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General Discussion  » if DF cant solve simple problems like DOS atacks??????????

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  Mazdryk

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Joined: 8/30/07
Posts: 5

 
1/25/09 3:00:43 AM#1

Really... IF darkfall cant handle a DOS atack how do they expect to handle the multiple hacks made possible using a fps shooter type interface?  How can they handle any problems?  THey claimed their game had the best anti-hack defense. 

  stayontarget

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Joined: 10/04/08
Posts: 5819

Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound

1/25/09 3:03:01 AM#2

To be honest, no site is truely safe from attacks. Cut them some slack in this.

Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...

  macfreak

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Joined: 1/10/09
Posts: 5

1/25/09 3:09:12 AM#3

 

You are aware that their sites are not hosted internally (at least not at the moment) but on an webhost provider....who is also responsible for the security measures and as above poster already said

 

no one is immune from this type of attacks

 

 

  User Deleted
1/25/09 3:12:25 AM#4

Honestly, there will be hacks no matter what.

That's not a slam against DF or AV. That's just the way it goes with software.

Even MMOs that have been live for years still have holes that the more "persistent" will find and try to exploit. And there will always be things that devs miss or don't anticipate.

For example, Square-Enix just banned over 500 accounts and suspended 400+ others in FFXI for a duping exploit some were abusing in some high-end content. That game has been around for over 7 years and is a very stable game overall. But there ya go... there was still a weakness that someone found and took advantage of.

So long as there are those who are more interested in hacking/cheating through a game than playing it, and they have the know-how, there will be hacking.

Of course a more solid client/server will make it more difficult, but it will never be "hack proof".

What it really boils down to and what I think AV would ultimately be judged on is how swiftly and capably they deal with it. And, no matter any cheering or nay-saying from either side, that remains to be seen. The only fair and objective way to look at it is we'll have to see how  AV responds/performs when put to the test. Hopefully none of it can be used to obtain subscribers' account info.

I can't even make heads or tails of the DoS thing.. I know it *happened*... but there's a whole lot of speculation and mixed info as to whether the extended forum downtime has anything to do with it. I'm not even going to wager a guess 'cause I have no clue what's going on out there.

Anyways... my two cents.

  tokenizer

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Joined: 1/21/09
Posts: 108

1/25/09 3:17:33 AM#5
Originally posted by Mazdryk

Really... IF darkfall cant handle a DOS atack how do they expect to handle the multiple hacks made possible using a fps shooter type interface?  How can they handle any problems?  THey claimed their game had the best anti-hack defense. 

 

They are very good at NDA's, rest just dont matter, haha..

  usatool

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Joined: 1/25/09
Posts: 53

DF Beta Tester.

1/25/09 3:19:48 AM#6

you have to be kidding...

 

they have no control over the site being attacked... it happend to their provider and many other sites were down because of this

 

has nothing to do with darkfall

  stayontarget

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1/25/09 3:21:06 AM#7

True, the client is out so expect speed hacks, damage increase hacks, gold duplicating and so on.

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  tokenizer

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Joined: 1/21/09
Posts: 108

1/25/09 3:23:26 AM#8

After all things what hapen until now, you really have time to belive that?? Thats a story for kids with DDOS attacks.. problem is, they are going way to far with that, they NEVER posted official statments on the working site.

  tokenizer

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Joined: 1/21/09
Posts: 108

1/25/09 3:24:47 AM#9
Originally posted by stayontarget

True, the client is out so expect speed hacks, damage increase hacks, gold duplicating and so on.

 

There is NO client out.

 

If there was one, everything was datamined until now.

  usatool

Novice Member

Joined: 1/25/09
Posts: 53

DF Beta Tester.

1/25/09 3:25:05 AM#10

token they have posted a statement in their news section on the official site

not details though... either way youre wrong

  tokenizer

Novice Member

Joined: 1/21/09
Posts: 108

1/25/09 3:27:11 AM#11
Originally posted by usatool

token they have posted a statement in their news section on the official site

not details though... either way youre wrong

 

yeah, i fount the post about that, but even so, i dont believe a word from it.

  siftified

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Joined: 8/23/04
Posts: 261

I miss Darktide :(

1/25/09 3:32:30 AM#12

Heh, the poor OP didn't have a sinlge clue what he was talking about. (mind you he couldn't even spell "attacks")

  usatool

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Joined: 1/25/09
Posts: 53

DF Beta Tester.

1/25/09 3:39:17 AM#13

hahaha sitified i like your avatar

 

and i also miss darktide

  Tuche

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Joined: 8/31/03
Posts: 206

1/25/09 3:58:36 AM#14


Originally posted by Mazdryk
Really... IF darkfall cant handle a DOS atack how do they expect to handle the multiple hacks made possible using a fps shooter type interface?  How can they handle any problems?  THey claimed their game had the best anti-hack defense. 

Noob . . .


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  Thoric485

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Joined: 7/01/08
Posts: 543

1/25/09 4:53:31 AM#15
Originally posted by Mazdryk

Really... IF darkfall cant handle a DOS atack how do they expect to handle the multiple hacks made possible using a fps shooter type interface?  How can they handle any problems?  THey claimed their game had the best anti-hack defense. 

Well, with all the info surrounding the situation already posted there is one thing left to do.

 

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