I know it wasn't perfect and I'll probably get flamed, but SWG was really cool in 2004. 
I know so many people who would love to play a game like that again!
So... why isn't anybody making an MMO a lot like that one used to be? 
what do you think?

Too original.

Originally posted by Roosevelt

Too original.

if it were about being original we woudn't have so many clones of "that game"

There are actually two such games in production....

Both sci-fi , and big clones of old swg

if you do a quick google search using certain words you can quite easily find an almost carbon copy of the game being made.  We arent allowed to discuss it here though.

Earthrise, Fallen Earth, Darkfall, and probably more.

Try actually reading about what is in development. Though I guess if you are a carebear and scared of PvP you might not like them.

Originally posted by bobfish

Earthrise, Fallen Earth, Darkfall, and probably more.

Try actually reading about what is in development. Though I guess if you are a carebear and scared of PvP you might not like them.

fps, fps, horrid community.

i dont see anything resembling SWG pre-cu there

Originally posted by admriker4

Originally posted by bobfish

Earthrise, Fallen Earth, Darkfall, and probably more.

Try actually reading about what is in development. Though I guess if you are a carebear and scared of PvP you might not like them.

 

fps, fps, horrid community.

i dont see anything resembling SWG pre-cu there

What do you mean?  1 out of 3 isn't bad ;)

i'm just kidding - i love the SWG community really :)

Originally posted by Death1942

if you do a quick google search using certain words you can quite easily find an almost carbon copy of the game being made.  We arent allowed to discuss it here though.

Why would you not be allowed to discuss an MMO on and MMO site?

That would be alright, almost like blizzard should really make a server for the Original WoW b4 all the shit Expansions which have now totally ruined the game and the main one of the Game aspect was that of the AWSOME world pvp in Wow now there is minimal World pvp other than the ocasional ganker, but no mass scale battles like in the plauglands and Light Hope chappel and the days of that in wow.

Originally posted by admriker4

Originally posted by bobfish

Earthrise, Fallen Earth, Darkfall, and probably more.

Try actually reading about what is in development. Though I guess if you are a carebear and scared of PvP you might not like them.

 

fps, fps, horrid community.

i dont see anything resembling SWG pre-cu there

Earthrise is not a FPS.

But hey, guess you are to smart to read it, aren't you?

Fallen Earth is a TPS, and DF does have a horrible community. But what is wrong with actually having to aim instead of click, pres 1 - 9...?

Originally posted by Thatim

Originally posted by admriker4

Originally posted by bobfish

Earthrise, Fallen Earth, Darkfall, and probably more.

Try actually reading about what is in development. Though I guess if you are a carebear and scared of PvP you might not like them.

 

fps, fps, horrid community.

i dont see anything resembling SWG pre-cu there

 

Earthrise is not a FPS.

 

But hey, guess you are to smart to read it, aren't you?

 

Fallen Earth is a TPS, and DF does have a horrible community. But what is wrong with actually having to aim instead of click, pres 1 - 9...?

Don't you mean "too" smart?  See what you've done?  Your snarky attitude is contagious.

Originally posted by rikilii

Originally posted by Death1942

if you do a quick google search using certain words you can quite easily find an almost carbon copy of the game being made.  We arent allowed to discuss it here though.

 

Why would you not be allowed to discuss an MMO on and MMO site?

Because of "legal" issues surrounding that particular MMO in development....

The only way another game like this would succeed is if it was developed by a competent Indie outfit (like EvE) and not people with high hopes but ultimately poor execution and understanding of the industry (Darkfall).

Big publishers see WoW and want a piece of that pie. They're not interested in catering to the hardcore market .. which let's face it, is probably around 20% of the entire market. Everything is geared toward the casual now. Those of use that grew up during the halcyon days of gaming are now grown up with commitments and less time, and the new generation X-Box want simple, instant-gratification gameplay as it's what they've been brought up on and caters to their ADHD mentalities.

It's been stated many times that if you made a SWG pre clone with Blizzard like polish, it would definitely make money.

Add a bit more content, less empty world space, fix and complete the RvR type combat system between Rebels and Empire, fix the Jedi class and do something else with it besides make people grind every skill in the game to get it, then you'd have something.

I don't know the game everyone is referring to that you can't mention becuase of legal problems. Bar Wars? Instead of light sabers you fight with beer bottles. Is that to close to Star Wars?

SWGEmu isn't Illegal so aslong as you own the original game and they've spoke to SOE and they can't do anything to shut them down legally........

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

It's been stated many times that if you made a SWG pre clone with Blizzard like polish, it would definitely make money.

Add a bit more content, less empty world space, fix and complete the RvR type combat system between Rebels and Empire, fix the Jedi class and do something else with it besides make people grind every skill in the game to get it, then you'd have something.

In essence, fix everything that was wrong with pre-CU SWG and people will play the game.  Of course the same thing could be said about AoC or Tabula Rasa.

I put my time into SWG and quit months before CU.  The game simply did not have anything of substance to hold me.   I loved how you could mix and match what skills you went for and the crafting system was neat (though the UI for it was horrible).  However, once you got the character you wanted there just was nothing of substance to do with it.  You could create a neat entertainer character but then you were pretty much stuck doing the same thing all the time with no way to further evolve.  The final nail was the inability to create alts on the same server.  It completely killed replayability.

Originally posted by Torik

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

It's been stated many times that if you made a SWG pre clone with Blizzard like polish, it would definitely make money.

Add a bit more content, less empty world space, fix and complete the RvR type combat system between Rebels and Empire, fix the Jedi class and do something else with it besides make people grind every skill in the game to get it, then you'd have something.

 

In essence, fix everything that was wrong with pre-CU SWG and people will play the game.  Of course the same thing could be said about AoC or Tabula Rasa.

 

With SWG it's a simple fix though because it wasn't the core mechanics of the game or the lore that wasn't broken but it was aload of small things which hurt the game like Doc buffs and comp armour and Jedi. Just put caps on everything and delete Jedi from the game and make them NPC only.

With Tabula Rasa noone played it because it wasn uninteresting and another generic shooting sci fi type game. You can't really change the art style and the lore and the core mechanics of the game because you might aswel be making a new one.

Age of Conan's major flaw is zoning and how you hit a loading screen every 10 seconds and people don't enjoy that. I would be playing Age of Conan right now if it was seamless like WoW and just had a few isntances for kool dungeons. However I doubt that'll ever get fixed because it's part of the design of the game.

So as you see them games died for reasons that are part of the core design and SWG died becuase of poor management.

So all you Pre-CU people:

Why aren't you playing Ryzom or Neocron?  Maybe if the people who pined for the fjords of Pre-Cu put their money where their mouth is and support games done in a similar vein then people will take you seriously.

Rather than creating thread #11898383 about how SOE is evil because they released some games on steam.

Frankly I just don't beliueve half the Pre-CU lovers.  I think that they are purely the victim of nostalgia, because they don't seem to act consistently.

Originally posted by gestalt11

So all you Pre-CU people:

 

Why aren't you playing Ryzom or Neocron?  Maybe if the people who pined for the fjords of Pre-Cu put their money where their mouth is and support games done in a similar vein then people will take you seriously.

 

Rather than creating thread #11898383 about how SOE is evil because they released some games on steam.

 

Frankly I just don't beliueve half the Pre-CU lovers.  I think that they are purely the victim of nostalgia, because they don't seem to act consistently.

Actually, most of them are playing WoW.  They don't post on here.