Originally posted by firefly2003

Originally posted by Rydek

Seriously guys give it a break,

ITS BIOWARE, they know how to make incredible games its based on their kotor genre/style they wont ruin it,

They are taking it to the next level, you need to have trust in them,

Would you want to have a game that looks and plays like AOC

Or a game that looks like wow and plays like star wars,

Im for the star wars guys.

 

We dont want a single player game with a monthly fee either but thats what their making... and funny btw the thread I seen posted in here this morning title The State Of The Game and the OP's source about the games intentions and mechanics have mysteriously disappeared, so I take it someones source was right otherwise it wouldnt have disappeared and vanished.

No shit? maybe because it was a BS rumor? The same thing happens in any forum here when people do that. It's why there are moderators here, It don't make any of it true though. Don't read to much into it.

Originally posted by tillamook

Originally posted by firefly2003

Originally posted by Rydek

Seriously guys give it a break,

ITS BIOWARE, they know how to make incredible games its based on their kotor genre/style they wont ruin it,

They are taking it to the next level, you need to have trust in them,

Would you want to have a game that looks and plays like AOC

Or a game that looks like wow and plays like star wars,

Im for the star wars guys.

 

We dont want a single player game with a monthly fee either but thats what their making... and funny btw the thread I seen posted in here this morning title The State Of The Game and the OP's source about the games intentions and mechanics have mysteriously disappeared, so I take it someones source was right otherwise it wouldnt have disappeared and vanished.

No shit? maybe because it was a BS rumor? The same thing happens in any forum here when people do that. It's why there are moderators here, It don't make any of it true though. Don't read to much into it.

I must ask, are you already a fully registered TOR fanboi? You may be the first.

i cant post it here again because of mmorpg.com's policy but if you wish to see what the game is currently like...

http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=6975

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by tillamook

Originally posted by firefly2003

Originally posted by Rydek

Seriously guys give it a break,

ITS BIOWARE, they know how to make incredible games its based on their kotor genre/style they wont ruin it,

They are taking it to the next level, you need to have trust in them,

Would you want to have a game that looks and plays like AOC

Or a game that looks like wow and plays like star wars,

Im for the star wars guys.

 

We dont want a single player game with a monthly fee either but thats what their making... and funny btw the thread I seen posted in here this morning title The State Of The Game and the OP's source about the games intentions and mechanics have mysteriously disappeared, so I take it someones source was right otherwise it wouldnt have disappeared and vanished.

No shit? maybe because it was a BS rumor? The same thing happens in any forum here when people do that. It's why there are moderators here, It don't make any of it true though. Don't read to much into it.

 

I must ask, are you already a fully registered TOR fanboi? You may be the first.

And you aren't the first and last to obviously hate life and everything in it. I'm happy with my life, and I'm fine with TOR. Are you happy with your life? Guess not. lol.

once again. 

Obvious troll is obvious (that's you)

Stop trollin, go outside or something

BTW that site he linked is one I have been part of since day one.  We started out as pissed vets, we have all moved on.

Originally posted by Proximo521

Originally posted by VGTheory

I'd say to get accustomed to it you should play KOTOR and KOTOR 2 while on vent with your friends who are also playing KOTOR and KOTOR 2.  That pretty much sums up what I believe SWTOR will be like.

 

Oh, except with less player interaction.

 

Holy Crap! Really!? You must be a Bioware employee. No... Wait you must have played the game already... right?

Your entire post is an assumption! Nothing more. What you should have said was.... I have no freaking clue what this game is about. But since I have never played it and since its still in PRE ALPHA, I will assume this MMO is just like Kotor except you can talk to people. How bout this, next time try reading the FAQ section on swtor.com...

http://www.swtor.com/info/faq

Just an FYI or a heads up. It gives you just a little bit of information. Just enough so you can get a taste but they leave you hanging for a reason. To get you excited about the game. The problem is.... They are purposely not putting a lot of information out there. People like to take Bioware sentences and want to finish them. Yet all the people that seem to act like they know how this game is going to be... HAVE NO IDEA! I have no idea what this game is like. Because they JUST announced it was coming out 3 months ago. They have 1 freakin video of how it would look. So I have no idea, just curious how you came to yours?

Cheers!

I have to apologize, I completely read over the "sum up what I believe SWTOR would be like".
 

I responded to this post with the impression that he was touting an opinion as fact and that was my assumption.

My assumption was wrong and I am truly sorry.

There's going to be TONS of people from pre-cu swg that are gonna come to this game hoping it will be a pre-cu clone without bugs. Expect a lot of complaining for the first few weeks after launch. This will give the initial subs/sale a huge boost but they will all leave after a few weeks. Nothing on the horizon like good old pre-cu but people are still hoping.

Originally posted by rickbmb

There's going to be TONS of people from pre-cu swg that are gonna come to this game hoping it will be a pre-cu clone without bugs. Expect a lot of complaining for the first few weeks after launch. This will give the initial subs/sale a huge boost but they will all leave after a few weeks. Nothing on the horizon like good old pre-cu but people are still hoping.

Zeiyan. xD 

 Given the rabidity of the SW and wx-SWG fanbase and the shackling effect of a major 3rd party IP.....I think a Mass Effect MMO would have been a much better idea somehow.

Too early to really know what this game is going to be like, and while I am sure bioware has a general direction they are heading chances are things will change along the way.

And while I am sure there are paople out there who like SWG, one version or the other, lets be serious, by most standards it was  buggy, unimaginative and disjointed.

I plan on monitering the developement of TOR and am hoping that when it gets close to launch it is something that I want to play.

Originally posted by firefly2003

Originally posted by Rydek

Seriously guys give it a break,

ITS BIOWARE, they know how to make incredible games its based on their kotor genre/style they wont ruin it,

They are taking it to the next level, you need to have trust in them,

Would you want to have a game that looks and plays like AOC

Or a game that looks like wow and plays like star wars,

Im for the star wars guys.

 

We dont want a single player game with a monthly fee either but thats what their making... and funny btw the thread I seen posted in here this morning title The State Of The Game and the OP's source about the games intentions and mechanics have mysteriously disappeared, so I take it someones source was right otherwise it wouldnt have disappeared and vanished.

micro transactions homie. Free to play.

Originally posted by Pest138

Too early to really know what this game is going to be like, and while I am sure bioware has a general direction they are heading chances are things will change along the way.

And while I am sure there are paople out there who like SWG, one version or the other, lets be serious, by most standards it was  buggy, unimaginative and disjointed.

I plan on monitering the developement of TOR and am hoping that when it gets close to launch it is something that I want to play.

 

It is perfectly clear what it's going to be. The Bussiness model is known and was the start of development direction.

That they now desperately try to cover it up and keep it away from the public. Too late. It's the internet! 

It is pretty obvious it's going to be KOTOR like game with a chat box slammed on top of it.

Why?

- Heavily solo oriented. Heavily instanced. Story driven. NPC companion system (ala Guildwars)

- No emphasis on group content at all. Wich has been said over and over.

- No real PVP. Just some dueling maybe.

- No crafting. Just some pots here and there, so there is some use for a marketsystem.

- Endgame? New storydriven modules you will have to pay for through micro transactions.

So why they are allowed to call it an MMO? Because they slap a chatbox on it, create a central gather area somewhere with a Marketplace.

That's how low the MMO industry has sunk to. 

They want to control your gameplay as much as they can through story driven content for MAXIMUM profit. 

They are going to make it so you are forced to keep buying new story modules to continue progress.

They won't add group dungeons. They won't add RAID's. They won't add real PVP. They won't add a real crafting system. They won't add too many social functions. All stuff we have taken for granted in MMO's these days.

Why? Because it would give you too much freedom, too much alternatives and will hurt their PROFIT. As you won't be forced to buy new story modules if you got plenty of other stuff to do. And that is exactly what they don't want. 

Seriously, there is a reason why so many people have come to hate about what has become of Lucas Arts! 

Well Guillight, if what you have written is true, then I most likely will skip this game.

However, I will still keep tabs on developement, you never know, they might make a good game inspite of the evil influence of GL!

Originally posted by Guillight

Originally posted by Pest138

Too early to really know what this game is going to be like, and while I am sure bioware has a general direction they are heading chances are things will change along the way.

And while I am sure there are paople out there who like SWG, one version or the other, lets be serious, by most standards it was  buggy, unimaginative and disjointed.

I plan on monitering the developement of TOR and am hoping that when it gets close to launch it is something that I want to play.

 

 

It is perfectly clear what it's going to be. The Bussiness model is known and was the start of development direction.

That they now desperately try to cover it up and keep it away from the public. Too late. It's the internet! 

 

It is pretty obvious it's going to be KOTOR like game with a chat box slammed on top of it.

Why?

- Heavily solo oriented. Heavily instanced. Story driven. NPC companion system (ala Guildwars)

- No emphasis on group content at all. Wich has been said over and over.

- No real PVP. Just some dueling maybe.

- No crafting. Just some pots here and there, so there is some use for a marketsystem.

- Endgame? New storydriven modules you will have to pay for through micro transactions.

 

So why they are allowed to call it an MMO? Because they slap a chatbox on it, create a central gather area somewhere with a Marketplace.

That's how low the MMO industry has sunk to. 

 

They want to control your gameplay as much as they can through story driven content for MAXIMUM profit. 

They are going to make it so you are forced to keep buying new story modules to continue progress.

 

They won't add group dungeons. They won't add RAID's. They won't add real PVP. They won't add a real crafting system. They won't add too many social functions. All stuff we have taken for granted in MMO's these days.

Why? Because it would give you too much freedom, too much alternatives and will hurt their PROFIT. As you won't be forced to buy new story modules if you got plenty of other stuff to do. And that is exactly what they don't want. 

 

Seriously, there is a reason why so many people have come to hate about what has become of Lucas Arts! 

And can I please borrow your crystal-sphere for future games? I'd really like to have the inside scoop on games like you do. Really. I mean seriously. Other people would have to be involved in the development process to know as much as you do and call it a fact. Not you...

I am envious sir.

Originally posted by singsofdeath

 

And can I please borrow your crystal-sphere for future games? I'd really like to have the inside scoop on games like you do. Really. I mean seriously. Other people would have to be involved in the development process to know as much as you do and call it a fact. Not you...

 

I am envious sir.

You don't have to envy me.

It just requires time and reading through all the released articles and dev blogs. 

Originally posted by Guillight

Originally posted by singsofdeath

 

And can I please borrow your crystal-sphere for future games? I'd really like to have the inside scoop on games like you do. Really. I mean seriously. Other people would have to be involved in the development process to know as much as you do and call it a fact. Not you...

 

I am envious sir.

 

You don't have to envy me.

It just requires time and reading through all the released articles and dev blogs. 

I've read all the dev-blogs and articles released. And I can't fathom how you can guarantee all the stuff you have posted. I know where you got it from. From an article posted on these boards by admriker4 earlier. Because you say exactly the same things as what was said in the article.

An article which only credibility is that the author/admriker4 says that he has predicted a KOTOR based MMO would be made by BioWare a long time ago. Wow.

So you copied his work, modified it a bit to make it seem like you came up with it by yourself and now claim to have made those conclusions on your own accord.

Sorry if I do not put too much stock into it.

Not to say it may not be like that, but personally, I will believe my own two eyes rather than trusting crystal-sphere gazing prophets on the interweb.

I've read all the dev-blogs and articles released. And I can't fathom how you can guarantee all the stuff you have posted. I know where you got it from. From an article posted on these boards by admriker4 earlier. Because you say exactly the same things as what was said in the article.

 

An article which only credibility is that the author/admriker4 says that he has predicted a KOTOR based MMO would be made by BioWare a long time ago. Wow.

 

So you copied his work, modified it a bit to make it seem like you came up with it by yourself and now claim to have made those conclusions on your own accord.

 

Sorry if I do not put too much stock into it.

 

Not to say it may not be like that, but personally, I will believe my own two eyes rather than trusting crystal-sphere gazing prophets on the interweb.

He cant. People just like to make shit up. Can you guys just have faith? I mean this game is a year off and all these posts are all about the same thing with different names. This forum is full of assholes who spam the same bullshit with out any proof to back it up.

My predictions:

SWTOR will have 1 billion subscribers

SWTOR will suck

SWTOR will be so easier you can cap your leveling in a day

SWTOR will give you candy and tell you your special like mommy and daddy never did

Originally posted by mcharj11

Originally posted by Guillight

Originally posted by Pest138

Too early to really know what this game is going to be like, and while I am sure bioware has a general direction they are heading chances are things will change along the way.

And while I am sure there are paople out there who like SWG, one version or the other, lets be serious, by most standards it was  buggy, unimaginative and disjointed.

I plan on monitering the developement of TOR and am hoping that when it gets close to launch it is something that I want to play.

 

 

It is perfectly clear what it's going to be. The Bussiness model is known and was the start of development direction.

That they now desperately try to cover it up and keep it away from the public. Too late. It's the internet! 

 

It is pretty obvious it's going to be KOTOR like game with a chat box slammed on top of it.

Why?

- Heavily solo oriented. Heavily instanced. Story driven. NPC companion system (ala Guildwars)

- No emphasis on group content at all. Wich has been said over and over.

- No real PVP. Just some dueling maybe.

- No crafting. Just some pots here and there, so there is some use for a marketsystem.

- Endgame? New storydriven modules you will have to pay for through micro transactions.

 

So why they are allowed to call it an MMO? Because they slap a chatbox on it, create a central gather area somewhere with a Marketplace.

That's how low the MMO industry has sunk to. 

 

They want to control your gameplay as much as they can through story driven content for MAXIMUM profit. 

They are going to make it so you are forced to keep buying new story modules to continue progress.

 

They won't add group dungeons. They won't add RAID's. They won't add real PVP. They won't add a real crafting system. They won't add too many social functions. All stuff we have taken for granted in MMO's these days.

Why? Because it would give you too much freedom, too much alternatives and will hurt their PROFIT. As you won't be forced to buy new story modules if you got plenty of other stuff to do. And that is exactly what they don't want. 

 

Seriously, there is a reason why so many people have come to hate about what has become of Lucas Arts! 

 

Bioware actually said on gamespot that PvP will be a big part of ToR and that they are fans of RvR.

So possibly storyline leveling with a Republic v SIth RvR endgame.

As a matter of fact they actually talk about it in an interview. Here is a link..... Enjoy!

http://www.massively.com/2008/10/23/the-old-republic-unveiled-combat-pvp-and-heroics/

Originally posted by Guillight

Originally posted by Pest138

Too early to really know what this game is going to be like, and while I am sure bioware has a general direction they are heading chances are things will change along the way.

And while I am sure there are paople out there who like SWG, one version or the other, lets be serious, by most standards it was  buggy, unimaginative and disjointed.

I plan on monitering the developement of TOR and am hoping that when it gets close to launch it is something that I want to play.

 

 

It is perfectly clear what it's going to be. The Bussiness model is known and was the start of development direction.

That they now desperately try to cover it up and keep it away from the public. Too late. It's the internet! 

 

It is pretty obvious it's going to be KOTOR like game with a chat box slammed on top of it.

Why?

- Heavily solo oriented. Heavily instanced. Story driven. NPC companion system (ala Guildwars) Really then why did they give the scenario of the rescue leia from the death star with  a group? NPC companions are there for story influence, and you do not get to continually keep them or use them. They will leave you if your actions and decisions are not on par with that npc story/characteristics. And the engine is made for a heavy open world with little top no instancing, read up on the hero engine and you will see that. Also the devs talk about wide open worlds, coming out of a cave and seeing the world before you.....did you not watch the last video?

- No emphasis on group content at all. Wich has been said over and over. other than the fact that the devs have stated the game will have solo content AND group story content...yes...no group play what so ever /chuckle

- No real PVP. Just some dueling maybe. Oh really? Since they one the devs have stated this game will have 2 factions heavily warring and controlling aspects of the game (some hint of RVR?) so this is totally untrue.

- No crafting. Just some pots here and there, so there is some use for a marketsystem. Really please show me where they said that? because i heard on the last video that the game, even the lightsaber crafting, will be an adventure and story line, just to be able to create your items.

- Endgame? New storydriven modules you will have to pay for through micro transactions. Proof? I thought not.....just because EA said they were thinking about RMT, the bioware devs have stated no  plans have been placed yet, so again just assumptions

 

So why they are allowed to call it an MMO? Because they slap a chatbox on it, create a central gather area somewhere with a Marketplace.

That's how low the MMO industry has sunk to. 

 

They want to control your gameplay as much as they can through story driven content for MAXIMUM profit. 

They are going to make it so you are forced to keep buying new story modules to continue progress.

 

They won't add group dungeons. They won't add RAID's. They won't add real PVP. They won't add a real crafting system. They won't add too many social functions. All stuff we have taken for granted in MMO's these days.

Why? Because it would give you too much freedom, too much alternatives and will hurt their PROFIT. As you won't be forced to buy new story modules if you got plenty of other stuff to do. And that is exactly what they don't want. 

 

Seriously, there is a reason why so many people have come to hate about what has become of Lucas Arts! 

lol so many misconceptions in this thread its not even funny. next time at least provide actual details rather than ":OMG i hate this game !"

As one of the many original SWG players I am looking forward to SW - TOR with great anticipation. SWG was at first all I ever needed in a MMO, with all its bugs etc, many of us felt we lost this with the many huge changes.

Even so.. that rant is in the past.

It looks like we will finally get the game we have wanted for so long in SW - TOR.

Holy crap... not a single one of you smarties has seen or played this game. If you want an idea of what its going to be like stop thinking about other MMO's and go play the first KOTOR by Bioware and then imagine it expanded into an MMO. That will give you an inkling but not the whole story. Then read what the devs have released thus far and that will give you a better picture. Beyond any of that its all speculation and BS. Its no WOW, its not SWG, its not any other MMO or in any other MMO's setting. Sorry but many centuries pass before you get to the SW universe in SWG from the one that will be in KOTOR. Centuries change a lot of crap.. look at how much Earth has changed and its just one tiny little insignificant world full of even more tiny insignificant little people who think way too much of themselves. We play games to go into different realms and universes to escape the depressing hell that is reality for at least an hour or two a day. When you start in with all of your crap you ruin that blissful picture. Take the game or leave it, but I beg and implore you to please stop biotching so some of us can have our peace and find real information about something we find interesting. Maybe if the game has been out for ages and proven itself to be totally lame like SWG (For whatever reason.. SOE,NGE,flamers,global warming... take your pick)...But until its even released for Beta there's not anything you should be bitching about because there is no game yet! Oiy vey folks.