Yes Enola.  That fight was during the patch time when FPS was cut by over half for almost everyone testing.  80 fps went to around 30 fps.  Prior to that patch there were 40 ish person fights that ran just fine.  Now that has been fixed and 30 fps is back up to 80 fps.  Hopefully another test can be run soon.

To summarize though, yes that is exactly the case.

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

Originally posted by EnolaGay

The title says it all....
70% of DF Beta Testers feel game isn’t ready - Needs to be delayed.

You can guess where I got this information from..... and a 10 second Google search should confirm my post.
 

I was the biggest DF fanboi of them all..... back in 2005 I got my whole L2 clan signed up on the forums waiting for beta that was promised to be SOOON.
 

Most of the DEV/website promised content isn’t in this “BETA”. Either its in and disabled and they aren’t planning on testing it or it simply doesn’t exist.
Most of the DEV/Website promised skills arent in this “BETA” either they are in and disabled and not planning on being tested or they simply don’t exist.

On and On...

When are they planning on testing or developing all this stuff? Its been 8 years and it looks like all they did in that time was World-Build.

From what I have seen and the info from the Noob Comic stating that there are only about 1100 testers, Darkfall seems to be in some sort of Alpha-Beta testing stage and gearing up to do a PAID BETA

To say I am disappointed would be an understatement
 

 

If you are not a beta tester, you wont understand. The testers are loving the game, its more than just a world. However, many see these rabid haters who have no clue what they are talking about via forums. Its not hard to say "delay the game until we test all the features and squash the bugs." Essentially OP, you are turning a neutral poll into a means to be negative. This is a big undertaking by a small company, this is their first mmorpg. Did you know team fortress 2 was in development since 1998? Prey took over 10 years to develop? Games like WoW were in production long before it was announced. Just saying you cannot judge a game by how long it takes to ship what they feel is a finished product. Most mainstream games with bigger budgets and bigger teams take anywhere from 4-6 years to develop a mmorpg. The bigger and more complicated the game, the more it cost, the more time is needed. Games are better when they are delayed, rather than released early, which happens way too often with these big publishers.

We can all agree it wasnt very smart of Aventurine to give a release date to begin with, like Blizzard they should keep it in TBA status. The haters calling it vaporware didnt help, and probably influenced Aventurine to give a release date when they shouldnt have. Either way, they have learned not to bother with the average gamer, because as many of you have shown them, you are not reasonable. People over the internet are just retards at times. 

Anyways, just dont judge the game till its released. Dont judge it because of its development time, that doesnt matter, especially when you look at the facts. Dont judge it because a developer is trying to do PR and did a bad job at it. Judge the game as a game for a game when its released.

I am not a rabid hater, I am just very disappointed in the product after waiting so long for it

it's ok, there are plenty of people who didn't read or mis-read the various dev journals over the years and who then hyped the game in their own heads to the point that no game in history would ever satisfy.

unrealistic expectations ftlose.

if on the other hand, you were expecting a full freedom unrestricted PVP sandbox with realtime combat in a stunningly realistic and brutal world then you'd be as happy as the rest of us.

Originally posted by ProfRed

Yes Enola.  That fight was during the patch time when FPS was cut by over half for almost everyone testing.  80 fps went to around 30 fps.  Prior to that patch there were 40 ish person fights that ran just fine.  Now that has been fixed and 30 fps is back up to 80 fps.  Hopefully another test can be run soon.

To summarize though, yes that is exactly the case.

Im going to have to disagree with you…
There are still lag issues with larger scale pvp, in my opinion, and in the opinion of other testers as well… read the forums.

But yes hopefully anther test can be run soon.   However we may never know since they cant seem to keep build 119 online hahahahahahah
 

But hey.. maybe build 119/120 is the super patch everyone is waiting for to complete the game…. Something big has to be going on since the server has been down since monday

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Originally posted by ProfRed

Yes Enola.  That fight was during the patch time when FPS was cut by over half for almost everyone testing.  80 fps went to around 30 fps.  Prior to that patch there were 40 ish person fights that ran just fine.  Now that has been fixed and 30 fps is back up to 80 fps.  Hopefully another test can be run soon.

To summarize though, yes that is exactly the case.

 

Im going to have to disagree with you…
There are still lag issues with larger scale pvp, in my opinion, and in the opinion of other testers as well… read the forums.

 

But yes hopefully anther test can be run soon.   However we may never know since they cant seem to keep build 119 online hahahahahahah
 

Large scale pvp is not going to be great if you are in the US. End of story.

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

<snip>
 

 

If you are not a beta tester, you wont understand. The testers are loving the game, its more than just a world. However, many see these rabid haters who have no clue what they are talking about via forums. Its not hard to say "delay the game until we test all the features and squash the bugs." Essentially OP, you are turning a neutral poll into a means to be negative. This is a big undertaking by a small company, this is their first mmorpg. Did you know team fortress 2 was in development since 1998? Prey took over 10 years to develop? Games like WoW were in production long before it was announced. Just saying you cannot judge a game by how long it takes to ship what they feel is a finished product. Most mainstream games with bigger budgets and bigger teams take anywhere from 4-6 years to develop a mmorpg. The bigger and more complicated the game, the more it cost, the more time is needed. Games are better when they are delayed, rather than released early, which happens way too often with these big publishers.

We can all agree it wasnt very smart of Aventurine to give a release date to begin with, like Blizzard they should keep it in TBA status. The haters calling it vaporware didnt help, and probably influenced Aventurine to give a release date when they shouldnt have. Either way, they have learned not to bother with the average gamer, because as many of you have shown them, you are not reasonable. People over the internet are just retards at times. 

Anyways, just dont judge the game till its released. Dont judge it because of its development time, that doesnt matter, especially when you look at the facts. Dont judge it because a developer is trying to do PR and did a bad job at it. Judge the game as a game for a game when its released.

This.

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Originally posted by dimmit77

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Originally posted by dimmit77

Originally posted by EnolaGay

 

From what I have seen and the info from the Noob Comic stating that there are only about 1100 testers, Darkfall seems to be in some sort of Alpha-Beta testing stage and gearing up to do a PAID BETA

 

 

You guys are debating a post from someone who gets his info from Noob comic. I rest my case.

 

The Noob Comic was one of the first to get access to Darkfall.. even BEFORE beta…. They have also been invited to AV studios.

Why wouldn’t you take info from the Noob Comic?
 

You really dont know shit about DF do you?

 

Nope don't really follow DF that much. As for noob comic......you don't really expect me to try to explain you why it isn't a reliable source of information , do you?

 

If its so unrealizable then why has Darkfall continuously used the Noob Comic as their mouthpiece when releasing offical information, why do they grant them interviews, why did they invite them to the studio.

Why did AV lift the NDA for them so they could right articles about Darkfall Beta?
 

If they are so unreliable??????

Because Gianna is Tasos fucking friend, not to mention her site is hosted by Tasos/Aventurine. NOW who doesn't know shit about Darkfail? I'd say YOU!

It's clear emotion is playing a large part of both sides of these arguments.  Maybe we should take a step back and give someone a hug. 

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Originally posted by dimmit77

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Originally posted by dimmit77

Originally posted by EnolaGay

 

From what I have seen and the info from the Noob Comic stating that there are only about 1100 testers, Darkfall seems to be in some sort of Alpha-Beta testing stage and gearing up to do a PAID BETA

 

 

You guys are debating a post from someone who gets his info from Noob comic. I rest my case.

 

The Noob Comic was one of the first to get access to Darkfall.. even BEFORE beta…. They have also been invited to AV studios.

Why wouldn’t you take info from the Noob Comic?
 

You really dont know shit about DF do you?

 

Nope don't really follow DF that much. As for noob comic......you don't really expect me to try to explain you why it isn't a reliable source of information , do you?

 

If its so unrealizable then why has Darkfall continuously used the Noob Comic as their mouthpiece when releasing offical information, why do they grant them interviews, why did they invite them to the studio.

Why did AV lift the NDA for them so they could right articles about Darkfall Beta?
 

If they are so unreliable??????

 

Because Gianna is Tasos fucking friend, not to mention her site is hosted by Tasos/Aventurine. NOW who doesn't know shit about Darkfail? I'd say YOU!

Ummm...I don’t really understand your point? Wouldnt that make the Noob Comic more reliable? Or are you saying that Noob Comic is unreliable because Tasos/Aventurine are unreliable.

Are you saying the Noob Comic articles about beta are bogus and unreliable?

Originally posted by javac

link?

 

and yet 90% of testers have also said they would pre-order.

conclusion: it's an awesome game that still has a number of rough edges. just like every MMO ever released?
 

btw, almost all content has been enabled for some weeks now... a lot of it is on the web, you should try looking for it?

 

 

I could well believe 90% of beta testers think the game needs more work.. yet also be the *same* 90% that buy it anyway. Thick but so horribly true of  the very fickle and undiscerning majority of any MMO players.

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Originally posted by dimmit77

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Originally posted by dimmit77

Originally posted by EnolaGay

 

From what I have seen and the info from the Noob Comic stating that there are only about 1100 testers, Darkfall seems to be in some sort of Alpha-Beta testing stage and gearing up to do a PAID BETA

 

 

You guys are debating a post from someone who gets his info from Noob comic. I rest my case.

 

The Noob Comic was one of the first to get access to Darkfall.. even BEFORE beta…. They have also been invited to AV studios.

Why wouldn’t you take info from the Noob Comic?
 

You really dont know shit about DF do you?

 

Nope don't really follow DF that much. As for noob comic......you don't really expect me to try to explain you why it isn't a reliable source of information , do you?

 

If its so unrealizable then why has Darkfall continuously used the Noob Comic as their mouthpiece when releasing offical information, why do they grant them interviews, why did they invite them to the studio.

Why did AV lift the NDA for them so they could right articles about Darkfall Beta?
 

If they are so unreliable??????

 

Because Gianna is Tasos fucking friend, not to mention her site is hosted by Tasos/Aventurine. NOW who doesn't know shit about Darkfail? I'd say YOU!

 

Ummm...I don’t really understand your point? Wouldnt that make the Noob Comic more reliable? Or are you saying that Noob Comic is unreliable because Tasos/Aventurine are unreliable.

Are you saying the Noob Comic articles about beta are bogus and unreliable?

Lets but it this way. my actor friend would NEVER ask me to do a review. Why ?

Because it not going to be taken as a valid appraisal. No objectivity. Even if I did a Vulcan mind conditioning and was cooly logical... no one else would accept that. Plus I'd probably say he was great even if he was shit.

Mixing buisness and pleasure is a big no ...no.

There lies the problem with the noob reviews. Well couple that with infrequent updates and articles which never delivered the material promised previously. Whilst of course shunning any mainstream MMO review site..... hmmmmm nice move Aventurine.... erm... not

Originally posted by tombear81

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Originally posted by dimmit77

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Originally posted by dimmit77

Originally posted by EnolaGay

 

From what I have seen and the info from the Noob Comic stating that there are only about 1100 testers, Darkfall seems to be in some sort of Alpha-Beta testing stage and gearing up to do a PAID BETA

 

 

You guys are debating a post from someone who gets his info from Noob comic. I rest my case.

 

The Noob Comic was one of the first to get access to Darkfall.. even BEFORE beta…. They have also been invited to AV studios.

Why wouldn’t you take info from the Noob Comic?
 

You really dont know shit about DF do you?

 

Nope don't really follow DF that much. As for noob comic......you don't really expect me to try to explain you why it isn't a reliable source of information , do you?

 

If its so unrealizable then why has Darkfall continuously used the Noob Comic as their mouthpiece when releasing offical information, why do they grant them interviews, why did they invite them to the studio.

Why did AV lift the NDA for them so they could right articles about Darkfall Beta?
 

If they are so unreliable??????

 

Because Gianna is Tasos fucking friend, not to mention her site is hosted by Tasos/Aventurine. NOW who doesn't know shit about Darkfail? I'd say YOU!

 

Ummm...I don’t really understand your point? Wouldnt that make the Noob Comic more reliable? Or are you saying that Noob Comic is unreliable because Tasos/Aventurine are unreliable.

Are you saying the Noob Comic articles about beta are bogus and unreliable?

 

Lets but it this way. my actor friend would NEVER ask me to do a review. Why ?

Because it not going to be taken as a valid appraisal. No objectivity. Even if I did a Vulcan mind conditioning and was cooly logical... no one else would accept that. Plus I'd probably say he was great even if he was shit.

Mixing buisness and pleasure is a big no ...no.

There lies the problem with the noob reviews. Well couple that with infrequent updates and articles which never delivered the material promised previously. Whilst of course shunning any mainstream MMO review site..... hmmmmm nice move Aventurine.... erm... not

Ok....I agree..... but the only place I sourced the Noob Comic was for 1200 beta tester number...... was she lying?
 

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Really?

 

I know for a fact , Boats haven’t been tested, no one on the server has even seen siege gear, player housing hasnt been enabled, NPC hireling, and pets are out, race specific bonuses aren’t in yet. There are only like 5 types of armor in the game right now……

Should I continue?

 

Um, yes, continue. Along with what doesn't work give us a list of what does work so we can become as informed as you. Don't just give the negative but the positive as well. I want to hear objectiviteness, not bias.