If a corporation leaves an alliance or switches to a new alliance, the sovereignty claim on all of its towers will reset. Once re-joining their old alliance or joining a new alliance, it will take that corporation's 7 days and a downtime to start claiming sovereignty at level 1 as normal.

KenZoku alliance already claim sovereignty from the first day

Hum this is interesting. Do i hear Roll Back.

CCP won't do anything. They wave that prime directive shit every time something they can't handle comes along. They are spinless sacks of shit and we have seen it time and time again.

lets digg/make noise about this and see if we can get a CCP answer 

My guess is if they do not there gonna end up losing some folks and maybe more then they think.

Originally posted by cosy

 

If a corporation leaves an alliance or switches to a new alliance, the sovereignty claim on all of its towers will reset. Once re-joining their old alliance or joining a new alliance, it will take that corporation's 7 days and a downtime to start claiming sovereignty at level 1 as normal.

 

KenZoku alliance already claim sovereignty from the first day

Unless the corp is the Founding corp in which case that does not apply, at least it did not when my alliance was created the Executor corp was able to claim soverienty right away but my corp that joined them had that delay.

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Originally posted by cosy

 
KenZoku alliance already claim sovereignty from the first day

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L2sovereignty.

Seriously now. This is ages old. It's not an exploit, it's not a bug, it has always been that way.

If you have towers ticking for sov, but no alliance, you will hit sov1 instantly if you join an alliance.

Originally posted by batolemaeus

 

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Originally posted by cosy

 

 
KenZoku alliance already claim sovereignty from the first day

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L2sovereignty.

Seriously now. This is ages old. It's not an exploit, it's not a bug, it has always been that way.

If you have towers ticking for sov, but no alliance, you will hit sov1 instantly if you join an alliance.

then how you explain this

If a corporation leaves an alliance or switches to a new alliance, the sovereignty claim on all of its towers will reset

bob corps "leaved" a alliance  and there is no reset ?

Sir, you fail at sov.

Best explanation :

The pos's have been anchored with non-contested sov, so when the alliance was recreated there was no need to re-calulate sov. The first dt after kenzoku towers were tagged w/ the new alliance name they automitcally get sov one. This isn't a bug or miscalculation, it's how it works.

Its not a bug, its not an exploit, its exactly how its always worked. The knowledgebase is wrong, thats been known for a long time.

Originally posted by batolemaeus

 

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Originally posted by cosy

 

 
KenZoku alliance already claim sovereignty from the first day

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L2sovereignty.

Seriously now. This is ages old. It's not an exploit, it's not a bug, it has always been that way.

If you have towers ticking for sov, but no alliance, you will hit sov1 instantly if you join an alliance.

quoting for "put the fucking tinfoil hat away" truth.

Ok so after all that, BoB has its space back with a cool new name.

Originally posted by metalhead980

 

Ok so after all that, BoB has its space back with a cool new name.

 

I thought they named themselves KenZoku

Originally posted by JackDonkey

Originally posted by metalhead980

 

Ok so after all that, BoB has its space back with a cool new name.

 

 

I thought they named themselves KenZoku

Originally posted by Ex0dUs101

Sir, you fail at sov.

Best explanation :

The pos's have been anchored with non-contested sov, so when the alliance was recreated there was no need to re-calulate sov. The first dt after kenzoku towers were tagged w/ the new alliance name they automitcally get sov one. This isn't a bug or miscalculation, it's how it works.

Its not a bug, its not an exploit, its exactly how its always worked. The knowledgebase is wrong, thats been known for a long time.

this is funny part "The knowledgebase is wrong" that is official content made by CCP is like "the holy bible" i am curious what CCP will say about that  anyway CCP have to lose from this.

Originally posted by batolemaeus

 

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Originally posted by cosy

 

 
KenZoku alliance already claim sovereignty from the first day

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L2sovereignty.

Seriously now. This is ages old. It's not an exploit, it's not a bug, it has always been that way.

If you have towers ticking for sov, but no alliance, you will hit sov1 instantly if you join an alliance.

If I understand this below quoted it text it only refers to when you are claiming sov, not when you already holding sov?

"Note: All starbases require seven days and then the following downtime before they count for sovereignty within a system, with the exception of when constellation sovereignty is in play.
If a corporation leaves an alliance or switches to a new alliance, the sovereignty claim on all of its towers will reset. Once re-joining their old alliance or joining a new alliance, it will take that corporation's 7 days and a downtime to start claiming sovereignty at level 1 as normal."

Originally posted by cosy

Originally posted by Ex0dUs101

Sir, you fail at sov.

Best explanation :

The pos's have been anchored with non-contested sov, so when the alliance was recreated there was no need to re-calulate sov. The first dt after kenzoku towers were tagged w/ the new alliance name they automitcally get sov one. This isn't a bug or miscalculation, it's how it works.

Its not a bug, its not an exploit, its exactly how its always worked. The knowledgebase is wrong, thats been known for a long time.

this is funny part "The knowledgebase is wrong" that is official content made by CCP is like "the holy bible" i am curious what CCP will say about that  anyway CCP have to lose from this.

 

Seek help from a doctor my friend.

And, if it was a bug it has been happening since ages ago and it wasn't an exploit because the single reason that it can't be avoided in fact! CCP hasn't fixed it for a reason and the knowledgebase is old and incorrect in many ways. Maybe it has even happened to you! LOL

well it looks like they dont need to roll back since KenZoku (BoB) got back alot of their territory.

they have sov 1, but have lost their cynojammers, jumpbridges, capital ship assembly arrays, cyno nets, etc.

the fight is still on.

this

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=991845

which refers to this

http://www.bandofbrothers.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1421

if it's roleplaying, since when do you talk about staff having a holiday and then forwarding the same mail to kieron ?   just saying... that's not roleplay.

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Omir,

Please set the following corps to positive for the Blood Raider faction:

Black Eclipse Corp [BNC.E]
Black Nova Corp [BNC]
Reikoku [RKK]
Evolution [EVOL]
Rough-Necks Inc [RN]

We shall also soon be creating an official alliance, which we would obviously want setting to the same positive, we'll pass that information to you once it is finalised.

Pilots to receive +9.5 standings:
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oropendia
Louisa Torres
dimensionZ
CapnMordo
Prime Mover
Fourier
TinyM
Alex Capone

One more is to be forwarded to you shortly. We would also like to request that all current members of the above corps that are currently at negative standings to yourselves have their Blood Raider faction set to neutral. Also, as per our original agreement, please remove your sovereignty claim from outside the two constellations it was agreed you would settle in, particularly the system of NOL-M9.

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We would like you to use your influence within CONCORD to have the corporations "Band of Brothers" and "B.O.B Corp" struck from their register [ooc we believe that both corps are inactive and due for deletion anyway] so that we may register our official Alliance: Band of Brothers [BoB] (please see petition No050703-000172 for details).

In order to facilitate our future plans, we would like 1 Gallente Freighter.

In order to help your followers recoup from their campaign in Bleak Lands we would also like 3 bhaalgorn bpc's.

Expediency is of the essence, we look forward to hearing from you.
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Bhalgorn the faction armageddon thats half Amarr, half Minmatar that Blacklight was on about on TS the other night?

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Hi Kieron,

Welcome back (I assume u, along with most of the staff, have been on a much deserved break).

Below is a copy of the mail I sent to Omir, if you need anything else, just holler

Omir,

Please set the following corps to positive for the Blood Raider faction:

Black Eclipse Corp [BNC.E]
Black Nova Corp [BNC]
Reikoku [RKK]
Evolution [EVOL]
Rough-Necks Inc [RN]

We shall also soon be creating an official alliance, which we would obviously want setting to the same positive, we'll pass that information to you once it is finalised.

Pilots to receive +9.5 standings:
Bubbles
oropendia
Louisa Torres
dimensionZ
CapnMordo
Prime Mover
Fourier
TinyM
Alex Capone

One more is to be forwarded to you shortly. We would also like to request that all current members of the above corps that are currently at negative standings to yourselves have their Blood Raider faction set to neutral. Also, as per our original agreement, please remove your sovereignty claim from outside the two constellations it was agreed you would settle in, particularly the system of NOL-M9.

Regards,

Dianabolic

p.s. Kieron, we never sent the 10th name in.

p.p.s the sovereignty issue is ongoing, we've had numerous petitions closed (the gm's believe it is the same bug as the rest of the game is suffering, whilst it quite obviously (to us and others, anyway, not) - could you suggest to me how we could elevate this matter beyond the gm's we're having to deal with, or is there not a procedure in place for that?

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To: Tristan
Subject: RE: Conversation and agreement with Omir Sarakusa, Blood
Raiders move to Delve.

Send me a list of the characters that were supposed to get the standing
change and I'll get it fixed.

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here is dian's reply on the caod forum; however, i did include the entire thread in my above paste, as long as it hasn't been taken down, you can go to the bob link and see.  if you QQ about it being caod, expect to be flamed as a crying little baby.

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hahaha, I love it.

1 - Esoteria has more high end moons that Delve does (didn't they used to be yours? oh dear, you ccp pets!)

2 - The name wasn't reserved - we wanted it, we petitioned an inactive corp to take it back and we got it (and the ticker). This was done quite commonly at the time, you wouldn't know about that though as you weren't playing eve at the time.

3 - We've never said Delve was how it was when we moved here - CCP FORCED us to take the Blood Raider stations as part of a storyline, the rest of the thread you haven't posted will quite clearly indicate how ****ed we were, so in return we got some (poxy) standings.

4 - The letters to Kieron were AFTER the original roleplay agreement wasn't honoured - of course we could have just ignored it, or perhaps whined like little girls in a threadnaught.

Thank god we didn't take that little gem of forum art away from you goons tho, hey hey.