Originally posted by javac

there are 3 speeds: walk speed (for silent movement), normal speed, and sprint speed. sprint speed is quite fast but consumes stamina, which you also need for attacks. most of the time you run around on sprint speed, just like other MMOs, while managing your stam levels. eating food or pots keep stam regen high for near permanent sprinting.

Yes, I remember reading something about that in some long lost Tasos' interview lost in time... but I digress, was there ever a mention of that sprint skill is base-line skill that you can't level, or will it be a skill that the player can level up like any other skill in the game.  It would be interesting to see players making speed-based builds instead of the classic builds you see in most MMO's like the "Tank build" "Nuker Build" etc...

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by egotrip

You'd be running at that speed too if you were on meth

 

This comment makes no sense at all.  The OP complains about slow running and you compare it to running while under the influence of amphetamines?  O.o   You do realize that meth is speed, right?  If those characters were on "meth" they'd move their asses, not drag along at a snail's pace, lumbering across the screen.

I don't know....maybe you were being sarcastic? 

too serious much?

Originally posted by DrSpanky

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by egotrip

You'd be running at that speed too if you were on meth

 

This comment makes no sense at all.  The OP complains about slow running and you compare it to running while under the influence of amphetamines?  O.o   You do realize that meth is speed, right?  If those characters were on "meth" they'd move their asses, not drag along at a snail's pace, lumbering across the screen.

I don't know....maybe you were being sarcastic? 

too serious much?

flshing for flames much?
 

If you look when they are in first person and running by an object they aren't really running that slow.  They move at the pace that you would move if you were jogging by a building.  The animations make it look slower, and with how huge the world is, and everything in it you get a feeling of moving slower than other games.  They are already looking at the running/sprint setup though and aren't happy with it either.

Originally posted by ProfRed

If you look when they are in first person and running by an object they aren't really running that slow.  They move at the pace that you would move if you were jogging by a building.  The animations make it look slower, and with how huge the world is, and everything in it you get a feeling of moving slower than other games.  They are already looking at the running/sprint setup though and aren't happy with it either.

Well if they do make sprint a skill you can level, make it such that it's not un-realistic like making your player run like the Flash.  I say probably along the lines as you level it, you can acheive a "top" speed (or speed cap) and then beyond that, if you continue leveling it, it should require less stamina so that you can outrun those who did'nt bother to go a "speed build" route per say.  Just a thought.

Originally posted by spankybus

It's called crappy animation for starters. It's aweful floaty looking, which makes it feel like they're running in slow motion. Poor timing and no 'chaos'. It is painful to watch. Before I get mauled by the fanboys, I am a CG artist, and I do animate. THis is not a hater's analasys, its a professional one.

 

I seriously hope the gameplay rocks, cuz that's the only real thing left for me to hope for in this game. I loved UO when it first launched, so I am hopeful. But frankly, I don't know if I can watch this garbage for hours at a time and realize someone got paid to animate my toon.

i totaly agree, sadly.

Also first person view runing, without a weapon on the screen to compare your speed to the environment ..but this is a factor in other games too...

spankybus can u tell me about the animations...its is something that can be easely changed at any given time, like simply replace old animaion with a new one, or they are on very core level ov the game?   in aoc the animations were tied to the damge, not sure if this changed much..

i guess the game sounds are no problem to be changed as long as they have the same lenght, but i am not sure for animations.. thnx

Originally posted by DrSpanky

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by egotrip

You'd be running at that speed too if you were on meth

 

This comment makes no sense at all.  The OP complains about slow running and you compare it to running while under the influence of amphetamines?  O.o   You do realize that meth is speed, right?  If those characters were on "meth" they'd move their asses, not drag along at a snail's pace, lumbering across the screen.

I don't know....maybe you were being sarcastic? 

too serious much?

Nope, I'm not too serious at all.  I, like most people that frequent the DF threads, are just sick of idiotic posts that have nothing to do with DF or anything else remotely related to DF.  It's a waste of time to read something that stupid.

But then again....I'm so serious that I don't like LOLcats at all, and I don't even ever quote Robin Williams.   I also HATE all those stupid emoticons everyone uses all the time.  I won't use them...because I R SRS. Gaming is, afterall.....srs biznus. 

Originally posted by ProfRed

If you look when they are in first person and running by an object they aren't really running that slow.  They move at the pace that you would move if you were jogging by a building.  The animations make it look slower, and with how huge the world is, and everything in it you get a feeling of moving slower than other games.  They are already looking at the running/sprint setup though and aren't happy with it either.

Thats great they are "looking at it" but...

...25 days until launch is NOT the time to be "looking" at stuff like this.

What happened to all those "professional testers"? 

What happened to the "select few" Beta testers testing it in September?

What happened to all the years of internal Beta testing?

What happened to all the AI bot Beta testing?

Hmm... you mean all those "testers" above are not a substitute for just dumping in thousands upon thousands of average normal gamers and let them play and see what works and what doesn't?

Huh... who would have guessed that? 

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by DrSpanky

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by egotrip

You'd be running at that speed too if you were on meth

 

This comment makes no sense at all.  The OP complains about slow running and you compare it to running while under the influence of amphetamines?  O.o   You do realize that meth is speed, right?  If those characters were on "meth" they'd move their asses, not drag along at a snail's pace, lumbering across the screen.

I don't know....maybe you were being sarcastic? 

too serious much?

 

Nope, I'm not too serious at all.  I, like most people that frequent the DF threads, are just sick of idiotic posts that have nothing to do with DF or anything else remotely related to DF.  It's a waste of time to read something that stupid.

But then again....I'm so serious that I don't like LOLcats at all, and I don't even ever quote Robin Williams.   I also HATE all those stupid emoticons everyone uses all the time.  I won't use them...because I R SRS. Gaming is, afterall.....srs biznus. 

you have some nerve...
 

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2611669/The-Noob-part-8.html#2611669

under post# 132

Originally posted by girlgeek

hehehe....I didn't think it was directed at me or anything. I just wondered if I missed some cool flame post or something! LOL I had to go back to reread to be sure I didn't miss any "gamer drama!" ROFL

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by DrSpanky

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by egotrip

You'd be running at that speed too if you were on meth

 

This comment makes no sense at all.  The OP complains about slow running and you compare it to running while under the influence of amphetamines?  O.o   You do realize that meth is speed, right?  If those characters were on "meth" they'd move their asses, not drag along at a snail's pace, lumbering across the screen.

I don't know....maybe you were being sarcastic? 

too serious much?

 

Nope, I'm not too serious at all.  I, like most people that frequent the DF threads, are just sick of idiotic posts that have nothing to do with DF or anything else remotely related to DF.  It's a waste of time to read something that stupid.

But then again....I'm so serious that I don't like LOLcats at all, and I don't even ever quote Robin Williams.   I also HATE all those stupid emoticons everyone uses all the time.  I won't use them...because I R SRS. Gaming is, afterall.....srs biznus. 

Jeez all this just because i mixed up "meth" with "mesc"........

You can't see me but i'm blushing IRL..........

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by DrSpanky

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by egotrip

You'd be running at that speed too if you were on meth

 

This comment makes no sense at all.  The OP complains about slow running and you compare it to running while under the influence of amphetamines?  O.o   You do realize that meth is speed, right?  If those characters were on "meth" they'd move their asses, not drag along at a snail's pace, lumbering across the screen.

I don't know....maybe you were being sarcastic? 

too serious much?

 

Nope, I'm not too serious at all.  I, like most people that frequent the DF threads, are just sick of idiotic posts that have nothing to do with DF or anything else remotely related to DF.  It's a waste of time to read something that stupid.

But then again....I'm so serious that I don't like LOLcats at all, and I don't even ever quote Robin Williams.   I also HATE all those stupid emoticons everyone uses all the time.  I won't use them...because I R SRS. Gaming is, afterall.....srs biznus. 

Just thought it was obvious the poster was f'ing around. and no...i'm not flshing for flames...what ever that means.

Originally posted by egotrip

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by DrSpanky

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by egotrip

You'd be running at that speed too if you were on meth

 

This comment makes no sense at all.  The OP complains about slow running and you compare it to running while under the influence of amphetamines?  O.o   You do realize that meth is speed, right?  If those characters were on "meth" they'd move their asses, not drag along at a snail's pace, lumbering across the screen.

I don't know....maybe you were being sarcastic? 

too serious much?

 

Nope, I'm not too serious at all.  I, like most people that frequent the DF threads, are just sick of idiotic posts that have nothing to do with DF or anything else remotely related to DF.  It's a waste of time to read something that stupid.

But then again....I'm so serious that I don't like LOLcats at all, and I don't even ever quote Robin Williams.   I also HATE all those stupid emoticons everyone uses all the time.  I won't use them...because I R SRS. Gaming is, afterall.....srs biznus. 

Jeez all this just because i mixed up "meth" with "mesc"........

You can't see me but i'm blushing IRL..........

Yup...we have to be very very very careful in here not to make ANY mistakes, and never to question or criticize anything too profusely.  This is the walking on eggshells forum...and don't you forget it!!  LOL ;)

@hidden1

I have some nerve?  ROFL....you have NO idea.  No....really you don't. 

My post, the one you quoted, was a response to someone speaking/replying TO me.  It wasn't just a strange "out of the blue" comment about drugs.  But nonetheless.....I found it comical that someone would think meth would make you run slow.  

Besides....I'm here to defend the honor of DF's "slow running."  I'm on YOUR side.  So....lump it, Buddy!  lol

Hey...the guys in the videos are wearing PLATE ARMOR.  YOU  try running in that shit.  I'm just gonna BET you won't be flying at breakneck speed, people.

I'm not totally SOLD on DF, but....I'm not going to be a "naysayer" either.  It seems that people will pick on ANY TEENY TINY little thing to be dissin' on this game.  I don't get it.  I'm not a cheerleader for DF, to be sure.  But I'm not going to join the crusade to dis every single thing about a game we haven't seen firsthand either.  That is JUST as silly as being a blind faith cheerleader.

Server Hampster has not been upgraded yet.

They are addressing run speed, here is an excerpt from Claus on the beta boards:

Run Speed
Agon is such a huge world, that moving around may seem a lot slower than it really is. You only get a feel for the real speed if you are inside buildings or running next to small houses. If the movement speed becomes too fast, it becomes a compounding problem; ping times become increasingly important to the outcome of a fight, aiming spells, bows, cannons becomes harder, prediction becomes less reliable etc. We are considering making run a skill that raises by use, which will increase your overall speed slightly, and we are running some internal tests to calculate the impact of it.

Sprint
There has been a lot of feedback about sprinting. We are not entirely happy with how it works on the live servers, and are considering several options. One of the options we are evaluating was suggested by Osium on these boards, and involves two separate forms of stamina - one for sprinting and one for other tasks. If we do change how sprinting works however, it is likely to be sometime after release

Originally posted by DeadDingo

 

Server Hampster has not been upgraded yet.

Heheh, that's cute.

Originally posted by DeadDingo

 

 

I gotta get me one of those . 

Originally posted by DeadDingo

 

Server Hampster has not been upgraded yet.

Take that shit down a-hole! Have to say still it is funny!
 

Originally posted by Letsinod

They are addressing run speed, here is an excerpt from Claus on the beta boards:

 

Run Speed
Agon is such a huge world, that moving around may seem a lot slower than it really is. You only get a feel for the real speed if you are inside buildings or running next to small houses. If the movement speed becomes too fast, it becomes a compounding problem; ping times become increasingly important to the outcome of a fight, aiming spells, bows, cannons becomes harder, prediction becomes less reliable etc. We are considering making run a skill that raises by use, which will increase your overall speed slightly, and we are running some internal tests to calculate the impact of it.

Sprint
There has been a lot of feedback about sprinting. We are not entirely happy with how it works on the live servers, and are considering several options. One of the options we are evaluating was suggested by Osium on these boards, and involves two separate forms of stamina - one for sprinting and one for other tasks. If we do change how sprinting works however, it is likely to be sometime after release

So he is says that it just feels slow because the world is so big.  HAHA good one.

I thought he was going to say " the speed is slow because we are in debug mode".  hehe I guess both works.

Originally posted by Letsinod

They are addressing run speed, here is an excerpt from Claus on the beta boards:

 

Run Speed
Agon is such a huge world, that moving around may seem a lot slower than it really is. You only get a feel for the real speed if you are inside buildings or running next to small houses. If the movement speed becomes too fast, it becomes a compounding problem; ping times become increasingly important to the outcome of a fight, aiming spells, bows, cannons becomes harder, prediction becomes less reliable etc. We are considering making run a skill that raises by use, which will increase your overall speed slightly, and we are running some internal tests to calculate the impact of it.

Sprint
There has been a lot of feedback about sprinting. We are not entirely happy with how it works on the live servers, and are considering several options. One of the options we are evaluating was suggested by Osium on these boards, and involves two separate forms of stamina - one for sprinting and one for other tasks. If we do change how sprinting works however, it is likely to be sometime after release

Hmm...
 

Thats great they are "looking at it" but...

...25 days until launch is NOT the time to be "looking" at stuff like this.

What happened to all those "professional testers"?

What happened to the "select few" Beta testers testing it in September?

What happened to all the years of internal Beta testing?

What happened to all the AI bot Beta testing?

Hmm... you mean all those "testers" above are not a substitute for just dumping in thousands upon thousands of average normal gamers and let them play and see what works and what doesn't?

Huh... who would have guessed that?  

I don't recall anyone every saying that they needed more "REAL" testers. 

Does anyone else recall seeing anyone asking about that?
 

I know the perfect answer for this question.

Brace yourself!

So you guys have stuff to nag about! =D too bad people haven't tried huge games before. Heck, i felt it moving slowly when i played Eq and Vanguard. But i guess that's just me.