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...and this is with $0 marketing spent. prior to the October 2008 beta announcement, this number was ~70K, so that's roughly 230K new subs in under months, or ~2K new subs per week.
WAR, which spent roughly 50% of its development budget on marketing, had 700K beta applicants.
this is amazing. i frequently communicate with an old friend of mine who's worked in marketing for over a decade and his jaw dropped when i told him. Darkfall appears to be the most successful example of grassroots viral marketing applied to a software product ever. |
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DarthRaiden
Apprentice Member
Joined: 11/20/05
i make art, Forum Terrorist |
1/13/09 6:33:31 AM#2
They recently got awarded with "Game of the Year 2008" over at mmosite too ..
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE) |
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stayontarget
Guide
Joined: 10/04/08
Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound |
1/13/09 6:35:00 AM#3
And thats what there banking on, aka there trump card to show future investors and the reason they are not showing the game. Why run the risk of losing potential sub's by showing the game. Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries... |
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Shannia
Novice Member
Joined: 11/06/05
"World of WarCraft is held alive solely by the mediocrity of competing products." RendRegen |
1/13/09 6:35:48 AM#4
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
You know the industry sucked in 2008 when a game not even released yet can win Game of the Year on any of these fansites.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware "Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product." |
Originally posted by demolishIX Obvious trolls is realy obvious ... making extra accounts on a forum is fun,until you post about it on another forum,then we can all laugh at you. um... what? are you seriously suggesting *i* alone have created 200K email and forum accounts for the sole reason of posting about it on mmorpg.com?
let's say it takes 10mins to make an email account and sign up on the forum with it. 200K accounts would then take a single person... 10 * 200000 / 60 / 24 / 365 == 3.8years.
WTS a clue. |
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stayontarget
Guide
Joined: 10/04/08
Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound |
1/13/09 6:51:47 AM#6
Its amazing how many disciples one can amass by preaching fire and brimstone. see AOC for example.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries... |
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1/13/09 6:54:45 AM#7
300k forum subs? Yeah, that's plausible; you can build a large community when it's had about eight years to grow. Furthermore, I wonder what percentage of that number are no longer active contributing members to the Darkfall Online forums. Beta sign-ups? I wonder how many of those are actually IN beta. It's like the lottery: you can have one million people buy a ticket, but there may only be a dozen or so winners. The bottom line: all this means little. What will matter is sales and active concurrent game subscriptions. Time will tell. |
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daarco
Apprentice Member
Joined: 12/19/06
I have Darkfall now! |
1/13/09 6:59:55 AM#8
Isnt that great : ) Now maybe the people that wants to play Darkfall can have like a......community. And all the vaportrolls, haters, naysayers and so on can go and play some other game. With 300k fans we dont need the haters anymore. Ad maybe that number will increase even more, so we shouldent fix our eyes on it to much. |
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1/13/09 7:00:25 AM#9
i guess its just because the world is watching...waiting to see if this game hits the floor or not...personally i hope it gets what it deserves. |
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1/13/09 7:06:08 AM#10
Will they be able to handle 300k people wanting to play on the 22nd? I mean will they have enough servers up and running. I know of quite a few people i have been talking to lately are bored with the current mmo's and are looking for something new. Look at how many people purchased AoC and WAR this year even if neither could hold on to the initial interest. Darkfall might not be promoting itself but there if a fair bit of interest around as well as just general curiosity. What 750k people decided to try the game on the 22nd? |
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stayontarget
Guide
Joined: 10/04/08
Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound |
1/13/09 7:08:18 AM#11
Originally posted by daarco I take it you have not visited the holy DF forum site lately. ^^ Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries... |
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1/13/09 7:08:31 AM#12
also like to add,that a game getting insignificant awards and then their cult fan base preaching and worshipping it shows how desperate they are ...
It HAS web page ,wew,webpage man,tis game gunna rock!!! |
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stayontarget
Guide
Joined: 10/04/08
Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound |
1/13/09 7:10:56 AM#13
Originally posted by Mykell If you want to start playing the game on Jan 22 then you better start downloading the client now. You don't want to be late for the dance. Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries... |
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1/13/09 7:23:32 AM#14
Originally posted by stayontarget If you want to start playing the game on Jan 22 then you better start downloading the client now. You don't want to be late for the dance.
Nar. If DF had been released a couple years ago i might have checked it out but i am just sick of fantasy atm. Looking forward to Earthrise personally. |
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Originally posted by Trinitarian
actually, prior to the October beta announcement, it was 70K forum subs, which has grown to 300K in under 3 months, almost 2K new subs a week. with zero advertising dollars spent. |
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1/13/09 7:30:24 AM#16
Originally posted by javac
300k freeloaders is not the same as 300k subscribers. Sucessful viral marketing sells a product it doesn't just generate forum accounts. "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice." ~Greys Law |
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1/13/09 7:30:42 AM#17
Originally posted by javac
actually, prior to the October beta announcement, it was 70K forum subs, which has grown to 300K in under 3 months, almost 2K new subs a week. with zero advertising dollars spent. You had to join the forums to apply for beta. |
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1/13/09 7:53:04 AM#18
Originally posted by stayontarget probly get more subs in this case |
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1/13/09 7:54:02 AM#19
Originally posted by gamerman98 what does it deserve? |
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1/13/09 7:54:35 AM#20
Originally posted by Trinitarian You had to join the forums to apply for beta. which was quite a smart way to do it |
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1/13/09 7:56:11 AM#21
Originally posted by downtoearth You had to join the forums to apply for beta. which was quite a smart way to do it
Which is the way every company does it. "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice." ~Greys Law |
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1/13/09 8:03:29 AM#22
I hear that 77% of all statistics are made up |
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Kyleran
Jovian
Joined: 9/13/06
A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf |
1/13/09 8:06:45 AM#23
Hmm... 300K forum subs, eh, and most of them since the beta announcement. Of course, these numbers are reported by... Aventurine correct? Right, they've never lied to us before of course. Oh wait, yes they have. Wait..yep, before you say it... I am a troll. (though I prefer the term, severe skeptic) But hey, they don't need to lie, DF fanbois are famous for flooding any site's polls with calls to artificially inflate the numbers, and it wouldn't surprise me a bit to find out many DF fans created more than one forum account hoping to increase their chances to get in the beta. (happens in every beta I think, not just DF)
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1/13/09 8:10:28 AM#24
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
This could turn it around for Darkfall... |
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1/13/09 8:18:04 AM#25
Originally posted by Mykell
Most probably not. Seriously.. they may have 5 server at max in the beginning, if it all. The downloading of the client alone will be a pain in the ass.(torrent could really be a good idea) But i am more then curios what will happen at this day. Anyone remember the mess with WAR in europe and the 404 error? hundreds of thousands of possible players unable to get an open beta account and unable to download the client? |
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