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General Discussion  » Cryptic finally discuss' details of the upcoming Trek game.

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  Khrymson

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2/08/09 1:35:09 AM#1

Source Here


They were willing to reveal that a lot of the content would be episodic and instanced. Rather than relying on collecting rat hides to drive player advancement, the team is hoping to structure the content much more like a traditional episode of Star Trek. Players will start in space, for instance, before beaming down to rescue scientists on a hostile planet, and then beaming aboard a nearby space lab to help put out fires and make some repairs before finally engaging in a climactic space battle. On the more casual side, there will be plenty of procedurally generated content for players to explore as well.


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I was interested in STO up till now, but once again another developer is failing to grasp what much of the community of gamers want! Stop with the BS instancing and seperating your players....let us play together, get to know one another. So sad.....another MMO already ruined!!!

  hellspit

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2/08/09 1:41:12 AM#2

Don't see problem in instanced game.  Making a hastle without a need.  Sounds to me just like another troll. Do not feed the troll.


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  Deivos

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2/08/09 1:43:47 AM#3

You mean to say that because they intend on keeping it true to the style of Star Trek in the first place, you don't like the game?

 

...ok...Well at least we know who doesn't like Star Trek...

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  acidworm

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2/08/09 7:31:45 PM#4

No what he's saying is this is going to be another pseudo-MMOG like WoW.

Instancing is exactly the opposite of what MMOGs should be.

  Khrymson

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2/09/09 2:39:34 AM#5


Originally posted by acidworm
No what he's saying is this is going to be another pseudo-MMOG like WoW.
Instancing is exactly the opposite of what MMOGs should be.

Yeah someone gets what I'm saying....I'm a huge trekkie, but sheesh if you're gonna make a Trek game do it right. Episodic/Instanced gameplay is not true to the trek franchise; as not every episode is just a few members on an away team.

I also dislike that you pretty much play solo and have all these other PC controlled chars that go with you, and yeah they can be replaced with real players....but seriously the avg player isn't going to wait around for that most the time.

Its just once again a solo-instanced-adventure, and then the other post saying there won't be any interiors on ships/bases/etc? Come on...thats not even Star Trek then, just a weak similarity to EVE.

  Faelan

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2/09/09 4:34:14 AM#6
Originally posted by Khrymson

 

Its just once again a solo-instanced-adventure, and then the other post saying there won't be any interiors on ships/bases/etc? Come on...thats not even Star Trek then, just a weak similarity to EVE.

 

I agree with your point of view.

However, this actually sounds more like the way PotBS is doing things than how EVE does it... and we all know what a stunning success PotBS turned out to be *cough cough hack*

Of course, to be fair... PotBS has more issues than just the solo-instanced-adventure issue, but it sure doesn't help.

They better have a lot of variety in those instances or people are gonna be bored stiff after having been to the same generic location for the 20th time. PotBS had me in a constant feeling of deja vu. Problem is, such content requires a lot more work than yet another kill some boars quest and MMO players are well known for their ability to devour content in no time flat. Not saying that boar quests is the way to go, just saying that they need to keep their own goals realistic.

Oh well... such a shame.

If there's going to be an open beta or something at some point, I'll sure give it a go, but judging from what I've read so far, I don't think this is where I'll end up spending my time.

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  Khrymson

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2/09/09 4:47:21 AM#7

I was so hoping for interiors and searching the galaxies for planets to land on, and sending an away team down....this of course would all be entirely PC controlled...no NPCs. Then when ya find something you gotta send it back up to the science team which would also be PC controlled and they examine it and figure out how it works to get through an area.

Events where you're on a mission and ur ship is getting attacked by the enemy and u have a time limit u have to survive or find a way to survive for so long on the planet until your ship can return and pick ya up...etc!

Those that get shot and injured need to be beamed to the infirmary, and of course who can forget the holo-suites for some optional training and practice!

Its all the little things that make ST what it is, and from all these interviews its not even that anymore....yeah it may have visuals resembling ST, but its not ST anymore!

  Elikal

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2/09/09 6:01:19 PM#8

Sorry but thats balderdash. Its like CoH, where all things were instanced; it totally took away the sense of playing a MMO for me. The moar I hear about STO the worse it sounds.

  dirtyklingon

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2/10/09 8:34:04 PM#9

as long as the only instances are planets i see no problem with it. i'll be dissapointed if i have to go through some portal in my starship to get from one quadrant to another.

i am ususally against instancing at all in mmogs but i don't see how they could do it any differently.

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  loyaltrekie

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2/13/09 10:29:27 AM#10

What is with all these companies and shoving instanced content down our throats...while instances allow for a lot of great things, when the majority of your game is instanced then your going down the wrong path. Honestly if I wanted to play instanced games I would go play GW, and save my 20~ USD a month.

  kingfelix

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2/13/09 9:40:44 PM#11

To me it sounds like they are getting lazy with this game and just rushing to get it out. With all the other sci-fi MMOs on the horizon, it would really behoove them to take the time to make the game that people actually want to play if they don't want it to flop. As has been seen with other games recently, that reputation is difficult to recover from.

  ktanner3

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2/14/09 7:28:16 PM#12

Once again, someone takes what the developers said and blows it out of proportion. Of course a lot of the game is instanced. How did you think people got on planets in the first place? They didn't fly shuttles there unless something was wrong with the transporter. That means an "instance" where you and your crew beam onto the planet. Did you expect to see your molecules floating from space down to the planet? There were also many portals that crew members found on planets that took them somewhere else. Again, this is keeping true with the series. I hardly find this gamebreaking.

I also fail to see what the issue is with NPC as crewmembers. If you belong to a guild, you'll have no problem grouping up on missions. Having NPCs helps those of us that don't have hours to screw around spamming the starport for groups. That is SO boring. It's a win/win for both playstyles. So again, what's the big deal?

From what I saw of the article(which I think few read before sounding the alarm) I like the direction this is going. PVE and PVP that affects the galaxy, REAL tactical combat(not the B.S that you see today) and a true economy. Can't wait.

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  User Deleted
2/14/09 7:37:53 PM#13
Originally posted by Khrymson

Source Here


They were willing to reveal that a lot of the content would be episodic and instanced. Rather than relying on collecting rat hides to drive player advancement, the team is hoping to structure the content much more like a traditional episode of Star Trek. Players will start in space, for instance, before beaming down to rescue scientists on a hostile planet, and then beaming aboard a nearby space lab to help put out fires and make some repairs before finally engaging in a climactic space battle. On the more casual side, there will be plenty of procedurally generated content for players to explore as well.


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I was interested in STO up till now, but once again another developer is failing to grasp what much of the community of gamers want! Stop with the BS instancing and seperating your players....let us play together, get to know one another. So sad.....another MMO already ruined!!!

I have to disagree here too, though I'm not a huge fan of instancing if done right it can certainly work. If missions are zoned that is something I can tolerate since watching every other player work on the same quest as you cam sometimes hurt the experience especially in a game like this when you are really supposed to be one of the only people in the area who can fix the problem now if the game world itself is zoned that would be a bad idea it's one of the things I didn't like about COH/V not only were most missions zoned but so were most of the areas which called for far too much zoning in any one session for me atleast.
 

As stated I could live with the zoning especially if it functioned much like the tutorial of LOTRO where you could literally live in that instance until you finished and entered the actual game world.

Also I'm pretty certain they have stated the game world would not be instanced and would have challenges that players can face together so I just don't see it as a really big deal. Is it a new idea? no but I also don't see it as an idea that has seen it's usefulness expire.

 

  lornj

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2/14/09 7:37:54 PM#14

ill certainly be keeping an eye on this game as i am a big trek fan. however, i will not shit my pants over some comments the devs make on the direction of the game like most people are doing. ill pass my judgement on it after open beta hits. not 2 years before.

  Brenelael

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2/14/09 8:24:50 PM#15

Yeah, Overly instanced and now no ship interiors? What are they thinking? This game will most likely bomb and we may never see another Star Trek MMO because of this game's failure. This is the whole PE horror show all over again.

 

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  Burntvet

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2/14/09 8:28:57 PM#16

This title seems to be doomed to be made into something mediocre by a developer that seems to lack the vision to do anything decent with it.

Was off my list under the last load of losers, and will stay off, if this is how it will go.

 

  Abrahmm

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2/14/09 8:41:59 PM#17

Sad to see another single-player game being developed and marked as an "MMOG".

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  loyaltrekie

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2/18/09 7:35:37 AM#18
Originally posted by lornj

ill pass my judgement on it after open beta hits. not 2 years before.

 

You are aware its due out this year right...lol.

  neodavie

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2/18/09 7:42:52 AM#19
Originally posted by Khrymson

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I was interested in STO up till now, but once again another developer is failing to grasp what much of the community of gamers want! Stop with the BS instancing and seperating your players....let us play together, get to know one another. So sad.....another MMO already ruined!!!


 

Ruined? I dunno it sounds kind of fun to me. Personally if I can do a little pew pew with my ship inbetween exploring planets the game would probably be pretty fun for me.

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  User Deleted
2/18/09 7:43:08 AM#20

It doesn't sound bad at all. I think some are just exaggerating too much about instancing. The bottom line is that until you play it you will not know if you like it or not.

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