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  BarCrow

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1/19/09 4:27:54 PM#1

Is it just me or would anyone else like to play a wild west MMOrpg?...homesteading...different nationalities...outlaws..posses...mining towns..cattle barons....sheep farmers....shoot outs with banditos....indian skirmishes. The only problem would be to make it somewhat accurate and gritty without offending. The stereotypes/beliefs of the time were based on ignorance...but it is still the way it was...and a major part of the conflict of the times...any "wild west" mmo would be lacking if  it was steamrolled over with "PC" ideals.

  sanders01

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To each his own.

1/19/09 4:30:11 PM#2

Racist cowboys shooting at indians, sounds fun.

Currently restarting World of Warcraft :/

  pyrofreak

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1/19/09 4:31:45 PM#3
Originally posted by sanders01

Racist cowboys shooting at indians, sounds fun.

 

This is different than white elves vs black elves, dwarves vs orcs, humans vs, well, different humans how?

 

Face it, the primary characteristic behind nearly all RvR games is racism.

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  Ihmotepp

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1/19/09 4:33:04 PM#4
Originally posted by BarCrow

Is it just me or would anyone else like to play a wild west MMOrpg?...homesteading...different nationalities...outlaws..posses...mining towns..cattle barons....sheep farmers....shoot outs with banditos....indian skirmishes. The only problem would be to make it somewhat accurate and gritty without offending. The stereotypes/beliefs of the time were based on ignorance...but it is still the way it was...and a major part of the conflict of the times...any "wild west" mmo would be lacking if  it was steamrolled over with "PC" ideals.

 

I'm sure you're not alone, but the genre doesn't appeal to me.

I"d rather see a steam punk mmorpg.

  dcoleman07

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1/19/09 4:33:15 PM#5

I'd give it a try for sure, I still say they should make a time travel based MMO that allows you to play in different eras and places in time though.  Swords and sheilds all the way through ships and blasters.

  fyerwall

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1/19/09 4:36:45 PM#6
Originally posted by pyrofreak
Originally posted by sanders01

Racist cowboys shooting at indians, sounds fun.

 

This is different than white elves vs black elves, dwarves vs orcs, humans vs, well, different humans how?

 

Face it, the primary characteristic behind nearly all RvR games is racism.


 

i think its easier to do fantasy racism because it doesnt really offend real life races.

Its kinda like work place gossip, so long as it isnt about you, its ok.

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2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"

  BarCrow

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1/19/09 4:38:56 PM#7

There was a lot of racism during that time. Though it was a major issue of conflict...I'm almost tempted to say the greed ..for land...money..power...might have topped it...or at least weighed in equal on a conflict scale.  There were was a lot of shooting going on all around...I mean..you could play like a John Ford/John wayne western,,,Sergio Leone spaghetti western style...or  you can Dance around with wolves,,doesn't really matter. Even if it were purely realistic and non-cinematic ...I think the action and crafting potential would be great...You could race real world explorers and discover the western trail first..stuff like that.

  BarCrow

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1/19/09 4:44:07 PM#8
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by BarCrow

Is it just me or would anyone else like to play a wild west MMOrpg?...homesteading...different nationalities...outlaws..posses...mining towns..cattle barons....sheep farmers....shoot outs with banditos....indian skirmishes. The only problem would be to make it somewhat accurate and gritty without offending. The stereotypes/beliefs of the time were based on ignorance...but it is still the way it was...and a major part of the conflict of the times...any "wild west" mmo would be lacking if  it was steamrolled over with "PC" ideals.

 

I'm sure you're not alone, but the genre doesn't appeal to me.

I"d rather see a steam punk mmorpg.

Even western with a twist lIke..steampunk...or "Firefly"..would be cool.

  BarCrow

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1/19/09 4:45:44 PM#9
Originally posted by dcoleman07

I'd give it a try for sure, I still say they should make a time travel based MMO that allows you to play in different eras and places in time though.  Swords and sheilds all the way through ships and blasters.

 

That would be cool too....Anyone remember the "RiftS" PnP rpg...sounds like a good base for something like you have mentioned....the programmers would have to be geniuses though.

  BarCrow

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1/19/09 4:47:25 PM#10
Originally posted by fyerwall
Originally posted by pyrofreak
Originally posted by sanders01

Racist cowboys shooting at indians, sounds fun.

 

This is different than white elves vs black elves, dwarves vs orcs, humans vs, well, different humans how?

 

Face it, the primary characteristic behind nearly all RvR games is racism.


 

i think its easier to do fantasy racism because it doesnt really offend real life races.

Its kinda like work place gossip, so long as it isnt about you, its ok.

You're right...I guess a "Crusades" mmo wouldn't go over too well these days either. I was going to compare how other mediums would suffer under such molly coddling...like civil war movies..not mentioning  slavery..although that was probably the last reason why the war ensued...or glossing over the atrocities of WWII...but I understand these are not interactive experiences..so there is no chance ..some sick soul would re-inact his/her  twisted beliefs/fantasies

  Ilvaldyr

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1/19/09 5:17:35 PM#11

I think it's a matter of variety, really.. I mean, in a true-to-setting wild west MMO, you'd be essentially limited to:

1. Dude with gun.
2. Dude with no gun.
3. Indian.

Or possibly:

4. Prostitute.
5. Horse.

Just can't see it working.


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  fyerwall

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1/19/09 5:21:33 PM#12
Originally posted by BarCrow
Originally posted by fyerwall
Originally posted by pyrofreak
Originally posted by sanders01

Racist cowboys shooting at indians, sounds fun.

 

This is different than white elves vs black elves, dwarves vs orcs, humans vs, well, different humans how?

 

Face it, the primary characteristic behind nearly all RvR games is racism.


 

i think its easier to do fantasy racism because it doesnt really offend real life races.

Its kinda like work place gossip, so long as it isnt about you, its ok.

You're right...I guess a "Crusades" mmo wouldn't go over too well these days either. I was going to compare how other mediums would suffer under such molly coddling...like civil war movies..not mentioning  slavery..although that was probably the last reason why the war ensued...or glossing over the atrocities of WWII...but I understand these are not interactive experiences..so there is no chance ..some sick soul would re-inact his/her  twisted beliefs/fantasies

Aye.
 

Though I could totally see a steampunkish western type game working out, where instead of indians and the such they could do the whole "Landed on a new planet and several factions are vying for control of this out of the way outpost. Everything is steampunk because it takes years for supplies to make it out there and the settlers work with what they have on hand.

There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"

  Tecknic

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1/19/09 5:27:16 PM#13

I think that a fantasy western MMORPG would be very possible.  Take, for instance, your classic western settings.  Small towns of wooden buildings set around a few dusty streets, or cut river canyons, long caverns and wide rivers, wagon trains, or even northern grasslands where you may even see a bit of snow.  Then, inject some fantasy elements.  Dwarves, Elves, Orcs, Halflings, and so-on.  And then consider the results.

For instance, a player gang of humans ride into player-run town, and start shooting up the place, firing wildly at anyone who comes near them in an ill-plotted attempt to get to the bank at the center of town.  An elf on a distant rooftop lines up the gang's leader in his rifle's sights and fires off a few rounds at him.  With the gangmembers distracted, a pair of dwarves with shotguns step out from buildings on eiher side of the road and unload on the bandits.  A few more townspeople come out to drive the gang off, or off them entirely if the crooks aren't bright enough to cut and run.

It could be pretty fun.

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  fyerwall

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1/19/09 5:29:23 PM#14
Originally posted by Tecknic

I think that a fantasy western MMORPG would be very possible.  Take, for instance, your classic western settings.  Small towns of wooden buildings set around a few dusty streets, or cut river canyons, long caverns and wide rivers, wagon trains, or even northern grasslands where you may even see a bit of snow.  Then, inject some fantasy elements.  Dwarves, Elves, Orcs, Halflings, and so-on.  And then consider the results.

For instance, a player gang of humans ride into player-run town, and start shooting up the place, firing wildly at anyone who comes near them in an ill-plotted attempt to get to the bank at the center of town.  An elf on a distant rooftop lines up the gang's leader in his rifle's sights and fires off a few rounds at him.  With the gangmembers distracted, a pair of dwarves with shotguns step out from buildings on eiher side of the road and unload on the bandits.  A few more townspeople come out to drive the gang off, or off them entirely if the crooks aren't bright enough to cut and run.

It could be pretty fun.


 

I would soooo stay out of a dwarven brothel then...

Short and hairy women scare me....

There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"

  User Deleted
1/19/09 7:23:10 PM#15
Originally posted by pyrofreak
Originally posted by sanders01

Racist cowboys shooting at indians, sounds fun.

 

This is different than white elves vs black elves, dwarves vs orcs, humans vs, well, different humans how?

 

Face it, the primary characteristic behind nearly all RvR games is racism.

 

You know... elves and orcs don't exist.. LOTR didn't really happen

  pyrofreak

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Peace (noun): A period of cheating between two wars.

1/19/09 8:13:24 PM#16
Originally posted by Tecknic

I think that a fantasy western MMORPG would be very possible.  Take, for instance, your classic western settings.  Small towns of wooden buildings set around a few dusty streets, or cut river canyons, long caverns and wide rivers, wagon trains, or even northern grasslands where you may even see a bit of snow.  Then, inject some fantasy elements.  Dwarves, Elves, Orcs, Halflings, and so-on.  And then consider the results.

For instance, a player gang of humans ride into player-run town, and start shooting up the place, firing wildly at anyone who comes near them in an ill-plotted attempt to get to the bank at the center of town.  An elf on a distant rooftop lines up the gang's leader in his rifle's sights and fires off a few rounds at him.  With the gangmembers distracted, a pair of dwarves with shotguns step out from buildings on eiher side of the road and unload on the bandits.  A few more townspeople come out to drive the gang off, or off them entirely if the crooks aren't bright enough to cut and run.

It could be pretty fun.

 

Don't we have enough fantasy MMOs? Why ruin a perfectly good game with elves?

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  tvalentine

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1/19/09 8:20:54 PM#17

i would play any well done historical MMORPG. People were racist in the past, get  over it imo. If racism is the only reason people could come up with to shoot this game down, then those people need to quit bitching about how there is nothing to play.

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  Quizzical

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1/19/09 8:29:45 PM#18

I believe that you're looking for Bang! Howdy.  Not really massively multiplayer or a role playing game, but it is a multiplayer online game, at least.

  Netzoko

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1/19/09 9:05:44 PM#19

Oh man, I LOVE the wild west theme for just about anything.

I'd play an MMO based on it for sure.

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  Calamar

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1/20/09 4:37:17 AM#20
Originally posted by pyrofreak
Originally posted by sanders01

Racist cowboys shooting at indians, sounds fun.

 

This is different than white elves vs black elves, dwarves vs orcs, humans vs, well, different humans how?

 

Face it, the primary characteristic behind nearly all RvR games is racism.


 

That's why they call them Dark and High (or a variation of this) Elves and not  White Elves and Black Elves. Few companies will risk themselves to be the target of anti-racism (religion based, etc..) associations if they can avoid it.

Games based on history (wargames, fps, etc...) avoid this problems to some extent, but even those companies are careful (and with content censored in some countires).

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