Originally posted by kuzseamer

i was causually scrolling down the game list when i saw this second star wars title....i did a double take...let it sink in....and then smiled from ear to ear.  i love starwars :)  i lost hope a year after the nge went through and i thoughtthe star wars mmo days were done....so i have to say just how excited i am :)  i would love to hear from other swg vets who are as excited as i am :)  this is very very good news....and i've never signed up for a beta before but if i can get into this one im there :) 

with the way soe did galaxies...it's hard for me to envision a fix on that game that would safice...and i alwaysthought they needed to try it again from scratch.....so here we go!!!!!!!

Sadly, this Star Wars game is going to be more singleplayer than anything else. Bioware makes great singleplayer games, not MMOs. You're going to have an NPC party, its going to be heavily story and instanced based, not the SWG you've been waiting for, or any of us really. Oh yeah, and it has item shops, meaning, if you want the good gear, pay real money for it. 

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by kuzseamer

i was causually scrolling down the game list when i saw this second star wars title....i did a double take...let it sink in....and then smiled from ear to ear.  i love starwars :)  i lost hope a year after the nge went through and i thoughtthe star wars mmo days were done....so i have to say just how excited i am :)  i would love to hear from other swg vets who are as excited as i am :)  this is very very good news....and i've never signed up for a beta before but if i can get into this one im there :) 

with the way soe did galaxies...it's hard for me to envision a fix on that game that would safice...and i alwaysthought they needed to try it again from scratch.....so here we go!!!!!!!

Sadly, this Star Wars game is going to be more singleplayer than anything else. Bioware makes great singleplayer games, not MMOs. You're going to have an NPC party, its going to be heavily story and instanced based, not the SWG you've been waiting for, or any of us really. Oh yeah, and it has item shops, meaning, if you want the good gear, pay real money for it. 

lol. nice try. to bad theres Dev quotes stating the exact opposite of half of the things you listed.

Originally posted by MasterCrysis

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by kuzseamer

i was causually scrolling down the game list when i saw this second star wars title....i did a double take...let it sink in....and then smiled from ear to ear.  i love starwars :)  i lost hope a year after the nge went through and i thoughtthe star wars mmo days were done....so i have to say just how excited i am :)  i would love to hear from other swg vets who are as excited as i am :)  this is very very good news....and i've never signed up for a beta before but if i can get into this one im there :) 

with the way soe did galaxies...it's hard for me to envision a fix on that game that would safice...and i alwaysthought they needed to try it again from scratch.....so here we go!!!!!!!

Sadly, this Star Wars game is going to be more singleplayer than anything else. Bioware makes great singleplayer games, not MMOs. You're going to have an NPC party, its going to be heavily story and instanced based, not the SWG you've been waiting for, or any of us really. Oh yeah, and it has item shops, meaning, if you want the good gear, pay real money for it. 

 

lol. nice try. to bad theres Dev quotes stating the exact opposite of half of the things you listed.

lol for listening to the devs. because we all know that dev word is gospel truth.

Originally posted by rage9000

Originally posted by MasterCrysis

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by kuzseamer

i was causually scrolling down the game list when i saw this second star wars title....i did a double take...let it sink in....and then smiled from ear to ear.  i love starwars :)  i lost hope a year after the nge went through and i thoughtthe star wars mmo days were done....so i have to say just how excited i am :)  i would love to hear from other swg vets who are as excited as i am :)  this is very very good news....and i've never signed up for a beta before but if i can get into this one im there :) 

with the way soe did galaxies...it's hard for me to envision a fix on that game that would safice...and i alwaysthought they needed to try it again from scratch.....so here we go!!!!!!!

Sadly, this Star Wars game is going to be more singleplayer than anything else. Bioware makes great singleplayer games, not MMOs. You're going to have an NPC party, its going to be heavily story and instanced based, not the SWG you've been waiting for, or any of us really. Oh yeah, and it has item shops, meaning, if you want the good gear, pay real money for it. 

 

lol. nice try. to bad theres Dev quotes stating the exact opposite of half of the things you listed.

 

lol for listening to the devs. because we all know that dev word is gospel truth.

yeah lets see, which is more valid.....devs at a press release or a rumor by an unknown poster on the internet......

hmmmmmmmmm......... tough call..........

Originally posted by miagisan

Originally posted by rage9000

Originally posted by MasterCrysis

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by kuzseamer

i was causually scrolling down the game list when i saw this second star wars title....i did a double take...let it sink in....and then smiled from ear to ear.  i love starwars :)  i lost hope a year after the nge went through and i thoughtthe star wars mmo days were done....so i have to say just how excited i am :)  i would love to hear from other swg vets who are as excited as i am :)  this is very very good news....and i've never signed up for a beta before but if i can get into this one im there :) 

with the way soe did galaxies...it's hard for me to envision a fix on that game that would safice...and i alwaysthought they needed to try it again from scratch.....so here we go!!!!!!!

Sadly, this Star Wars game is going to be more singleplayer than anything else. Bioware makes great singleplayer games, not MMOs. You're going to have an NPC party, its going to be heavily story and instanced based, not the SWG you've been waiting for, or any of us really. Oh yeah, and it has item shops, meaning, if you want the good gear, pay real money for it. 

 

lol. nice try. to bad theres Dev quotes stating the exact opposite of half of the things you listed.

 

lol for listening to the devs. because we all know that dev word is gospel truth.

 

yeah lets see, which is more valid.....devs at a press release or a rumor by an unknown poster on the internet......

 

hmmmmmmmmm......... tough call..........

I would say it's about even.

Originally posted by theJexster

I keep seeing people say we know nothing about the game yet. Now I could be wrong, and if I am an am sorry, but I thought I remember reading a few things about it. I am too lazy to check but I'm sure some more dedicated Wars fan will and please do prove these false is they are. This is what I thought I remember reading.

The whole game is soloable. The game will have solo aspects, but there will be group play and group missions to advance storylines, so no the whole game is not soloable.

You have a npc helper and don't need to group. You companion toons will be there to add to your story, and will leave you if they feel you aren't meeting their expectations or their morales/ideals. So they seem more as an addition to a story rather than a "group" replacement.

It puts us into the role of the action hero with the story unfolding around us. You also decide where you story is going to lead to, and the factors decided upon by you.....you wanna be the sith lord who tries to take down the sith from within, playing a good guy in the process fior the republic, you can, want to be a republic officer out for the greater good, or secretly working from within, you could. All your actions will dictate how your story unfolds, and you can't undo it. Devs have stated no 2 stories or missions will ever be alike.

I thought I remember reading this stuff on the site. If this is what they said then this is sounding like NGE like. Given I think Bio would make a NGE type SW game that was of WOW quality. The questions is do we want another wow type game or something more.

just some clarifications from dev interviews.

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Originally posted by rage9000

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Originally posted by MasterCrysis

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Originally posted by SignusM

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Originally posted by kuzseamer

i was causually scrolling down the game list when i saw this second star wars title....i did a double take...let it sink in....and then smiled from ear to ear. i love starwars :) i lost hope a year after the nge went through and i thoughtthe star wars mmo days were done....so i have to say just how excited i am :) i would love to hear from other swg vets who are as excited as i am :) this is very very good news....and i've never signed up for a beta before but if i can get into this one im there :)
with the way soe did galaxies...it's hard for me to envision a fix on that game that would safice...and i alwaysthought they needed to try it again from scratch.....so here we go!!!!!!!

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Sadly, this Star Wars game is going to be more singleplayer than anything else. Bioware makes great singleplayer games, not MMOs. You're going to have an NPC party, its going to be heavily story and instanced based, not the SWG you've been waiting for, or any of us really. Oh yeah, and it has item shops, meaning, if you want the good gear, pay real money for it.

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lol. nice try. to bad theres Dev quotes stating the exact opposite of half of the things you listed.

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lol for listening to the devs. because we all know that dev word is gospel truth.

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(Thinks about every SOE, WAR, and DF dev quote, runs out of room screaming.)

Originally posted by kuzseamer

i was causually scrolling down the game list when i saw this second star wars title....i did a double take...let it sink in....and then smiled from ear to ear.  i love starwars :)  i lost hope a year after the nge went through and i thoughtthe star wars mmo days were done....so i have to say just how excited i am :)  i would love to hear from other swg vets who are as excited as i am :)  this is very very good news....and i've never signed up for a beta before but if i can get into this one im there :) 

with the way soe did galaxies...it's hard for me to envision a fix on that game that would safice...and i alwaysthought they needed to try it again from scratch.....so here we go!!!!!!!

I am an old SWG vet as well this looks ok but in all honesty not sure it is what we've been waiting for since SOE TFOW in SWG with the NGE.  I just have such high expectations anymore for any MMO and none have delivered in recent years and none comming out look all that promising but we'll see.  To me I believe you can have a great sandbox MMO which still tells a story at the same time lets you leave your own little mark in the world, I believe that the potential for magnificent combat where your not stuck on the ground as a jedi is there something more like the Jedi Knight games where you can leap over your oponents and if your in a jetpack you can do more than hover 10 feet in the air with it, and in space craft you could actually fly around in the hemisphere to blast an At-St or whatever before going into deep space to take out a Star Destoyer, I believe we can have a digital world with the same ruleset as our own and still be civil to each other yet the thrill of a fight always beckons at your feet, I also believe we can achieve a truely complex crafting system which should support and run a player based economy (SWG and UO done a pretty good job of that at one point, Before the "uber leet loot items"), maybe I expect to much though.  I have played quite a  few MMO's in the past 12 or so years and I see so much potential and so many that could be better yet lack that I cannot get my hopes up for this game yet.  Not saying it will be bad just saying  I think they are gearing more towards the general casual gamer and not a true MMO gamer but we'll see.

I agree with the others that this isn't the return of the game that SWG was before NGE.  Honestly I don't really think that Bioware should make that game, cause it's not what they are good at.  Bioware is good at making a good story.  If they can figure out how to do that and still make a good MMO, then I'll give this one a go.  I haven't played a Bioware game I didn't like, so hopefully this one won't be the exception.

Originally posted by kuzseamer

i was causually scrolling down the game list when i saw this second star wars title....i did a double take...let it sink in....and then smiled from ear to ear.  i love starwars :)  i lost hope a year after the nge went through and i thoughtthe star wars mmo days were done....so i have to say just how excited i am :)  i would love to hear from other swg vets who are as excited as i am :)  this is very very good news....and i've never signed up for a beta before but if i can get into this one im there :) 

with the way soe did galaxies...it's hard for me to envision a fix on that game that would safice...and i alwaysthought they needed to try it again from scratch.....so here we go!!!!!!!

This game is going to be like WoW and guildwars made a baby and dressed it up in a Starwars costume.

Don't think you will like this one if ur a fan of the pre-CU

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by kuzseamer

i was causually scrolling down the game list when i saw this second star wars title....i did a double take...let it sink in....and then smiled from ear to ear.  i love starwars :)  i lost hope a year after the nge went through and i thoughtthe star wars mmo days were done....so i have to say just how excited i am :)  i would love to hear from other swg vets who are as excited as i am :)  this is very very good news....and i've never signed up for a beta before but if i can get into this one im there :) 

with the way soe did galaxies...it's hard for me to envision a fix on that game that would safice...and i alwaysthought they needed to try it again from scratch.....so here we go!!!!!!!

Sadly, this Star Wars game is going to be more singleplayer than anything else. Bioware makes great singleplayer games, not MMOs. You're going to have an NPC party, its going to be heavily story and instanced based, not the SWG you've been waiting for, or any of us really. Oh yeah, and it has item shops, meaning, if you want the good gear, pay real money for it. 

Why is it sad? I think it is fabulous. Bioware is good at making SP games, why not play to their strength?

There will be some grouping, and a lot of chatting .. and i am 100% fine with this as long as it is an entertaining game.

Originally posted by kuzseamer

i was causually scrolling down the game list when i saw this second star wars title....i did a double take...let it sink in....and then smiled from ear to ear.  i love starwars :)  i lost hope a year after the nge went through and i thoughtthe star wars mmo days were done....so i have to say just how excited i am :)  i would love to hear from other swg vets who are as excited as i am :)  this is very very good news....and i've never signed up for a beta before but if i can get into this one im there :) 

with the way soe did galaxies...it's hard for me to envision a fix on that game that would safice...and i alwaysthought they needed to try it again from scratch.....so here we go!!!!!!!

It took me a year of being really angry before I realized I didn't want pre-cu back. I wanted a NEW SW MMO. I’ve said it many times over the years. Rollback was not going to be anything SOE would do. I gave up on SWG, because even if they did rollback, unless they used a time machine it wouldn't bring my old friends back who left because of broken promises like the launch of JTL, the change to the CU, the NGE, and the launch of WoW. Most of the people I knew who left for WoW never came back for some reason even though they were fans of Star Wars, and at one time liked SWG. Well, I went back thru the TOR forums, my guild forums, and some other SWG sites and it looks like they are all expecting to try TOR.

There is much soloable heresy being spoken here and many linear and theme park infidels trying to convert us to their evil ways. I say nay brothers! Take up the saber of Koster and strike down their twisted evil!

We shall all be there, Knights of the old pre-cu alongside the knaves of the NGE and the dogsbodies of the World of Wankers! We must live together and to do that I propose the we bring back roleplaying to MMOs. If the game provides an enviroment that encourages roleplay we may live side by side and have fun.

If not then we the Knights of the old Pre-CU must begin conversion by the saber, until all infidels are brought under the yoke!

                   DEUS VULT!

Bioware has that " Midas Touch ", anything they touch turns to gold. For those who actually have played Bioware games know this and for the ones who don't will soon find this out  :)

Originally posted by miagisan

Originally posted by theJexster

I keep seeing people say we know nothing about the game yet. Now I could be wrong, and if I am an am sorry, but I thought I remember reading a few things about it. I am too lazy to check but I'm sure some more dedicated Wars fan will and please do prove these false is they are. This is what I thought I remember reading.

The whole game is soloable. The game will have solo aspects, but there will be group play and group missions to advance storylines, so no the whole game is not soloable.

You have a npc helper and don't need to group. You companion toons will be there to add to your story, and will leave you if they feel you aren't meeting their expectations or their morales/ideals. So they seem more as an addition to a story rather than a "group" replacement.

It puts us into the role of the action hero with the story unfolding around us. You also decide where you story is going to lead to, and the factors decided upon by you.....you wanna be the sith lord who tries to take down the sith from within, playing a good guy in the process fior the republic, you can, want to be a republic officer out for the greater good, or secretly working from within, you could. All your actions will dictate how your story unfolds, and you can't undo it. Devs have stated no 2 stories or missions will ever be alike.

I thought I remember reading this stuff on the site. If this is what they said then this is sounding like NGE like. Given I think Bio would make a NGE type SW game that was of WOW quality. The questions is do we want another wow type game or something more.

just some clarifications from dev interviews.

Good clarifications Miagi.  That's been my impression as well.  Also, we had npc companions in SWG pre-cu in the form of pets and faction rewards (rebel soldier etc.).  It didn't replace grouping, and added a fun dimension to the game.

I think the whole story concept, with variable outcomes, is going to be revolutionary for this genre in a very positive way.  These guys are not thinking about making a fast buck at the expense of gaming addicts.  They're creating something worth experiencing; at least this seems to be the intent at this point.  Here's hoping some get rich quick minded business exec doesn't torpedo this thing at the eleventh hour.  In my experience, Bioware won't allow it.  In the past, they've told publishers to find another mule if that's their plan. I hope they stay the course.  IF LEC does not interfere with Bioware's vision, this will be amazing. 

In the hands of anyother company I'd be annoyed we weren't getting another shot at an improved pre-cu (I still am a bit). However Bioware are the best RPG maker out there, now they're crossing over to multi-player from single player and I expect them to use the same excellence with this that they have for everyother game.

I just want to know if I can explore the insides of a player Jedi/Sith with my Mandalorian carbine!

Originally posted by dhayes68

The game is going to be nothing like SWG pre-nge. It won't be sandbox. It'll be more like WoW with jedi.  Not saying it won't be good. Just saying if you're an SWG pre-nge vet/fan, this game isn't going to give you what you miss.

Exactly. SWTOR is going to be a huge disappointment. Shame on you Bioware for making a WoW version of Star Wars.

     In any event the next year promises some exiting debate&development.

                    Bioware:  Player housing was never a part of the deal !!!

   Player Community:   We are altering the deal, pray we don't alter it any further...

Originally posted by SaintViktor

Bioware has that " Midas Touch ", anything they touch turns to gold. For those who actually have played Bioware games know this and for the ones who don't will soon find this out  :)

Except the Jade Empire of couse which turned out to be just plain crap.

Originally posted by tkreep

This game isnt being made with swg vets in mind.

True, but there are a lot of former SWG devs on the Bioware project. Something to rattle your brain box a bit, there. Enjoy!