Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by LeKinK

Imo, awful players see awful players everywhere.  Good players see good players.  A good player calling someone else bad make me think he is not that good.  A player that help someone else is a good player... I could go on here..

There are lots of ways of telling if someone is a good player or not.  Stroking your ego make you an average one. (You are in the biggest group tho, nothing to be shame of)

 

what are you even talking about? i'm talking about pvp

are you talking about me helping someone defeat the evil cow, or lizard mob?

or complete a quest to vanquish the 10 crabs on the beach shore?

... i'm a bit confused?

and stroking my ego makes me an average one? lol.. ok pal

You do realize you re getting worked up about a game and how you feel you re better then most ? That is kinda dorky. Not trying to be an ass, just stating the obvious.
 

Alright, let's forget all of this.

Let's nominate the worst Darkfall Fanboi on the site. (Could also be considered the best Darkfall Fanboi).

I nominate originalegg, for his legendary fanboism across all DF information and dates.

Originally posted by Lizard_SF

Since Darkfall is an extremely niche game, it would not surprise me at all if it costs more than comparable games; the fewer customers you have, the more you need to charge each one. Where ELSE are you going to go, fans of full loot FFA PVP? EVE? If it was what you wanted, you'd be playing it. Shadowbane? Ditto. Mortal Online? Not even close to release. Either you play Darkfall, whatever they charge, or you play nothing.

I think Aventurine is being very foolish; they're targeting a game which requires long-term commitment at the most mayfly-like segment of the audience. Further, as WAR has shown, PVP games require a dense population; combining the large area of the Darkfall world with the likely small population base means few "random encounters" with other players outside of key area, and that means those few who DO play won't get what they signed up for. The UO world was teeny-weeny, as compared to modern MMOs, and densely populated; you won't see that in DF, so those expecting a repeat of the UO playstyle are setting themselves up for serious disappointment.

I agree with you. We don`t have a home and Darkfall is the only place we can get some shelter. The game is bad, but it has the full-loot part that we need. I hope I`ll find some empty place if DF release, because I manage to be killed every half hour.

lol...the ego's in this thread are truly sad........

Originally posted by Soki123

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by LeKinK

Imo, awful players see awful players everywhere.  Good players see good players.  A good player calling someone else bad make me think he is not that good.  A player that help someone else is a good player... I could go on here..

There are lots of ways of telling if someone is a good player or not.  Stroking your ego make you an average one. (You are in the biggest group tho, nothing to be shame of)

 

what are you even talking about? i'm talking about pvp

are you talking about me helping someone defeat the evil cow, or lizard mob?

or complete a quest to vanquish the 10 crabs on the beach shore?

... i'm a bit confused?

and stroking my ego makes me an average one? lol.. ok pal

You do realize you re getting worked up about a game and how you feel you re better then most ? That is kinda dorky. Not trying to be an ass, just stating the obvious.
 

i'm not getting worked up, just wasting some time in a forum or two.

I'll be honest, that shouldnt be a surprise to anyone. There is global recession. Also, we have to accounnt for yearly inflation. MMOs were $15/month 4 yrs ago, why should we expect them to cost the same 4 yrs from now?

Originally posted by Turnell

I'll be honest, that shouldnt be a surprise to anyone. There is global recession. Also, we have to accounnt for yearly inflation. MMOs were $15/month 4 yrs ago, why should we expect them to cost the same 4 yrs from now?

Well in case you can't read a calender this is NOT 4 years FROM NOW.

$15/mo is for a AAA game and I sure as hell wouldn't pay $18 for some basement programmer crap that is in late alpha / early beta.

Hell if Blizzard went to $18 tomorrow I would venture that they would loose half of their user base and have to struggle by on only 5.5 million subs

Please, gobal recession?? yearly inflation?? I don't know about your data but my data shows thatt the cost of internet service and hosting has steadily gone down in the last 4 years so that is not a factor in hosting a game.

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by LeKinK

Imo, awful players see awful players everywhere.  Good players see good players.  A good player calling someone else bad make me think he is not that good.  A player that help someone else is a good player... I could go on here..

There are lots of ways of telling if someone is a good player or not.  Stroking your ego make you an average one. (You are in the biggest group tho, nothing to be shame of)

 

what are you even talking about? i'm talking about pvp 

are you talking about me helping someone defeat the evil cow, or lizard mob? 

or complete a quest to vanquish the 10 crabs on the beach shore?

... i'm a bit confused?

and stroking my ego makes me an average one? lol.. ok pal

You missed the first 3 letters. IMO mean "in my opinion" and my opinion is still the same.  I don't play pve game anymore so yea I am also talking about pvp! 

There was a guy back when wow started that was always saying he could kill anyone with his druid and how uber he was...  We met accidently in the wild and I handed him his ass 3 times in a row with my warrior. He actually made several cross faction alt to try to insult me afterwards. It was both funny and pathetic to see. That how I felt reading your first post I quoted. 

Beleive it or not, a dog that bark a lot rarely attack.

Alright I know this is kinda mean but I like to tell egohungry people how they are not so special but more like everyone else. It is not really an insult it is more like a reality check. 

FYI, I know I am not better or worse, just down to earth.  And yea I confuse people a lot on the internet.

Edit: meh..

Originally posted by EvolvedMonky

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

b)They are "elite", special, the best of the best, much superior to all the "WoW babies" and "carebears".

 

very true, we are elite, special and the best of the best

the people who excel at pvp , excel at knowing game mechanics and character control, are obviously far superior then the wow babies and carebears

just look at daoc for example, if you didn't have a clue, you sucked

point n case, for years until its pop got so bad that they gave all sorts of new ways to get RPs the average player never even got to rr 5 , where as a good player could obtain that in a week or two

also the ability to jump on any class, and make it work without ever playing it before

i remember jumping from a tank to a healer (guild member wasn't on) never played before, and running our group threw the night with on point mezzes and about 130k in rps in just a few hours , we deserve a legit game that isn't dumbed down for the current crap mmo market... i have no clue if this will be it, but we need it soon, our generation is dwindling from bordem

 

 

Dork alert.  Hate to break it to you but video games arnt hard.  And I doubt getting 130k rps will make your iq go up or women to leave there carebear husbands to jump on your epeen.

Your on the same level as someone who played pac-man for 8 hours a day to get the high score.

A sad sad day.... Check this out you might understand yourself more  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

Umm.. <tap tap>  You do realize you called someone a Dork,  this coming from some rabid MMO player that enjoys games built to challenge the average 8 year old with a fascination with the term E-Peen. 

To help back up the Elite point of view, you obviously have lived a very sheltered gaming life if you feel that all video games are simply dismissed as "not hard".

  Games can certainly be complex and challenging unless you got stuck on Video Tic Tac Toe.  There are many video games that require gaming skill to be proficient, these games tend to be more competitive than most and they certainly don't resemble some Video game Day Care where;  everyone always wins even when they lose , you can never risk anything while playing, never lose anything for making bad desicions, never learn from your mistakes because they game wraps your failures up in a pretty bow and say..." You are special".  

  Like is or not, main stream MMOs do not require alot of coordination, intellect or strategy,  these MMOs are like McDonalds, they are engineered to appeal to the taste buds of the masses with a heavy slant towards children.   The MMOs have been designed to be friendly, colorful, cute and easy to play, like ordering a Number 1 with a Diet Coke and Large Fries or digging through your Happy meal to find your phat loot.

The only problem with the McDonalds style MMOs is that they are constantly thrown around like some model of the perfect restaurant, err perfect game.   McDonalds is great but many people want something different, perhaps more complex , more spicy and something that has hard core vegetables that aren't deep fried in an instance.

It may be true that McDonalds will always server more Happy Meals than the 5 Star Neuvoe Restaurant but the customers at the Nuevo restaurant can be happy to eat elite food, and hardcore full PvP deserts away from the snot nosed unwashed masses of McWoW Zombies stumbling into the golden arches / portal for their next fix.

Originally posted by argos5

Alright, let's forget all of this.

 

Let's nominate the worst Darkfall Fanboi on the site. (Could also be considered the best Darkfall Fanboi).

 

I nominate originalegg, for his legendary fanboism across all DF information and dates.

I nominate DarthRaiden.

He talks about how haters and skeptics are not "worthy" of this piece of shit, but runs to the mods when you point out how stupid his actions are like a little girl. I'm betting alot of these "hardcore PvPers" are the same whiny little bitches, that's why there are so many warnings and deleted posts/threads here. They need Dorkfail because it's the only way they CAN be bad-asses.

Edit: And to the Dorkfail lover posing as a mod, kiss my fucking ass after you delete this.

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by argos5

Alright, let's forget all of this.

 

Let's nominate the worst Darkfall Fanboi on the site. (Could also be considered the best Darkfall Fanboi).

 

I nominate originalegg, for his legendary fanboism across all DF information and dates.

I nominate DarthRaiden.

He talks about how haters and skeptics are not "worthy" of this piece of shit, but runs to the mods when you point out how stupid his actions are like a little girl. I'm betting alot of these "hardcore PvPers" are the same whiny little bitches, that's why there are so many warnings and deleted posts/threads here. They need Dorkfail because it's the only way they CAN be bad-asses.

Edit: And to the Dorkfail lover posing as a mod, kiss my fucking ass after you delete this.

I know this is totally off-topic, and I'm sure one of the fanboi's are going to go crying to the mods to try and get someone in trouble, but.....

There are three fanboi's that seem to be more vocal then the other and always catch my attention with their lack of logical thinking, blind devotion, and just out and out gullibility for everything and anything that comes out of Tasos mouth. And they are:

downtoearth

Aragon100

DarthRaiden

I actually haven't seen much of "downtoearth" and "aragon100" lately, I wonder if it's b/c they are too embaressed by what Darkfall really is, or if they are in "beta" trying to play the game. Aragon100 especially always liked to make a big deal about the skeptics coming back after Darkfall released and apologizing...I wonder if he'll come back after the game releases and be honest enough to call a duck a duck, or if he'll still try and say that Darkfall is teh winz.

Originally posted by teddyboy420

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by argos5

Alright, let's forget all of this.

 

Let's nominate the worst Darkfall Fanboi on the site. (Could also be considered the best Darkfall Fanboi).

 

I nominate originalegg, for his legendary fanboism across all DF information and dates.

I nominate DarthRaiden.

He talks about how haters and skeptics are not "worthy" of this piece of shit, but runs to the mods when you point out how stupid his actions are like a little girl. I'm betting alot of these "hardcore PvPers" are the same whiny little bitches, that's why there are so many warnings and deleted posts/threads here. They need Dorkfail because it's the only way they CAN be bad-asses.

Edit: And to the Dorkfail lover posing as a mod, kiss my fucking ass after you delete this.

I know this is totally off-topic, and I'm sure one of the fanboi's are going to go crying to the mods to try and get someone in trouble, but.....

There are three fanboi's that seem to be more vocal then the other and always catch my attention with their lack of logical thinking, blind devotion, and just out and out gullibility for everything and anything that comes out of Tasos mouth. And they are:

downtoearth

Aragon100

DarthRaiden

 

I actually haven't seen much of "downtoearth" and "aragon100" lately, I wonder if it's b/c they are too embaressed by what Darkfall really is, or if they are in "beta" trying to play the game. Aragon100 especially always liked to make a big deal about the skeptics coming back after Darkfall released and apologizing...I wonder if he'll come back after the game releases and be honest enough to call a duck a duck, or if he'll still try and say that Darkfall is teh winz.

My favorite is Evasion or w-e his name is.  There is only 1 truth for him and he write it. Whatever your counter argument may be, you are wrong.

The best part about this thread is it was discussged for 8+ pages on a rumor. Tasos has never said the final price is 18$.

Expect an update on the 15th.

Originally posted by ProfRed

I believe they would do 14$ ish a month for the NA release, but it is highly likely that NA players subbing to the EU version will have to pay up in euros.

This. (and one of the few times we agree).

I agree, this is the EU launch, and while they'll let anyone play, wouldn't surprise me at all if we have to pay in EU's to play.

This is Aventurine afterall, and they don't do anything like anyone else.

And I really think they need the money.

14 Euro seems to be a fair price. It is an European game and they do not have to take into account the dollar. The official US release might have an adjusted price.

Originally posted by rutaq

Originally posted by EvolvedMonky

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

b)They are "elite", special, the best of the best, much superior to all the "WoW babies" and "carebears".

 

very true, we are elite, special and the best of the best

the people who excel at pvp , excel at knowing game mechanics and character control, are obviously far superior then the wow babies and carebears

just look at daoc for example, if you didn't have a clue, you sucked

point n case, for years until its pop got so bad that they gave all sorts of new ways to get RPs the average player never even got to rr 5 , where as a good player could obtain that in a week or two

also the ability to jump on any class, and make it work without ever playing it before

i remember jumping from a tank to a healer (guild member wasn't on) never played before, and running our group threw the night with on point mezzes and about 130k in rps in just a few hours , we deserve a legit game that isn't dumbed down for the current crap mmo market... i have no clue if this will be it, but we need it soon, our generation is dwindling from bordem

 

 

Dork alert.  Hate to break it to you but video games arnt hard.  And I doubt getting 130k rps will make your iq go up or women to leave there carebear husbands to jump on your epeen.

Your on the same level as someone who played pac-man for 8 hours a day to get the high score.

A sad sad day.... Check this out you might understand yourself more  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

 

Umm.. <tap tap>  You do realize you called someone a Dork,  this coming from some rabid MMO player that enjoys games built to challenge the average 8 year old with a fascination with the term E-Peen. 

To help back up the Elite point of view, you obviously have lived a very sheltered gaming life if you feel that all video games are simply dismissed as "not hard".

  Games can certainly be complex and challenging unless you got stuck on Video Tic Tac Toe.  There are many video games that require gaming skill to be proficient, these games tend to be more competitive than most and they certainly don't resemble some Video game Day Care where;  everyone always wins even when they lose , you can never risk anything while playing, never lose anything for making bad desicions, never learn from your mistakes because they game wraps your failures up in a pretty bow and say..." You are special".  

  Like is or not, main stream MMOs do not require alot of coordination, intellect or strategy,  these MMOs are like McDonalds, they are engineered to appeal to the taste buds of the masses with a heavy slant towards children.   The MMOs have been designed to be friendly, colorful, cute and easy to play, like ordering a Number 1 with a Diet Coke and Large Fries or digging through your Happy meal to find your phat loot.

The only problem with the McDonalds style MMOs is that they are constantly thrown around like some model of the perfect restaurant, err perfect game.   McDonalds is great but many people want something different, perhaps more complex , more spicy and something that has hard core vegetables that aren't deep fried in an instance.

It may be true that McDonalds will always server more Happy Meals than the 5 Star Neuvoe Restaurant but the customers at the Nuevo restaurant can be happy to eat elite food, and hardcore full PvP deserts away from the snot nosed unwashed masses of McWoW Zombies stumbling into the golden arches / portal for their next fix.

 

you deserve an award for what you just wrote here! haha awesome

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

b)They are "elite", special, the best of the best, much superior to all the "WoW babies" and "carebears".

 

very true, we are elite, special and the best of the best

the people who excel at pvp , excel at knowing game mechanics and character control, are obviously far superior then the wow babies and carebears

just look at daoc for example, if you didn't have a clue, you sucked

point n case, for years until its pop got so bad that they gave all sorts of new ways to get RPs the average player never even got to rr 5 , where as a good player could obtain that in a week or two

also the ability to jump on any class, and make it work without ever playing it before

i remember jumping from a tank to a healer (guild member wasn't on) never played before, and running our group threw the night with on point mezzes and about 130k in rps in just a few hours , we deserve a legit game that isn't dumbed down for the current crap mmo market... i have no clue if this will be it, but we need it soon, our generation is dwindling from bordem

 

lol

Originally posted by rutaq

Originally posted by EvolvedMonky

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

b)They are "elite", special, the best of the best, much superior to all the "WoW babies" and "carebears".

 

very true, we are elite, special and the best of the best

the people who excel at pvp , excel at knowing game mechanics and character control, are obviously far superior then the wow babies and carebears

just look at daoc for example, if you didn't have a clue, you sucked

point n case, for years until its pop got so bad that they gave all sorts of new ways to get RPs the average player never even got to rr 5 , where as a good player could obtain that in a week or two

also the ability to jump on any class, and make it work without ever playing it before

i remember jumping from a tank to a healer (guild member wasn't on) never played before, and running our group threw the night with on point mezzes and about 130k in rps in just a few hours , we deserve a legit game that isn't dumbed down for the current crap mmo market... i have no clue if this will be it, but we need it soon, our generation is dwindling from bordem

 

 

Dork alert.  Hate to break it to you but video games arnt hard.  And I doubt getting 130k rps will make your iq go up or women to leave there carebear husbands to jump on your epeen.

Your on the same level as someone who played pac-man for 8 hours a day to get the high score.

A sad sad day.... Check this out you might understand yourself more  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

 

Umm.. <tap tap>  You do realize you called someone a Dork,  this coming from some rabid MMO player that enjoys games built to challenge the average 8 year old with a fascination with the term E-Peen. 

To help back up the Elite point of view, you obviously have lived a very sheltered gaming life if you feel that all video games are simply dismissed as "not hard".

  Games can certainly be complex and challenging unless you got stuck on Video Tic Tac Toe.  There are many video games that require gaming skill to be proficient, these games tend to be more competitive than most and they certainly don't resemble some Video game Day Care where;  everyone always wins even when they lose , you can never risk anything while playing, never lose anything for making bad desicions, never learn from your mistakes because they game wraps your failures up in a pretty bow and say..." You are special".  

  Like is or not, main stream MMOs do not require alot of coordination, intellect or strategy,  these MMOs are like McDonalds, they are engineered to appeal to the taste buds of the masses with a heavy slant towards children.   The MMOs have been designed to be friendly, colorful, cute and easy to play, like ordering a Number 1 with a Diet Coke and Large Fries or digging through your Happy meal to find your phat loot.

The only problem with the McDonalds style MMOs is that they are constantly thrown around like some model of the perfect restaurant, err perfect game.   McDonalds is great but many people want something different, perhaps more complex , more spicy and something that has hard core vegetables that aren't deep fried in an instance.

It may be true that McDonalds will always server more Happy Meals than the 5 Star Neuvoe Restaurant but the customers at the Nuevo restaurant can be happy to eat elite food, and hardcore full PvP deserts away from the snot nosed unwashed masses of McWoW Zombies stumbling into the golden arches / portal for their next fix.

 

I remember the last dev to say their game was steak compared to all other mmos being McDonald's. Gaute Godager, the moron responsible for AoC.

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

b)They are "elite", special, the best of the best, much superior to all the "WoW babies" and "carebears".

 

very true, we are elite, special and the best of the best

Fucking pathetic to think being good at ANY game makes you special. Oh, well. Guess people need validation for their existance wherever they can find it. Most try it in real life, though.

Originally posted by Zorvan

I remember the last dev to say their game was steak compared to all other mmos being McDonald's. Gaute Godager, the moron responsible for AoC.

AOC is steak, it just wasn't seasoned correctly