will be way better sandbox games to follow DF int he future.

Originally posted by Jakeadunk

I like sandbox games doesn't mean i have to buy DF. I'm sure there will be way better sandbox games to follow DF int he future.

I haven't come across a decent one since UO 

Originally posted by Draklon

Originally posted by Jakeadunk

I like sandbox games doesn't mean i have to buy DF. I'm sure there will be way better sandbox games to follow DF int he future.

 

I haven't come across a decent one since UO 

There there, don't cry 

No one should endure what you have. Playing AoC 21 hours this week? That will put anyone in a crying mood.

Originally posted by imbant

Very simple.  Darkfall is a ridiculously amazing sandbox game, but it is very very very "sandboxy".  Im not saying that you are less of a gamer if you like themepark/linear/handholding/whatever type mmos.  I am simply saying that if you do not like sandbox games, do not think you will play Darkfall and think that "oh maybe it will have some non sandbox elements"...it doesn't.

 

Now if you are the kind of gamer who....

• Likes the idea of finding a mob in the middle of nowhere, and having no idea how powerful it is, and can only guess based on its name and appearance.
• Is HUGE on exploration...as in walking/riding aimlessly looking at the map and thinking "hey there may be something cool like an underground clanstone or interesting cave', and then telling your guild how you found this amazing spot.
• Is looking for a crafter's wet dream mmo in terms of the economy and demand (not necessarily the mechanics of the actual crafting).
• Enjoys player driven content.
• Guild v Guild politics
• Realistic gameplay environments (having to scan the horizon when you turn a corner...actually being able to duck behind some ruble in a city when being chased then run up some stairs to avoid 10 people trying to kill you and being able to escape vs. having a big green name above your head and being locked on to magically).
• Likes exploring...oh did i mention that?  well DF exploration is that rewarding.
• And a ridiculous amount of sandbox elements i cant get into

.....then Darkfall is for you.

Just felt like sharing.  Also expecting lots of people on February 25th to be making posts like "omg this game sucks, i was totally trying to farm goblins and this guy like totally killed me and took away all the gold i had been there for 2 hours farming...huh why would i go bank it?"   and   "wtf am i suppose to do?"....

Sandbox is what most people expect going into the game.  Many things are not customizable, espscially cities.  Skills feel like eq leveling - i.e. not every branch is open from the start.  Nothing like grinding lesser and greater magic before I can do anything worthwhile! 

Let me go through your points.

1. Well considering there are only about 5 mobs per outlier continents, with half being npcs of player races, it doesn't take long to figure out.  If you don't know, there isn't any risk.  Just run around, take a few hits, and get out.  The only way you'll die is if you get caught on terrain or run in a straight line.

2. The world is big, yes.  Empty as well.  Yes, you might find a small cave or cravess in middle of nowhere...but there is no point to it.  Assuming it has mobs at all, they are the same mobs as the rest of the areas and give nothing unique.  In a pvp game where resources matter, most people will not bother running to the middle of nowhere when they can get the same things close-to-home.

3. There is only one beneficial, not profitable, type of crafting right now. 

4. Player-driven content?

5. Guild politics occurs in any game.

6. It is nice you can hide around corners, like many games, but not all.  You can also crouch-sneak as well.  Efforts are pretty much worthless if they have a few stam potions and you don't, and they decide to run.

7. Exploring is rewarding? as someone who loves exploring and has mapped 3/4ths of the world so far, I disagree.  Everything feels 'copied and pasted' 100 times over. 

Not trying to be a skeptic, but those trying to sell the game with euphemism should be put back down to reality before people waste money.

Here is a bit more simple explanation of Darkfall.

In other words it's what you make it to be with toys inside.

Originally posted by TalRasha

There there, don't cry 

 No one should endure what you have. Playing AoC 21 hours this week? That will put anyone in a crying mood.

I felt like picking up a game again, and only had WoW and AoC available. All the other game boxes i threw away whilst cleaning the attic in Dember. So far i'm having fun again but i won't talk about that game here

Please do not compare Darkfall with Dark and Light. I am sure that this game will need those that cannot use their head as well as those that can....... If memory serves me right DnL was way to hard for most to understand never mind playing it without at least two people holding hands. LMAO Look mommy no hands........... Points to the Bouncing sign "EXIT STAGE RIGHT" 

LMAO i love this place......................