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1/27/09 8:38:15 PM#21
Originally posted by CopWatch
No. No it does not make sense. Because generally, things that have "low impact on determining battles" in a PvP game would have low value. So where are the R-tards that are paying premo prices for crap gear? Even DF won't be so blessed.
I don't see a need for paying premium pricing on any gear. All gear is craftable and most likely everyone will have a few sets in the bank in case they get looted. If you've ever played UO you may be familiar with the concept of full loot. |
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1/27/09 8:48:59 PM#22
Originally posted by aryaba
No. No it does not make sense. Because generally, things that have "low impact on determining battles" in a PvP game would have low value. So where are the R-tards that are paying premo prices for crap gear? Even DF won't be so blessed.
I don't see a need for paying premium pricing on any gear. All gear is craftable and most likely everyone will have a few sets in the bank in case they get looted. If you've ever played UO you may be familiar with the concept of full loot.
When was the last time you played UO with full loot? A lot of time between then and now can make us remember things as better than they were. That said. I'm not against full loot. I think EvE is great (yes its different, I know).
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1/27/09 8:55:35 PM#23
Originally posted by CopWatch I don't see a need for paying premium pricing on any gear. All gear is craftable and most likely everyone will have a few sets in the bank in case they get looted. If you've ever played UO you may be familiar with the concept of full loot.
When was the last time you played UO with full loot? A lot of time between then and now can make us remember things as better than they were. That said. I'm not against full loot. I think EvE is great (yes its different, I know).
The last time I played UO was a couple of years ago. Re-upped for a few months, had a fine time, but it was way behind the times, so I let the subscription lapse. That said, I think you may be stuck thinking about loot like you would with just about any other MMORPG on the market today, where items take forever to get and are are essential to your characters performance. In UO (and presumably Darkfall Online) gear is cheap, plentiful and barely effects your skills. Hell in UO, I used to walk around in the bone armor, because pieces of it dropped from skeletons and it was nearly as good as platemail. What games are you familiar with? Which ones have you played? Seriously, if you are playing WOW, etc. Your mindset about loot is the opposite of what this game purports to be. |
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1/27/09 8:59:25 PM#24
If the gear is anything like what UO used to be pre UO:R, it'll be fine. Sure killing the average person and looting them isn't going to very valuable, but it will be worthwhile. Even the most basic items have value, and if they can be sold, you make a profit from your kill. In UO it would usually mean you made more than you spent (in reags, potions, etc). Keep in mind that occasionally you'll run into the idiot players that don't take precautions with their truly valuable stuff as well. Which will make looting them very profitable, and yes it'll suck for the player being looted; but they should have been smarter. In my PK days in UO even looting nothing but the average player, I would make about 1/2 the amount a small house would cost in one gaming session. For the most part I wouldn't kill the same player more than once, unless they were asking for it. Had I hunted monsters etc instead of PKing I could have easily trippled the amount I made. Why did I choose to PK and full loot instead if it wasn't as profitable? Because I enjoyed fighting players instead of ai, and I could still make a profit even if it wasn't that great. The average person I looted could replace the value of their gear lost in a matter of 1/2 hour to an hour even if they were completely new to the game (usually less). So even looting stuff that is "not valuable" you can make a profit. |
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1/27/09 9:01:17 PM#25
Originally posted by aryaba I don't see a need for paying premium pricing on any gear. All gear is craftable and most likely everyone will have a few sets in the bank in case they get looted. If you've ever played UO you may be familiar with the concept of full loot.
When was the last time you played UO with full loot? A lot of time between then and now can make us remember things as better than they were. That said. I'm not against full loot. I think EvE is great (yes its different, I know).
The last time I played UO was a couple of years ago. Re-upped for a few months, had a fine time, but it was way behind the times, so I let the subscription lapse. That said, I think you may be stuck thinking about loot like you would with just about any other MMORPG on the market today, where items take forever to get and are are essential to your characters performance. In UO (and presumably Darkfall Online) gear is cheap, plentiful and barely effects your skills. Hell in UO, I used to walk around in the bone armor, because pieces of it dropped from skeletons and it was nearly as good as platemail.
I think the point people are trying to make is... if gear is meaningless to lose, who cares if you get to loot it from someone when they die? |
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1/27/09 9:07:55 PM#26
This is a darkfall forum section on a non-Darkfall site. So don't tell people what they should/shouldn't, can/can't post unless it breaks this sites' rules ( hmmm, don't see "full loot discussion" listed in the RoC ).
As far as the analogy of UO, if full loot and PKing was that popular, Trammel wouldn't exist. |
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1/27/09 9:11:09 PM#27
Originally posted by Zorvan
According to a few of the fans here Trammel happened due to player housing and not because the majority of the populace at the time was sick of gankers and rofltards. All the posts on the forums asking for non-pvp server rulesets back in the day never happened.... There are 3 types of people in the world.
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1/27/09 9:25:17 PM#28
Originally posted by fyerwall
According to a few of the fans here Trammel happened due to player housing and not because the majority of the populace at the time was sick of gankers and rofltards. All the posts on the forums asking for non-pvp server rulesets back in the day never happened....
As for Trammel happening, part of it was due to player housing. For every post on the old UO forums about non-pvp rulesets there was one with somebody crying that there wasn't anymore land to build houses. The devs listened to both groups and thus Trammel. Trammel however does not prove that full loot and open PvP doesn't work. If it did, UO would have grown more with that expansion than they had with their previous one; which it didn't. |
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1/27/09 9:29:51 PM#29
Originally posted by Salvatoris
When was the last time you played UO with full loot? A lot of time between then and now can make us remember things as better than they were. That said. I'm not against full loot. I think EvE is great (yes its different, I know).
The last time I played UO was a couple of years ago. Re-upped for a few months, had a fine time, but it was way behind the times, so I let the subscription lapse. That said, I think you may be stuck thinking about loot like you would with just about any other MMORPG on the market today, where items take forever to get and are are essential to your characters performance. In UO (and presumably Darkfall Online) gear is cheap, plentiful and barely effects your skills. Hell in UO, I used to walk around in the bone armor, because pieces of it dropped from skeletons and it was nearly as good as platemail.
I think the point people are trying to make is... if gear is meaningless to lose, who cares if you get to loot it from someone when they die?
Well, you can make decent money doing it. |
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1/27/09 9:31:05 PM#30
Originally posted by Gnomad
Who's saying loot is worthless besides you? Obviously the OP is trying to say loot isn't critical to the survival of your character, but is definitely worth something.
Read the FAQ's and the forums. It is stated many times that "loot doesn't matter" hell the fawnbois always state that on here. So if loot doesn't matter then it is worthless and why the hell would you want to loot it? It really boggles the mind how stupid and blind the obsessed fawnbois are. With the exception to lineage2 I mostly played PVE games, but i am interested(not a fanboi) in this game because of what it's offering. yet I understand what the OP is saying. It seems YOU DONT GET IT! Let me try to explain: The gear you wear does not define the success of your character. It may be worth something because of the way it looks or provides a cosmetic difference that is unique, or maybe your just attached to it because you've been wearing it for so long, or mostly because of the hassle of having to go re-equip yourself. At any rate, if you get looted your character won't be gimped because your breastplate had some outrageous uber magical properties because the strength of your character is built on his skill and your own twitch prowess. However if you forgot to take a trip to the bank lately and you dropped some mats or gold or potions that were valuable now you have lost something of value and the guy who scored the PK just hit a jackpot. Sounds exciting and fun to me (it they deliver),. But I guess in your mind everyone who isn't a troll like yourself must be a Fanboi. |
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Originally posted by rvjones10
Read the FAQ's and the forums. It is stated many times that "loot doesn't matter" hell the fawnbois always state that on here. So if loot doesn't matter then it is worthless and why the hell would you want to loot it? It really boggles the mind how stupid and blind the obsessed fawnbois are. With the exception to lineage2 I mostly played PVE games, but i am interested(not a fanboi) in this game because of what it's offering. yet I understand what the OP is saying. It seems YOU DONT GET IT! Let me try to explain: The gear you wear does not define the success of your character. It may be worth something because of the way it looks or provides a cosmetic difference that is unique, or maybe your just attached to it because you've been wearing it for so long, or mostly because of the hassle of having to go re-equip yourself. At any rate, if you get looted your character won't be gimped because your breastplate had some outrageous uber magical properties because the strength of your character is built on his skill and your own twitch prowess. However if you forgot to take a trip to the bank lately and you dropped some mats or gold or potions that were valuable now you have lost something of value and the guy who scored the PK just hit a jackpot. Sounds exciting and fun to me (it they deliver),. But I guess in your mind everyone who isn't a troll like yourself must be a Fanboi.
^^ This is what im saying. Thank you. -Gosh you're cute. Wanna buy a monkey? |
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1/27/09 10:02:02 PM#32
"Dont bother explaining DF to these carebears....look at these guys Wow and Everquest nuthuggers.
There are about 350k people on the DF forums that understand what DF is and want to play it, more will show up at launch...its a niche game obviously but plenty want to play it
If you people dont understand the features and mechanics of the game, and just spout of illogical bs then there is no room for you in this game
The WOW forum is on bottom left of the screen"
Multiplied by 10,000....awesome...
EDIT: Sweet, just hit post number 666. Time for some horns. That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming! |
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tombear81
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1/28/09 2:56:26 PM#33
Full loot isn not dumb but it requirss tight gameplay, intelligence and tactics to play. Something I don't think DF is about to deliver. Oh noes ! |
