Dark and Light atleast launched and showed what it had without 40 delays and all this total BS about having their website hacked blah blah blah, when anyone who has any experience with the internet KNOWS FULL WELL that this is a crock of steaming BS excuse

It's blatantly obvious that they shut down their own server for their forums and are now decieving the public about the reasons that their forums are down.. imagine that.  Not the great Tasos ummm being "deceptive" again?  Please tell me no, oh great god of your unbelievably shallow sheep fanboys.

Excuse after excuse...

Delay after Delay...

Lie after Lie...

And STILL, we have fans defending this game with every ounce of energy that they have.

Are people really this DESPERATE for something or someone (Tasos) to believe in???

Try reading and believing in Spider-Man oh beloved Darkfall fans.  He is atleast consistant and Marvel doesn't sit around lying constantly trying to make people believe that he is for real as Tasos does with the fiction and BS that is "Darkfall Online".

lets get some links of their"lie after lie" and their "excuse after excuse"

and for the delays... they have had 1 delay from their announced set date that they initially planned

Stick a fork in it - Darkfall is done.

Done in by their own producer lies and misleading....

If the game is GOOD - is it not time to present it to the public ? 1 month before release ?

What in earth can be a reason for hiding this game from public eyes ?

Tell me ?

Originally posted by usatool

lets get some links of their"lie after lie" and their "excuse after excuse"

and for the delays... they have had 1 delay from their announced set date that they initially planned

Perfect proof backing up my OP... fanboy here appropriately named "usaTOOL" foaming at the mouth in anger of anyone that actually states the sad facts or calls out this game or the development company behind it.

Nothing further your honor.

Originally posted by ziembee

Originally posted by usatool

lets get some links of their"lie after lie" and their "excuse after excuse"

and for the delays... they have had 1 delay from their announced set date that they initially planned

 

Perfect proof backing up my OP... fanboy here appropriately named "usaTOOL" foaming at the mouth in anger of anyone that actually states the sad facts or calls out this game or the development company behind it.

Nothing further your honor.

 

I didn't see him "foam" at all. He simply asked you to back up your statements with evidence.

A fair request I think. If you've been 'shocked' enough by Adventurines lies and misleading statements, surely you should lets us see the actual statements?

The defence rests. 
 

Originally posted by siftified

Originally posted by ziembee

Originally posted by usatool

lets get some links of their"lie after lie" and their "excuse after excuse"

and for the delays... they have had 1 delay from their announced set date that they initially planned

 

Perfect proof backing up my OP... fanboy here appropriately named "usaTOOL" foaming at the mouth in anger of anyone that actually states the sad facts or calls out this game or the development company behind it.

Nothing further your honor.

 

I didn't see him "foam" at all. He simply asked you to back up your statements with evidence.

A fair request I think. If you've been 'shocked' enough by Adventurines lies and misleading statements, surely you should lets us see the actual statements?

The defence rests. 
 

Nope.  I am NOT going to waste my time providing you with the tons of links that could be provided.  It's already been done MANY times here on these forums.  And neither you nor Mr Tool will actually read them anyhow, you'll just come up with some lame one liner or call me a troll or some BS.

Instead, I just invite you to watch the train wreck that is coming with this game.  Continue to ride this train and then wonder why you've been burned in the end, but certainly don't come back crying saying that nobody warned you.

So instead you are going to waste your time by just spewing crap with no evidence to back up your claim but instead just say "Oooooh yes there is plenty of evidence but i'm not going to show you!"

If you want to be taken seriously (which you clearly don't since you are a TROLL) then you would provide some evidence.

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Originally posted by siftified
I didn't see him "foam" at all. He simply asked you to back up your statements with evidence.
A fair request I think. If you've been 'shocked' enough by Adventurines lies and misleading statements, surely you should lets us see the actual statements?
The defence rests. 
 

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2007 beta

http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/editorials/3222-Surly-s-Column-State-of-the-Game-Darkfall-Razorwax-and-Aventurin

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2005 Tasos says: Tasos Flambouras: It's getting close to the point where people will get the chance to playtest the game. If they aren't looking at Darkfall now, they'll probably wish they had been. :)

http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/671/671666p3.html

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Darkfall was supposedly entering close beta testing Sept 2003.
Link broken but you can see it post #8 here. Post #8.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/78344

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There's just a few of the LIES (besides the lies last summer of a "definite release by end of 2008" from Mr Tasos, a Jan 22 release date, and Tasos stating himself on 12/5/08 that "Darkfall is ready for release right NOW". It's more then obvious that Darkfall was not totally ready for release on 12/05/08 if it got delayed and couldn't release on 1/22/09.

- Zaxx

Originally posted by ziembee

Originally posted by siftified

Originally posted by ziembee

Originally posted by usatool

lets get some links of their"lie after lie" and their "excuse after excuse"

and for the delays... they have had 1 delay from their announced set date that they initially planned

 

Perfect proof backing up my OP... fanboy here appropriately named "usaTOOL" foaming at the mouth in anger of anyone that actually states the sad facts or calls out this game or the development company behind it.

Nothing further your honor.

 

I didn't see him "foam" at all. He simply asked you to back up your statements with evidence.

A fair request I think. If you've been 'shocked' enough by Adventurines lies and misleading statements, surely you should lets us see the actual statements?

The defence rests. 
 

Nope.  I am NOT going to waste my time providing you with the tons of links that could be provided.  It's already been done MANY times here on these forums.  And neither you nor Mr Tool will actually read them anyhow, you'll just come up with some lame one liner or call me a troll or some BS.

Instead, I just invite you to watch the train wreck that is coming with this game.  Continue to ride this train and then wonder why you've been burned in the end, but certainly don't come back crying saying that nobody warned you.

Ok then that's what I was looking for. Now we can proceed.
 

If you can't be bothered backing up your statements, admit that it's all been posted and discussed before and don't have an interest in playing the game; then why are you so concerned with making these threads? Or replying with "lolz" and "lmfao" on every other thread where some people, at least, are trying to critique and discuss certain elements of the project.

Seriously, if you can't be bothered doing something properly. Don't bother doing it at all.

i want you to show me some proof of a game that has been in development that has come through with everything they have said... you cant

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Originally posted by siftified

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Originally posted by ziembee

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Originally posted by siftified

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Originally posted by ziembee

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Originally posted by usatool

lets get some links of their"lie after lie" and their "excuse after excuse"
and for the delays... they have had 1 delay from their announced set date that they initially planned

---

 
Perfect proof backing up my OP... fanboy here appropriately named "usaTOOL" foaming at the mouth in anger of anyone that actually states the sad facts or calls out this game or the development company behind it.
Nothing further your honor.
 

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I didn't see him "foam" at all. He simply asked you to back up your statements with evidence.
A fair request I think. If you've been 'shocked' enough by Adventurines lies and misleading statements, surely you should lets us see the actual statements?
The defence rests. 
 

---

Nope.  I am NOT going to waste my time providing you with the tons of links that could be provided.  It's already been done MANY times here on these forums.  And neither you nor Mr Tool will actually read them anyhow, you'll just come up with some lame one liner or call me a troll or some BS.
Instead, I just invite you to watch the train wreck that is coming with this game.  Continue to ride this train and then wonder why you've been burned in the end, but certainly don't come back crying saying that nobody warned you.

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Ok then that's what I was looking for. Now we can proceed.
 
If you can't be bothered backing up your statements, admit that it's all been posted and discussed before and don't have an interest in playing the game; then why are you so concerned with making these threads? Or replying with "lolz" and "lmfao" on every other thread where some people, at least, are trying to critique and discuss certain elements of the project.
Seriously, if you can't be bothered doing something properly. Don't bother doing it at all.

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I think I see where the OP is coming from. As he said, you wouldn't even read links of proof of known lies as I provided you with several, and no where near all of the deceit spewed out by Mr Tasos. It does seem that you really don't care about that, but just care about blindly attacking anyone who attacks the credibility of said game.

- Zaxx

Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

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Originally posted by siftified
I didn't see him "foam" at all. He simply asked you to back up your statements with evidence.
A fair request I think. If you've been 'shocked' enough by Adventurines lies and misleading statements, surely you should lets us see the actual statements?
The defence rests. 
 

---

 

2007 beta

http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/editorials/3222-Surly-s-Column-State-of-the-Game-Darkfall-Razorwax-and-Aventurin

----

2005 Tasos says: Tasos Flambouras: It's getting close to the point where people will get the chance to playtest the game. If they aren't looking at Darkfall now, they'll probably wish they had been. :)

http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/671/671666p3.html

------

Darkfall was supposedly entering close beta testing Sept 2003.
Link broken but you can see it post #8 here. Post #8.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/78344

-------------

There's just a few of the LIES (besides the lies last summer of a "definite release by end of 2008" from Mr Tasos, a Jan 22 release date, and Tasos stating himself on 12/5/08 that "Darkfall is ready for release right NOW". It's more then obvious that Darkfall was not totally ready for release on 12/05/08 if it got delayed and couldn't release on 1/22/09.

- Zaxx
 

See now there's a post that we do indeed have to respect. We might not agree with everything in it, or have different opinions on whether delays or claims or beta etc should be considered "lies" (remember now, dates get pushed back in the gaming industry all the time).
 

But at least Zaxx is advocating that we be careful of Aventurine based on evidence which he has supplied. 

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Stick a fork in it - Darkfall is done.

Done in by their own producer lies and misleading....

If the game is GOOD - is it not time to present it to the public ? 1 month before release ?

What in earth can be a reason for hiding this game from public eyes ?

Tell me ?

This is what I really REALLY want to know the answer to.

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Originally posted by usatool
i want you to show me some proof of a game that has been in development that has come through with everything they have said... you cant

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And here is the "one-liner" the OP said would happen IF he did spend the time to provide such proof. Proof not even looked at, read, or considered. Just a one liner attacking ALL games in blind defense, as if some how a game like WoW or Warhammer Online that have actually released and are "working" are in the same exact shoes as Darkfall is now.

- Zaxx

yeah just because things are said that are true at the time but dont end up working out doesnt mean they are out right lying about it

they have never made up shit in ways to decieve people as you are saying

Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

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Originally posted by siftified

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Originally posted by ziembee

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Originally posted by siftified

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Originally posted by ziembee

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Originally posted by usatool

 

lets get some links of their"lie after lie" and their "excuse after excuse"
and for the delays... they have had 1 delay from their announced set date that they initially planned

---

 
Perfect proof backing up my OP... fanboy here appropriately named "usaTOOL" foaming at the mouth in anger of anyone that actually states the sad facts or calls out this game or the development company behind it.
Nothing further your honor.
 

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I didn't see him "foam" at all. He simply asked you to back up your statements with evidence.
A fair request I think. If you've been 'shocked' enough by Adventurines lies and misleading statements, surely you should lets us see the actual statements?
The defence rests. 
 

---

Nope.  I am NOT going to waste my time providing you with the tons of links that could be provided.  It's already been done MANY times here on these forums.  And neither you nor Mr Tool will actually read them anyhow, you'll just come up with some lame one liner or call me a troll or some BS.
Instead, I just invite you to watch the train wreck that is coming with this game.  Continue to ride this train and then wonder why you've been burned in the end, but certainly don't come back crying saying that nobody warned you.

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Ok then that's what I was looking for. Now we can proceed.
 
If you can't be bothered backing up your statements, admit that it's all been posted and discussed before and don't have an interest in playing the game; then why are you so concerned with making these threads? Or replying with "lolz" and "lmfao" on every other thread where some people, at least, are trying to critique and discuss certain elements of the project.
Seriously, if you can't be bothered doing something properly. Don't bother doing it at all.

---

 

I think I see where the OP is coming from. As he said, you wouldn't even read links of proof of known lies as I provided you with several, and no where near all of the deceit spewed out by Mr Tasos. It does seem that you really don't care about that, but just care about blindly attacking anyone who attacks the credibility of said game.

- Zaxx

I disagree. I'm willing to read anything that anyone supplies. But really, it's been pretty hard to take some of the theories and criticisms seriously, because for every one person with a genuine concern, or some good information, there are 5 idiots that do them no favours by posting absolute unfounded and regurgitated garbage.

Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

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Originally posted by usatool
i want you to show me some proof of a game that has been in development that has come through with everything they have said... you cant

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And here is the "one-liner" the OP said would happen IF he did spend the time to provide such proof. Proof not even looked at, read, or considered. Just a one liner attacking ALL games in blind defense, as if some how a game like WoW or Warhammer Online that have actually released and are "working" are in the same exact shoes as Darkfall is now.

- Zaxx

so your defense for everything we say.... why should i provide proof you wont even look at it?

why should we even defend against your acusasions... you arent even going to back them up...

According to patch notes they're enabling things in beta one by one and the game is coming along, leakers have confirmed it. I don't know if they'll make the 25 feb date but looking at their history i doubt they'll release the game unfinished for the sake of the date.

But i can't understand what you want. Another unifnished game launched prematurely to maximize initial profits and then die after 6 months? So that you don't have to wait to come here and stroke around your e-peen about how you don't like the game and we should give a fuck about your opinion?

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Stick a fork in it - Darkfall is done.

Done in by their own producer lies and misleading....

If the game is GOOD - is it not time to present it to the public ? 1 month before release ?

What in earth can be a reason for hiding this game from public eyes ?

Tell me ?

They don't wat the general public to be exposed to so much awsomeness. 

That would be a great Tasos line.

Originally posted by siftified

Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

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Originally posted by siftified
I didn't see him "foam" at all. He simply asked you to back up your statements with evidence.
A fair request I think. If you've been 'shocked' enough by Adventurines lies and misleading statements, surely you should lets us see the actual statements?
The defence rests. 
 

---

 

2007 beta

http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/editorials/3222-Surly-s-Column-State-of-the-Game-Darkfall-Razorwax-and-Aventurin

----

2005 Tasos says: Tasos Flambouras: It's getting close to the point where people will get the chance to playtest the game. If they aren't looking at Darkfall now, they'll probably wish they had been. :)

http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/671/671666p3.html

------

Darkfall was supposedly entering close beta testing Sept 2003.
Link broken but you can see it post #8 here. Post #8.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/78344

-------------

There's just a few of the LIES (besides the lies last summer of a "definite release by end of 2008" from Mr Tasos, a Jan 22 release date, and Tasos stating himself on 12/5/08 that "Darkfall is ready for release right NOW". It's more then obvious that Darkfall was not totally ready for release on 12/05/08 if it got delayed and couldn't release on 1/22/09.

- Zaxx
 

See now there's a post that we do indeed have to respect. We might not agree with everything in it, or have different opinions on whether delays or claims or beta etc should be considered "lies" (remember now, dates get pushed back in the gaming industry all the time).
 

But at least Zaxx is advocating that we be careful of Aventurine based on evidence which he has supplied. 

Pushed back? These dates are more than simply "pushed back", they have to have been total bare-faced lies.

Because we know for a fact that darkfall has only just entered another phase of testing ---- err i mean "free trial".