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  Abrahmm

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1/22/09 7:59:39 PM#21

The fanbois have been paying Tasos their dignity for years now.

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  atziluth

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1/22/09 8:20:46 PM#22
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by xzyax
Originally posted by atziluth
Originally posted by Vutar

How much is everyone being charged to read these forums? I can only guess that is what is causing an uproar from the fanbois since no one is actually playing the game and couldn't possibley have a legitimate opinion on it. 

If you are truely upset because people are critical all I can say is welcome to life and enjoy your stay.  You are going to learn during this "life" that things do not always go to plan.  Most people will adapt, overcome and move on.  If you simply cannot get over people criticizing this game and their honest concerns simply don't read these forums.  How hard is that?. 

Fixed your post for you. GG

Heh... I gotta admit I was thinking the same thing.  

 

I mean at least one of these people posting those kind of threads has to re-read it and then think... you know... perhaps I should take my own advice. 

 

These forums are what they are... if they upset you so much, just don't read them.  Problem solved. 

 

I'll be taking a break from posting for awhile anyway though, so something for some to be happy about I suppose. I'll still be lurking from time to time though.  I'll get a bit more active again closer to the end of Feb. 


Please show where I am being a fanboi. 

 

Comprehension FTL... I did not call you a fanboi directly. However you should take your own advise since you sem to give it so liberally... If you do not like what is being posted on these forums you should refraine from viewing them.

Complaining about people complaining is simply idiotic. GG

-Atziluth-

- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

  Vutar

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Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. -George Santayana

 
1/22/09 8:30:33 PM#23
Originally posted by Lambon

I love when stupid kids post things like this.

No it isn't costing us a penny.

HOWEVER, if they can't please their potential customers, how are they going to sell this fucking game? We are the ones that are interested in it so OBVIOUSLY they must try and reel us in. This is turning a lot of people away and making many of us speculate their so called  great game is any good.

You obviously cannot comprehend this since you are so stupid as to insult the very people who might invest in to Darkfalls future.

 


 

The only person I insulted was the guy insulting me first.  I did not insult anyone else, had you actually read what I wrote you would see this. 

  dalevi1

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1/22/09 8:39:00 PM#24
Originally posted by chiege

Since you asked, it's costing me $319 a day.

 

You are getting off easy.

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  xzyax

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1/22/09 8:41:30 PM#25
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by xzyax
Originally posted by atziluth
Originally posted by Vutar

How much is everyone being charged to read these forums? I can only guess that is what is causing an uproar from the fanbois since no one is actually playing the game and couldn't possibley have a legitimate opinion on it. 

If you are truely upset because people are critical all I can say is welcome to life and enjoy your stay.  You are going to learn during this "life" that things do not always go to plan.  Most people will adapt, overcome and move on.  If you simply cannot get over people criticizing this game and their honest concerns simply don't read these forums.  How hard is that?. 

Fixed your post for you. GG

Heh... I gotta admit I was thinking the same thing.  

 

I mean at least one of these people posting those kind of threads has to re-read it and then think... you know... perhaps I should take my own advice. 

 

These forums are what they are... if they upset you so much, just don't read them.  Problem solved. 

 

I'll be taking a break from posting for awhile anyway though, so something for some to be happy about I suppose. I'll still be lurking from time to time though.  I'll get a bit more active again closer to the end of Feb.  


 

Please show where I am being a fanboi. 

Actually I don't believe YOU were called a fanboi.
 

Although if you are feeling defensive about it....  

  Vutar

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1/22/09 8:42:51 PM#26
Originally posted by xzyax
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by xzyax
Originally posted by atziluth
Originally posted by Vutar

How much is everyone being charged to read these forums? I can only guess that is what is causing an uproar from the fanbois since no one is actually playing the game and couldn't possibley have a legitimate opinion on it. 

If you are truely upset because people are critical all I can say is welcome to life and enjoy your stay.  You are going to learn during this "life" that things do not always go to plan.  Most people will adapt, overcome and move on.  If you simply cannot get over people criticizing this game and their honest concerns simply don't read these forums.  How hard is that?. 

Fixed your post for you. GG

Heh... I gotta admit I was thinking the same thing.  

 

I mean at least one of these people posting those kind of threads has to re-read it and then think... you know... perhaps I should take my own advice. 

 

These forums are what they are... if they upset you so much, just don't read them.  Problem solved. 

 

I'll be taking a break from posting for awhile anyway though, so something for some to be happy about I suppose. I'll still be lurking from time to time though.  I'll get a bit more active again closer to the end of Feb.  


 

Please show where I am being a fanboi. 

Actually I don't believe YOU were called a fanboi.
 

Although if you are feeling defensive about it....  


 

Go ahead and review my post history on here or the official forums. Same name.  Feel free to post anything as to why I would feel guilty. 

  Vutar

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1/22/09 8:46:38 PM#27

Anyway, all of you enjoy your hating.  Heh if I was aventurine or tasos I would keep doing what they are doing just to piss you off. 

  xzyax

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1/22/09 8:48:01 PM#28
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by xzyax
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by xzyax
Originally posted by atziluth
Originally posted by Vutar

How much is everyone being charged to read these forums? I can only guess that is what is causing an uproar from the fanbois since no one is actually playing the game and couldn't possibley have a legitimate opinion on it. 

If you are truely upset because people are critical all I can say is welcome to life and enjoy your stay.  You are going to learn during this "life" that things do not always go to plan.  Most people will adapt, overcome and move on.  If you simply cannot get over people criticizing this game and their honest concerns simply don't read these forums.  How hard is that?. 

Fixed your post for you. GG

Heh... I gotta admit I was thinking the same thing.  

 

I mean at least one of these people posting those kind of threads has to re-read it and then think... you know... perhaps I should take my own advice. 

 

These forums are what they are... if they upset you so much, just don't read them.  Problem solved. 

 

I'll be taking a break from posting for awhile anyway though, so something for some to be happy about I suppose. I'll still be lurking from time to time though.  I'll get a bit more active again closer to the end of Feb.  


 

Please show where I am being a fanboi. 

Actually I don't believe YOU were called a fanboi.
 

Although if you are feeling defensive about it....  


 

Go ahead and review my post history on here or the official forums. Same name.  Feel free to post anything as to why I would feel guilty. 

And I would want to peruse through your 19 posts because.... 
 

 

Heh... for not being defensive or guilty... you sure are taking offense to something that nobody has stated you are. 

  dalevi1

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Joined: 7/12/04
Posts: 858

1/22/09 8:48:04 PM#29
Originally posted by Vutar

How much is everyone being charged to wait for this game? I can only guess that is what is causing an uproar from everyone since no one is actually playing the game and couldn't possibley have a legitimate opinion on it. 

If you are truely upset because "Tasos lied" all I can say is welcome to life and enjoy your stay.  You are going to learn during this "life" that things do not always go to plan.  Most people will adapt, overcome and move on.  If you simply cannot get over the evil Tasos and his vicious lies simply don't play his game.  How hard is that?. 

 

 

Last comment aside. I am not at all upset about a single thing Tasos declared/promised/guaranteed/said/proclaimed about Darkfall. I simply think they are going to rip the mmo world blind followed by claims of how much great stuff is yet to come because (insert excuse here) just so they can continue to rip the mmo world blind. I don't really care what the legion of fans calls me either, it isn't about them, they are sold, and will allow themselves to be ripped for months (starting with a pre-order I might add). As for everyone else, the newcomers that is, they deserve to hear both sides. Basically, I am treating Darkfall like SWG:NGE. Afterall, the only thing that started my inspection of Darkfall was a blitz of negative ratings, and a splash of Drakfall trolling in the SWG refugee forums here on mmorpg.com. So, you got my attention, now you can deal with my opinion of the "game."

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  ProfRed

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1/22/09 8:51:45 PM#30

They have invested more than you could ever understand, and at this point they are just hating to hate.  I seriously wonder what they are going to do with their free time once this game is released...  I believe for at least a week their lives will feel pretty hollow.

  dalevi1

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Posts: 858

1/22/09 8:54:37 PM#31
Originally posted by Vutar

Anyway, all of you enjoy your hating.  Heh if I was aventurine or tasos I would keep doing what they are doing just to piss you off. 

 

I think that was your 20th post! You are not aventurtine or tasos. So, from the way I see it, your preview of the game is about as good as anyone elses. The only difference is that you are buying the promises hook-line-sinker-and-worm. No one here (mmorpg) is pissed off as far as I know. We just refuse to find common ground with posters who haven't a minute experience with what they are advocating. It's pretty simple to be honest, and has generated quite the number of funny-as-hell posts on the forums. 

 

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  Routver

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Posts: 378

1/22/09 9:01:59 PM#32

I'd love to know how much is it costing for the people creating topics such as "please stop posting unless it's for praising", I've seen quite some of them by now.

If it's breaking the forum rules, report it. If it bothers you but it's legit, ignore.

If you can't take the criticism at a game (well in this case it's more about a company's development process and it's PR), there's a place where anything remotely negative is blocked right away, it's called Forumfall.

  Sarg01

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Joined: 6/14/06
Posts: 163

1/22/09 9:13:36 PM#33

Fans of the game have a rational reason to care about negative press for the game. It may depress the eventual population and have real impact on their personal enjoyment when the game does released.

 

I'm having trouble seeing any rational reason for a hater to post frequently.

  Alienovrlord

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1/22/09 9:42:21 PM#34
Originally posted by Ashrik

Zero dollars

The cost of watching Aventurine bumble about like awkward teen at its first school dance while fans either go into full berserk or damage control mode: Priceless


 

It's good to see people giving Aventurine the flak they deserve for their hype and arrogance over the years.     

But as long as Developeras see that there are those willing to swallow their garbage without question, they'll continue to keep getting away with it.   

 

  fyerwall

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1/22/09 9:48:52 PM#35
Originally posted by Sarg01

Fans of the game have a rational reason to care about negative press for the game. It may depress the eventual population and have real impact on their personal enjoyment when the game does released.


 

Then they should actually care about what Aventurine is doing and the run around BS they spouting.

They should also care about the lack of any press, be it good or bad, surrounding the game at this point.

No previews from independant sources

No gameplay vids that show actual gameplay (save for the same 7 vids they keep showing over and over and over...)

Bad press is better than no press at all.

Sadly the only press this game gets is vague press releases from 1 guy, which just happens to be the same press release that was posted a month ago, a month before that, 6 months before that one and 2 years before that.

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1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"

  User Deleted
1/22/09 9:55:38 PM#36
Originally posted by Vutar

Anyway, all of you enjoy your hating.  Heh if I was aventurine or tasos I would keep doing what they are doing just to piss you off. 

That is funny. It seems that if you headed Aventurine it would lose more money than its already losing. And yes, it is losing money because with every lie, delay, etc.... more and more people and losing interest in the game.

Let me explain this and I will lose really little words so you will be sure to understand: Aventurine has made promises and promised the players that the game is ready, has been ready, is perfect, has all the promised features, would not announce a launch date unless its was a sure thing, failed to communicate with their fans well, and a whole lot more. All of this does not win over anyone.

Fans become subscribers; subscribers pay money to play; Aventurine needs this money to keep the game going. If you make the fans angry, they do not buy your game. With recent games promising the world (like Aventurine has done), and not delivering, the fans are more skeptical. That is money that Darkfall needs. By your logic, they should make people angry just because they can. That is not good business at all and if you think it is, you are an idiot. And to even suggest such a thing means you are no fan of Darkfall at all and you do not care about the game....which makes you the worst kind of troll or fanboi...one who only comes to these forums to anger others and inflate your own ego. Next time try harder. At least many of us who post here care about Darkfall and want it to do well, we just remain skeptical and grow even moreso with each passing day of the same ole crap from Aventurine.

  damian7

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why must i be nice to people that have no clue, are lying, or are just stupid?

1/22/09 10:35:46 PM#37
Originally posted by Vutar

How much is everyone being charged to wait for this game? I can only guess that is what is causing an uproar from everyone since no one is actually playing the game and couldn't possibley have a legitimate opinion on it. 

If you are truely upset because "Tasos lied" all I can say is welcome to life and enjoy your stay.  You are going to learn during this "life" that things do not always go to plan.  Most people will adapt, overcome and move on.  If you simply cannot get over the evil Tasos and his vicious lies simply don't play his game.  How hard is that?. 

 

 


 

yeah hi, how are you?  i'm doing good, thanks for asking.

how much are darkfaIlers getting paid to spam the internet promoting this game? 

because i know it's not costing me anything to get really aggravated with darkfaIler poastings on forums that have NOTHING to do with darkfaIl and that spam is really quite annoying.  so maybe if rabid fanbois would leave other people alone....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  damian7

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why must i be nice to people that have no clue, are lying, or are just stupid?

1/22/09 10:46:47 PM#38
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by Lambon

I love when stupid kids post things like this.

No it isn't costing us a penny.

HOWEVER, if they can't please their potential customers, how are they going to sell this fucking game? We are the ones that are interested in it so OBVIOUSLY they must try and reel us in. This is turning a lot of people away and making many of us speculate their so called  great game is any good.

You obviously cannot comprehend this since you are so stupid as to insult the very people who might invest in to Darkfalls future.

 


 

The only person I insulted was the guy insulting me first.  I did not insult anyone else, had you actually read what I wrote you would see this. 


 

 

seriously, if you're here to do damage control or viral poastings on behalf of darkfall (i.e. they're paying you)... you're not going about it correctly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  Kyleran

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A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf

1/22/09 10:51:03 PM#39
Originally posted by ProfRed

They have invested more than you could ever understand, and at this point they are just hating to hate.  I seriously wonder what they are going to do with their free time once this game is released...  I believe for at least a week their lives will feel pretty hollow.

 

Naw, pretty sure once (or rather, if ever) DF releases there will be plenty of comedy that weil ensure lively forum posting for quite some time to come.

Then of course, it will fade into obscurity, as all games eventually do.

 

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  Theodgrim

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1/22/09 10:58:32 PM#40
Originally posted by Vutar

How much is everyone being charged to wait for this game? I can only guess that is what is causing an uproar from everyone since no one is actually playing the game and couldn't possibley have a legitimate opinion on it. 

If you are truely upset because "Tasos lied" all I can say is welcome to life and enjoy your stay.  You are going to learn during this "life" that things do not always go to plan.  Most people will adapt, overcome and move on.  If you simply cannot get over the evil Tasos and his vicious lies simply don't play his game.  How hard is that?. 

 

 


I should calculate how much it costs.  Running a decent clan for Darkfall isnt necessarily cheap.  At least if you want ad-free forums, quality voice servers and the like.  I would not even try to calculate the time and effort spent on the web site, graphics, org, etc...  Bottom line, I am being charged to wait for the game.

What does Tasos have to say about it?  April of 2008:

http://www.warcry.com/articles/view/devjournals/darkfalljournals/3570-Darkfall-Dev-Journal-25-Philosophy

"So why don't we announce a date already? It's because there's no way we'll miss a release date and we're not going to just set a date as a goal, and either postpone or be forced to release something unfinished. We resolve to stick with our release date because we know how people tend to plan around this as far as organization, time and hardware goes when they're looking to make a commitment to an MMORPG, especially a competitive one like Darkfall."

I will give Tasos this much - at least he likely understands, even if you dont.

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