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  Frostbite05

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1/09/09 4:08:35 PM#41
Originally posted by Ravanos
Originally posted by JK-Kanosi

 

So I take these awards with a grain of salt, because these rewards don't represent what the majority think or what professionals think like most serious awards.


Currently Playing: WoW

 

of course you would ... i mean how could anything ever EVER beat the "bestest game out there" the love of your life the game you masturbate to WoW.

what a farce i mean LOTRO must have paid all its members to come and rig the contest because nothing could ever ever beat WoW! i mean its just not possible ... everything blizzard does is great, nothing can touch it!

Am i right?

and WoW players wonder why many can't stand them or WoW, heres a clue its not the game so much its the "blizzard did it so it must be the only way to do it" attitude.

 

No buddy we, and im using that term very lightly as there are many retards in WoW and other games for that matter, never say or believe WoW's way is the best. Blizzard unlike most companies put out a game that is fun and playable for every time of player from elitist down to casual. No other game can boast that. The only flaw that is in the game is that the pvp is a sideshow but even that is suprior to LOTRO. Once again i don't hate this game at all just some of the ignorant people like yourself who claim to know it all. As of now LOTRO players are highly respected for not trashing other games/players. You just did both.

  Ravanos

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1/09/09 4:09:06 PM#42
Originally posted by shaggydog

A good measure of a product, is the sales figures.  The same is true for a service.  If you have one service where 60-70% of the market subscribes to that service, then clearly that is the leader for that market.  11.5 million subscribers is pretty significant.

I have to say after playing Everquest 2, Lord of the Rings, Age of Conan, Warhammer, and World of Warcraft that by far World of Warcraft is the best offering available so far.  The quality of the game far exceeds that of other products.  The variety and balance of the game is far superior.  The graphics may not be as realistic as other games, but it's bright and cheery, and the game is just fun to play.

 

so other game companies should just stop making MMOs unless they know they can draw 11.6 million subscribers ... because until then WoW should win every award?

 

  shaggydog

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1/09/09 4:15:45 PM#43
Originally posted by Ravanos
Originally posted by shaggydog

A good measure of a product, is the sales figures.  The same is true for a service.  If you have one service where 60-70% of the market subscribes to that service, then clearly that is the leader for that market.  11.5 million subscribers is pretty significant.

I have to say after playing Everquest 2, Lord of the Rings, Age of Conan, Warhammer, and World of Warcraft that by far World of Warcraft is the best offering available so far.  The quality of the game far exceeds that of other products.  The variety and balance of the game is far superior.  The graphics may not be as realistic as other games, but it's bright and cheery, and the game is just fun to play.

 

so other game companies should just stop making MMOs unless they know they can draw 11.6 million subscribers ... because until then WoW should win every award?

 

 

Absolutely not, that's just silly.  Just because there is a clear market leader doesn't mean to say that other games in the market aren't still good.  I'll probably go back to playing Lord of the Rings, or Warhammer when I get bored with WoW.  Lord of the Rings is a very good game.  I enjoyed my time there.

there's also a few good games I'm looking forward to, such as Stargate Worlds, Star Wars: Old Republic & Star Trek Online.

  Ravanos

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1/09/09 4:18:26 PM#44
Originally posted by Frostbite05

 never say or believe WoW's way is the best.

 

of course you do you proved that in your last post ... if WoW doesn't win every award it must be because of "WoW hate". not that people enjoy LOTRO and think thier expac is great ... but because everyone must hate WoW that much.

 

its not a conspiracy there was no gunman on the grassy knoll ... get over yourself and get over the whole "blizzard is the best" BS. I don't even play LOTRO by the way before you say im a LOTRO fanboy i just can't stand stupid WoW players bashing another game because WoW didn't win.

  Kordesh

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1/09/09 4:50:37 PM#45

 I'm not even going to read the rest of the thread, because I know it's likely going to be a disaster since WoW didn't win. 

Anyway, congrats once again Turbine, definitely deserved. Not so huge on the "solo" class addition, but the rune mage is pretty cool, the legendary system is novel, and as always, the new area has just the right feel to it. Not surprised Eve did well either. I've never really been able to get into the game but their expansions have always been pretty solid (at least from a content standpoint, we'll not mention the patch that almost hosed a ton of windows systems >_>) . As for WoW, self explanitory. I do like that they actually put focus back on the lore at least somewhat. 

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  silkakc

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1/09/09 5:08:14 PM#46

Congratulations Turbine!! Thank you for the 102% effort you put into your game!

  User Deleted
1/09/09 6:10:56 PM#47

I am glad Turbine won as from my experience they deserved it. I voted for it and as some pointed out it wasn't simply because they advertised it.  I've seen these same types of adds on other mmos I've played but I have never felt compelled to go and vote for them which is what I think distinguishes Turbine apart right now.  I have no problem saying that Turbine is giving people what they want right now as and not many are coming close right now.  I don't agree with all the WoW hate it's just a game and it is well produced, easy to play and works well and given what some companies have no problem putting out nowadays that has to be applauded. If you like LOTRO take pride in your David beating the Goliath WOW but honestly it's not worth geting your blood pressure up.

 

  User Deleted
1/09/09 10:54:51 PM#48
Originally posted by Frostbite05

Great game althought once again this sites anti WoW hate has shown in full colors.

 

... this site has shown its hate of WoW...

Well, let's see..

The people who come here voted... not MMORPG.com staff.

And, I do recall a recent review of WoTLK here, by a MMORPG.com statff member, that described it as "freaking awesome" and went on to pile much praise on it.

Yeah... So much hate.

  User Deleted
1/09/09 11:01:19 PM#49
Originally posted by JK-Kanosi

With just under 4k votes casts for this award, it shows how little read this website is by the majority of MMO players in the genre. I mean hell, 4k people is almost what DAoC has active on a daily basis.

So I take these awards with a grain of salt, because these rewards don't represent what the majority think or what professionals think like most serious awards.

... except that MoM is getting high praise from "professionals" as well; assuming that by "professionals", you mean major gaming sites and publications. Just look around at the  reviews from different gaming sites and magazines. They all give it high scores.

That, and polls never represent an entire population, but a sampling of it. The poll is no different here. And, given the praise it's getting in the press, I think the results of this poll are at least consistent.


 

  Ginaz

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1/10/09 1:34:38 AM#50
Originally posted by duwat1982d
Originally posted by pileopoop

This poll is rigged, Lotro posted on their main webpage to vote for them.


 

How does that make it rigged if they did that? Blizzard could have done the same thing. Did Turbine make the decision on who won? Please explain it to me because I must be missing something. Not seeing how it makes it rigged.

Blizzard doesn't  need to ask its players to vote on a meaningless poll.  They don't exactly need the publicity. 

While I am really loving WoW's latest expansion (much more than the last one) I've heard pretty much only positive things about Mines of Moria, so it seems to be a deserving winner.

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  Neopsych

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1/10/09 5:48:13 AM#51

Man, this stuff makes me laugh. Heres my two cents:

1 - Congrats to Turbine, its a great game for PVE players and I enjoyed it and the MoM pack greatly.

2 - The fact Turbine publisced the vote to their community is good marketing for a game that wants to ensure long life and sensibly take every free opportunity to make the world more aware of Lotro.

3 - I also play WoW and enjoyed Wotlk greatly as well. Personally I do not think Blizzard needs to worry about independant website polls. Its the sales rate and the monthly subscription payments that matter to them (COS THEY ARE A BUSINESS) and clearly the world has already voted on their exp pack.

4 - The mere fact that this vote was based on such a pathetically small base of people which clearly represents such a tiny community of the overall players who feel passionatly about all of the games nominated says more about how redundant the poll is rather than an opinion of the games quality or popularity themselves. Eve (another game Ii like a lot) has one of the most passionate and loyal customer bases alive today and they could not be bothered to take part.

Still is serves to fill a nice lilttle thread of discussion no matter how irrelavant the vote itself has turned out to be,

My only desire is that all of these companies prosper and continue to invest in regular expansions so we can keep enjoying them. 2 years was a long wait in WoW. Congrats to all of em for still being alive and profitable in this increasingly competitive and fickle market.

lastly: Much love to Eq1 and Eq2 - my love of MMO's grew through you.

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  rturja

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1/10/09 6:15:29 AM#52

...how many gamers *really* visit corporate website... And the polls were advertised on every board of the games I do play, I quess even WoW boards had the go vote announcements. Vae victor as the Romans used to say :P

Congrats to Turbine!

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Played: UO, DaoC, Horizons, Ryzom, WAR, LotRO, Eve, VG...

  Taniquetil

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1/10/09 7:30:22 AM#53

Gratzy Turbine , well deserved :D

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  laresloci

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1/10/09 8:18:33 AM#54
Originally posted by Neopsych

Man, this stuff makes me laugh. Heres my two cents:

1 - Congrats to Turbine, its a great game for PVE players and I enjoyed it and the MoM pack greatly.

2 - The fact Turbine publisced the vote to their community is good marketing for a game that wants to ensure long life and sensibly take every free opportunity to make the world more aware of Lotro.

3 - I also play WoW and enjoyed Wotlk greatly as well. Personally I do not think Blizzard needs to worry about independant website polls. Its the sales rate and the monthly subscription payments that matter to them (COS THEY ARE A BUSINESS) and clearly the world has already voted on their exp pack.

4 - The mere fact that this vote was based on such a pathetically small base of people which clearly represents such a tiny community of the overall players who feel passionatly about all of the games nominated says more about how redundant the poll is rather than an opinion of the games quality or popularity themselves. Eve (another game Ii like a lot) has one of the most passionate and loyal customer bases alive today and they could not be bothered to take part.

Still is serves to fill a nice lilttle thread of discussion no matter how irrelavant the vote itself has turned out to be,

My only desire is that all of these companies prosper and continue to invest in regular expansions so we can keep enjoying them. 2 years was a long wait in WoW. Congrats to all of em for still being alive and profitable in this increasingly competitive and fickle market.

lastly: Much love to Eq1 and Eq2 - my love of MMO's grew through you.

 

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  Cor_Desh

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1/10/09 10:32:12 AM#55

Congratulation Turbine / Codemasters.

  Karahandras

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1/10/09 11:00:49 AM#56
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by JK-Kanosi

With just under 4k votes casts for this award, it shows how little read this website is by the majority of MMO players in the genre. I mean hell, 4k people is almost what DAoC has active on a daily basis. i think that only 4k voted may have something to do with the lack variety available in the mmo world too

So I take these awards with a grain of salt, because these rewards don't represent what the majority think or what professionals think like most serious awards. going by sales alone MOM would be at the bottom of those four so i have to agree

I honestly though mmorpg.com was read by a much wider playerbase than it really is, but I guess we all can't be right all the time. It's a good thing I'm trying to only come here for updates on MMO's in general now, because that's something the mmorpg.com staff is pretty good at keeping us up-to-date on.

I really apologize to those who will read my post and get bent out of shape over it, but look at this from my point of view. I looked forward to these awards to see what the majority of MMO player out there thought about the game. I've viewed these awards for a few years now. Only now I've noticed that less than .01 % of all MMO players out there actually voted on these rewards. Knowing that less than .01% of the MMO population voted for the rewards, how special do these nominations really mean to people now? i can't say that i feel they are an accurate reprisentation either:(

 


 

Well, I don't think people can blame you for having an opinion, especially since you stated it clearly without embellisment.

But to be honest I think the idea that Turbine has one 3 of these awards speaks volumes for this site as it seems that this site tends to be skewed more toward the pvp/sandbox crowd. how so?

But again, this is not to give Turbine a trophy or or monetary award. Anyone who came to this site within the alotted time could have voted. unfortunately not many ppl did

It's just a bit of recognition. Do people dislike Turbine or their work? Sure. But if WoW or Eve would have won you would have seen equal posts as to how those games didn't deserve it. even before the voting was in, those voting for lotro were saying how eve always wins and doesn't deserve to

How many "wow is the antichrist" posts pop up on this site? Or "who can play eve, it's a gankfest version of Excel that puts me to sleep" actually not that many that i've seen but those that do tend to be very vocal

Everyone has their favorites and everyone has their reasons. It just so happens that this time around a good many people felt that Turbine deserved this modest bit of recognition. under 2k of the 1mil members this site has voted for MOM so i do have to question the 'good many' sorry

this result does make me wonder how many marketers and fanboys with multiple accounts spammed votes, considering how few copies of MOM seem to have been sold

next time any chance of a none of the above being added to the list?

  Sovrath

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1/10/09 1:42:59 PM#57
Originally posted by Karahandras
Originally posted by Sovrath


 

Well, I don't think people can blame you for having an opinion, especially since you stated it clearly without embellisment.

But to be honest I think the idea that Turbine has one 3 of these awards speaks volumes for this site as it seems that this site tends to be skewed more toward the pvp/sandbox crowd. how so?

But again, this is not to give Turbine a trophy or or monetary award. Anyone who came to this site within the alotted time could have voted. unfortunately not many ppl did

It's just a bit of recognition. Do people dislike Turbine or their work? Sure. But if WoW or Eve would have won you would have seen equal posts as to how those games didn't deserve it. even before the voting was in, those voting for lotro were saying how eve always wins and doesn't deserve to

How many "wow is the antichrist" posts pop up on this site? Or "who can play eve, it's a gankfest version of Excel that puts me to sleep" actually not that many that i've seen but those that do tend to be very vocal

Everyone has their favorites and everyone has their reasons. It just so happens that this time around a good many people felt that Turbine deserved this modest bit of recognition. under 2k of the 1mil members this site has voted for MOM so i do have to question the 'good many' sorry

this result does make me wonder how many marketers and fanboys with multiple accounts spammed votes, considering how few copies of MOM seem to have been sold

next time any chance of a none of the above being added to the list?


 

1, because the majority of posts I see tend to be about how sandbox games are the end all and be all. My sense would be that this site would be skewed more toward a game like eve rather than one that follows similiar gameplay mechanics like WoW

2, Depends on what you mean "not many did". Whether you know it or not MANY people go to game sites but to not contribute. I can't tell you how many times I've received pm's on different sites where someone was asking a question and they then said that though they visit the sites they don't participate in polls or discussions. So there could have been 5 times the visitors on this site (or pick a number) but who just don't participate in these things. Had they participated they could have voted for another game and MoM wouldn't have won. Or they could have voted for MoM and it would have won by a huge landslide.

3, That could be true. the point is that there are die hard fans on all sides and no matter who the winner is someone is going to say that they shouldn't have won. for x reasons.

4, I disagree, I see many posts on this site that lambaste WoW and what its perceived effect on the mmo world has been or that Eve is a boring game or a gankfest etc. Regardless of whether it is true or no. Is it a majority? Most likely not but sure, they are vocal but they consistently pop up.

5, You read that wrong. When I say a good many I never said "a good many from this site". A good many who participated in the poll voted for it. Given the numbers who voted and the percentages would you say that was incorrect? That a good many of those who participated in the poll didn't vote for it?

 

I also think that too many players vote with their likes and dislikes and not for what really makes sense.

When I vote in these polls I don't vote for favorites. I vote for what makes sense. So in the past I have voted against games I have played because I had felt another game did something better or achieved something notable. Just because a player votes for something doesn't mean that he/she find it his/her favorite.

So for instance, if the poll was asking for the most polished game with the most features I could very well have just voted for WoW because I think it has loads of polish and loads of features. I don't play it a lot because it's not my favorite game.

Had the poll asked for the most in depth game with the most choices I would have voted for Eve as i think it has quite a bit on most of these games. But I don't actively play Eve for a variety of reasons. That doesn't mean that I can't, as an intelligent person, recognize its strengths.

My sense is that many people don't do that and they just vote with their loyalites no matter what.

  GungaDin

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1/10/09 3:12:08 PM#58

 This award is so stupid.  Its basically between the WOW and LOTRO expansion.  Who cares.  Wooptie doo !

  HYPERI0N

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1/10/09 6:24:55 PM#59
Originally posted by GungaDin

 This award is so stupid.  Its basically between the WOW and LOTRO expansion.  Who cares.  Wooptie doo !

 

So which one did you vote for then?

 

[im betting it was not the winners heh]

Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981

  GungaDin

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1/10/09 7:04:30 PM#60

Didnt vote. 

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