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  Ascension08

Novice Member

Joined: 3/12/08
Posts: 2009

"Silence is golden, duct tape is silver, but the White Border of Darkfall rules over all!"

 
2/11/09 9:35:16 PM#1

*Shakes head in disappointment*

Honestly Mythic, I expected you to have more than this. I mean look at this quote:

"Well here it is; The Public Test Patch Notes for Game Update 1.2. Many hours of blood, sweat and tears went into these notes, and it shows. From the sheer size (over 55 pages!) to the numerous improvements being implemented, it's all been a labor of love (or was that WAAAGH!). In the notes below you'll see over 500 bug fixes, 10 plus pages of career balancing, numerous RvR improvements, UI improvements, continued building on our success with improving performance and server stability and a considerable review of our dungeon loot itemization. While these notes are still technically a "work in progress" they represent the majority of the changes that will be implemented with Game Update 1.2. Please keep in mind, these notes are for the public test server and can change periodically throughout the Public Testing Process."

Pathetic.

Hope they have more than this.

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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"

Order of the White Border.

  skeaser

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Joined: 6/13/07
Posts: 3307

Don't die mad, just die.

2/11/09 9:38:11 PM#2


A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.
-Friedrich Nietzsche

  dominia

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Joined: 12/31/06
Posts: 177

2/11/09 9:39:08 PM#3

"geezess....."

"you said it man, nobody messes with tha Jesus."

Currently Playing: SWTOR
Retired: Shadowbane, DAoC, WoW, FFXI, Eve Online

  Ascension08

Novice Member

Joined: 3/12/08
Posts: 2009

"Silence is golden, duct tape is silver, but the White Border of Darkfall rules over all!"

 
2/11/09 9:40:28 PM#4
Originally posted by skeaser

Very nice visual aid friend

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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"

Order of the White Border.

  skeaser

Novice Member

Joined: 6/13/07
Posts: 3307

Don't die mad, just die.

2/11/09 9:45:07 PM#5
Originally posted by Ascension08
Originally posted by skeaser

Very nice visual aid friend

 

I do what I can.

Seriously though, I didn't read the whole patch notes, but I did skim through and the amount of work Mythic seems to be putting in is really tempting me to reactivate my account in the near future, the only thing turning me away is the scenarios. If Mythic would remove scenarios, even if on one or two servers, I would be back in a heartbeat.

When I did play, I enjoyed when I could get a party for open RvR, however, that was near impossible as it seemed everyone was scenario grinding the levels, which also made PQ groups hard to find and again, I found the PQ system to be a very enjoyable change from the norm. While it could get repetitive having to do some PQs multiple times to maximize rewards, I enjoy scripted encounters like those.


A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.
-Friedrich Nietzsche

  Newhopes

Novice Member

Joined: 9/21/08
Posts: 464

2/12/09 2:54:51 AM#6

I just hope they don't screw up like they did with the last patches.

  Pheace

Novice Member

Joined: 12/17/03
Posts: 2434

You can either agree with me or be wrong!

2/12/09 3:02:37 AM#7

What's the worst that can happen? They add a second or two of castlag to the current lag? :)

  Newhopes

Novice Member

Joined: 9/21/08
Posts: 464

2/12/09 3:42:47 AM#8
Originally posted by Pheace

What's the worst that can happen? They add a second or two of castlag to the current lag? :)


 

No from what i've read of the patch notes WL's have been nerfed to the point where there next to useless and at the same time they buffed the marauder, and while WE get a nerfed WH are been nerfed even harder it just makes me wonder if Mythic know what the hell there doing.

  Pheace

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Joined: 12/17/03
Posts: 2434

You can either agree with me or be wrong!

2/12/09 3:46:22 AM#9

One of the dangers with making massive patches. It's hard to balance class changes against eachother when you add them all at once.

It's also hard to find bugs you introduce with a patch if you introduce a thousand things that can go wrong.

 

It probably would have been better to have done it in small bites along the way rather than save them up for a huge patch. Although this way it'll give that sense of "Wow, the game has really changed", albeit that's a double edged sword and when done poorly could alienate people as much as charm them.

 

It'll be interesting to see what happens :)

  Axxar

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Joined: 12/09/08
Posts: 598

"Go inside. Tell them you are the Avatar."

2/12/09 6:23:16 AM#10

 WL Fetch nerf was long overdue. Patch notes looking great overall.

  Keeper2000

Novice Member

Joined: 9/11/06
Posts: 647

2/12/09 10:58:53 AM#11

The patch itself looks very promising.  But, for me, the most important is that Zone Control Domination is in it!!!  

Now... if 1.3 will have siege and keep improvement (to, at least, reach DAoC's level of complexity), then I will be very happy.

 

  mcquaided

Novice Member

Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 169

IM WATCHING YOU!

2/12/09 11:46:49 AM#12

whats so great about the patch notes.  ALL OF THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED IN BETA YOU ALL KNOW THAT. SO WHY MAKE A BIG DEAL ABOUT THEM . YOU BEEN PLAYING A ALPHA RELEASE OF THE GAME AND NOW WITH THESE PATCHES IT WILL BE CLOSE TO BETA. NOT EVEN.

 

FIX THE GAME DARNIT IT SUCKS AS BAD AS DARK AND LIGHT.

 

 

VAPORWARE VAPORWARE

Im going to sell you a dream.

  neller2000

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Joined: 8/04/07
Posts: 136

2/12/09 1:30:34 PM#13
Originally posted by mcharj11

Mate, are you 13 or something?

You are whining like a child over something that you obviously have no intention of playing.


 

And you people are celebrating something that should have been fixed and added at least 3 months prior to the game even launching as an expansion pack. Some new content and some word on how exactly they plan on taking the game from the gutter and stop it from losing subscribers would have been better than 2 new classes and a fluff dungeon.

Oh look, WoW has a new expansion out. It's free too! They're calling it "500 bug fixes" and it's sure to be a top hit this summer! See how amazingly stupid it sounds to call something like that an expansion pack?

  Cryptor

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Joined: 10/03/06
Posts: 361

2/12/09 1:34:42 PM#14

Every time I read a thread on this forum I die a little inside.

There is new clasess, new Tomb Kings based area, new mounts, new scenario, new live events, new quests, etc.. etc.. and people on here still claim that its nothing more than a bunch of bug fixes.

 

This place scares me.

 

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  Hrica

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Joined: 3/31/05
Posts: 981

"Yesterday is history, Tomorrow a mystery, and today is a gift"

2/12/09 1:39:07 PM#15

The sheer fun that the live events have had on this game has kept my family up way to long past lights out on work nights

The game is just getting funner and funner, or should I say better and better.

  xbellx777

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Joined: 9/18/08
Posts: 731

2/12/09 1:40:27 PM#16
Originally posted by neller2000
Originally posted by mcharj11

Mate, are you 13 or something?

You are whining like a child over something that you obviously have no intention of playing.


 

And you people are celebrating something that should have been fixed and added at least 3 months prior to the game even launching as an expansion pack. Some new content and some word on how exactly they plan on taking the game from the gutter and stop it from losing subscribers would have been better than 2 new classes and a fluff dungeon.

Oh look, WoW has a new expansion out. It's free too! They're calling it "500 bug fixes" and it's sure to be a top hit this summer! See how amazingly stupid it sounds to call something like that an expansion pack?

 the point i think he is trying to make is that mythic it trying to fix everything wrong with it and to criticize that the game was not perfect at launch is a little ridiculous. the thing is that mythic is trying to fix the game if you want to refute that point then go look through the patch notes and you'll see that they are working their butts off

  Axxar

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Joined: 12/09/08
Posts: 598

"Go inside. Tell them you are the Avatar."

2/12/09 1:40:42 PM#17

 Balance patches are my favourite kind of patches. The tears of horrible players have been flowing freely all day across the WHA boards as they whine about any real or perceived nerf to their class (as well as buffs to other classes). It's really good stuff and I never get tired of reading the massive amounts of delusional whine posts.

  haggus71

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/19/07
Posts: 260

2/12/09 1:42:57 PM#18

@caps-boi:  When you yell, people pay attention not to what you are saying, but that you are yelling. Caps Lock FTL.

I'm playing WAR, and have issues with the game, but because of taste.  I just don't like it that much.  However, as far as its release, maintenance and additions, they have done a fine job.  All the basics of gameplay ran going out the door, and Mythic does listen to people when they complain about something, and fix it SOON.  This is a lot better than other companies who wait for the bugs to pick away at their rep before they fix them. 

How about reading what the expansion has: 2 classes and new areas to play.  You fail by comparing these FREE expansions to WotLK, which, guess what? you had to pay for!  Are you paying for these classes and new areas?  Oh, I'm sorry, no you aren't. 

Push hyperbole a bit less, quit caps-trolling, and pay attention more.  The gameplay may not be for everyone, but EA/Mythic are doing a better job than most with maintaining their game.

  Hrica

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/31/05
Posts: 981

"Yesterday is history, Tomorrow a mystery, and today is a gift"

2/12/09 1:43:07 PM#19
Originally posted by Cryptor

Every time I read a thread on this forum I die a little inside.

There is new clasess, new Tomb Kings based area, new mounts, new scenario, new live events, new quests, etc.. etc.. and people on here still claim that its nothing more than a bunch of bug fixes.

 

This place scares me.

 


 

Amen to that bro

Some times I think this place just feeds of hate.

  xbellx777

Novice Member

Joined: 9/18/08
Posts: 731

2/12/09 1:48:27 PM#20
Originally posted by Cryptor

Every time I read a thread on this forum I die a little inside.

There is new clasess, new Tomb Kings based area, new mounts, new scenario, new live events, new quests, etc.. etc.. and people on here still claim that its nothing more than a bunch of bug fixes.

 

This place scares me.

 

lol agreed

  Axxar

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/09/08
Posts: 598

"Go inside. Tell them you are the Avatar."

2/12/09 2:04:28 PM#21
Originally posted by Hrica
Originally posted by Cryptor

Every time I read a thread on this forum I die a little inside.

There is new clasess, new Tomb Kings based area, new mounts, new scenario, new live events, new quests, etc.. etc.. and people on here still claim that its nothing more than a bunch of bug fixes.

 

This place scares me.

 


 

Amen to that bro

Some times I think this place just feeds of hate.

I think you're right :) Personally I find it pretty amusing though. Whenever there's goods news from Mythic the first thing I look forward to seeing is how people will attempt to spin it into something negative.

  User Deleted
2/12/09 2:06:12 PM#22

Note to two of the posters above:

The original post is all about sarcasm. It is very clear from his post and other posts in this thread (including the over-sizes sarcasm detector in the 2nd post). Just so nobody takes it too serious.

  Axxar

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/09/08
Posts: 598

"Go inside. Tell them you are the Avatar."

2/12/09 2:10:10 PM#23
Originally posted by templarga

Note to two of the posters above:

The original post is all about sarcasm. It is very clear from his post and other posts in this thread (including the over-sizes sarcasm detector in the 2nd post). Just so nobody takes it too serious.

Indeed, but he's very much on the mark with his sarcasm.

  Spiritof55

Novice Member

Joined: 4/26/05
Posts: 414

2/12/09 2:30:51 PM#24

Geezus, update 1.2 contains tons of stuff!  Fixes, new content, balancing, new classes, new quests, new RVR incentives, GUI enhancements and changes, crafting changes, new loot drops.......I'm pleasantly suprised and may resub today.

Say what you want about the game but mythic is a quality studio in my opinion.  I get the impression they really care and try hard to keep their current customers happy.  *

 

 

 

* there is no sarcasm in this post

  neller2000

Novice Member

Joined: 8/04/07
Posts: 136

2/12/09 3:10:03 PM#25
Originally posted by haggus71

@caps-boi:  When you yell, people pay attention not to what you are saying, but that you are yelling. Caps Lock FTL.

I'm playing WAR, and have issues with the game, but because of taste.  I just don't like it that much.  However, as far as its release, maintenance and additions, they have done a fine job.  All the basics of gameplay ran going out the door, and Mythic does listen to people when they complain about something, and fix it SOON.  This is a lot better than other companies who wait for the bugs to pick away at their rep before they fix them. 

How about reading what the expansion has: 2 classes and new areas to play.  You fail by comparing these FREE expansions to WotLK, which, guess what? you had to pay for!  Are you paying for these classes and new areas?  Oh, I'm sorry, no you aren't. 

Push hyperbole a bit less, quit caps-trolling, and pay attention more.  The gameplay may not be for everyone, but EA/Mythic are doing a better job than most with maintaining their game.


 

WoTLK didn't contain classes that were promised with the release of WoW either did it. WoTLK didn't primarily consist of bug fixes to the core game either did it. WoTLK didn't just release a new dungeon either did it.

Yes, release and maintenance went great, maybe they should work on putting in a whopping pile of content at once to stop people from leaving in droves due to lack of stuff to do, especially at endgame.

The whole point many people are trying to make is that it's borderline spitting you in the face calling something as minor as this an EXPANSION, when it was something that should have been done at release and just patched in along the way. There's absolutely nothing in it that shouldn't have been there at release. At best it should be called a large patch.

If the game ever releases a real expansion pack, what are they going to call that then? Expansion 2.0?

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