Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by winter

Originally posted by rageagainst

Originally posted by xzyax

Yup.

 

It would be pretty amazing if DarkFall lives up to what they've claimed. 

 

That's the difference. 

Some of us are willing to admit that DarkFall might not even be close to what Tasos claims.   It's o.k. to NOT hype a game up to impossible to reach heights... and still want to play it when it comes out.  

Really... it is. 

lies u R a trollz! :P

  Sadly it seems the Doubters can stay out of the "I love Darkfall thread" as was requested, but the Rabid  fanbois trolls can't stay out of the "I'm skeptical of Darkfall" thread.
 

Rabbid fanboy trolls? Thats a term I've never heard before. Talk about idiotic made up titles. 

These rabid fanboys wouldn't exist if morons hadn't spent years mindlessly laughing to themselves and convincing themselves Darkfall was all a basement scam. 

See the biggest difference between us two is that I can see past my skepticism because of  small amount of information, aventurine being a unexperienced team , the unannounced beta delays etc... and see that DFO has really good features announced and would be indeed quite good to play it complete, while you are so in love with DFO that you cant see past it, and even question aventurine's a bit shady business practices to say the least, is some sort of sin.

Because of this you feel compelled to convince everyone that their opinion and questions are wrong because in your mind the possiblity of a failed release or  that the game does not have the features Tasos promised cannot exist, and somehow questioning its legitimacy will cause it to fail.

This is all over your post refer to what i highlighted in Yellow, why would you care if someone conviced themselves this was a basement scam if not because of some blind obsession.

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by winter

Originally posted by rageagainst

lies u R a trollz! :P

  Sadly it seems the Doubters can stay out of the "I love Darkfall thread" as was requested, but the Rabid  fanbois trolls can't stay out of the "I'm skeptical of Darkfall" thread.
 

Rabbid fanboy trolls? Thats a term I've never heard before. Talk about idiotic made up titles. 

These rabid fanboys wouldn't exist if morons hadn't spent years mindlessly laughing to themselves and convincing themselves Darkfall was all a basement scam. 

 Ok you are a Fan yes? So why exactly are you trolling this post dispite the guidelines set out in the OP? Yes there is a "I Love Darkfall" thread with the same guidelines for fans such as yourself to post your love and 100% belief in DF, or are you saying you actually have doubts in Aventurine, Darkfall and Tasos now?

If so please fell free to post your doubts as this is the purpose of this thread. (Your not here to derail the thread with fanboistic hype are you when theres already a thread set up for just such a reason?)

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by SignusM

Rabbid fanboy trolls? Thats a term I've never heard before. Talk about idiotic made up titles. 

These rabid fanboys wouldn't exist if morons hadn't spent years mindlessly laughing to themselves and convincing themselves Darkfall was all a basement scam. 

So youre saying vaportrolls created fanbois who behave like  mindless slobbering idiots and post absurd drivel? Isn't there free will involved in that some how? Or is this some irresitable compulsion that's transmitted  through reading these forums?

 LOL. Best joke of the day, thanks

Is it just my imagination or did NO ONE get that the OP made this thread as a SPOOF on a fanboi thread that stated the same way?

"The rules of this thread....blah blah blah....no negativity....blah blah blah....if you don't go by my rules, you will be reported....blah blah blah"  Did no one but me read that OTHER thread?

I read the OP's post and just ROLLED laughing because it was such an obvious slam to the OP of the other thread!  LMAO

(By the way....I didn't wade through every post in the thread to find out if anyone else actually caught the spoof....mostly because I've gotten sick to death of reading DF threads at ALL.)

Originally posted by girlgeek

Is it just my imagination or did NO ONE get that the OP made this thread as a SPOOF on a fanboi thread that stated the same way?

"The rules of this thread....blah blah blah....no negativity....blah blah blah....if you don't go by my rules, you will be reported....blah blah blah"  Did no one but me read that OTHER thread?

I read the OP's post and just ROLLED laughing because it was such an obvious slam to the OP of the other thread!  LMAO

(By the way....I didn't wade through every post in the thread to find out if anyone else actually caught the spoof....mostly because I've gotten sick to death of reading DF threads at ALL.)

 

Heh... yeah most of the skeptics caught on.
 

For some reason though a certain segment of those who have posted here... they seemed really angry about the idea of a thread allowing only skeptics to post... never mind the obvious hypocrisy when the same outrage wasn't expressed in the other thread. 

Yes, from looking at the two threads it should be pretty clear who is actually doing the trolling. 

Originally posted by girlgeek

Is it just my imagination or did NO ONE get that the OP made this thread as a SPOOF on a fanboi thread that stated the same way?

"The rules of this thread....blah blah blah....no negativity....blah blah blah....if you don't go by my rules, you will be reported....blah blah blah"  Did no one but me read that OTHER thread?

I read the OP's post and just ROLLED laughing because it was such an obvious slam to the OP of the other thread!  LMAO

(By the way....I didn't wade through every post in the thread to find out if anyone else actually caught the spoof....mostly because I've gotten sick to death of reading DF threads at ALL.)

 

The discussion has come a long way tho. It is actually quite funny looking at both threads and how many pages they have.

Originally posted by rav3n2

Originally posted by girlgeek

Is it just my imagination or did NO ONE get that the OP made this thread as a SPOOF on a fanboi thread that stated the same way?

"The rules of this thread....blah blah blah....no negativity....blah blah blah....if you don't go by my rules, you will be reported....blah blah blah"  Did no one but me read that OTHER thread?

I read the OP's post and just ROLLED laughing because it was such an obvious slam to the OP of the other thread!  LMAO

(By the way....I didn't wade through every post in the thread to find out if anyone else actually caught the spoof....mostly because I've gotten sick to death of reading DF threads at ALL.)

 

 

The discussion has come a long way tho. It is actually quite funny looking at both threads and how many pages they have.

Yup.

It just goes to show you that there isn't much discussion unless there is some healthy skepticism. 

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by rav3n2

Originally posted by girlgeek

Is it just my imagination or did NO ONE get that the OP made this thread as a SPOOF on a fanboi thread that stated the same way?

"The rules of this thread....blah blah blah....no negativity....blah blah blah....if you don't go by my rules, you will be reported....blah blah blah"  Did no one but me read that OTHER thread?

I read the OP's post and just ROLLED laughing because it was such an obvious slam to the OP of the other thread!  LMAO

(By the way....I didn't wade through every post in the thread to find out if anyone else actually caught the spoof....mostly because I've gotten sick to death of reading DF threads at ALL.)

 

 

The discussion has come a long way tho. It is actually quite funny looking at both threads and how many pages they have.

 

Yup.

 

It just goes to show you that there isn't much discussion unless there is some healthy skepticism. 

And intelligence. Intelligence is on our side

It's funny how we have about 3.5 times the posts lol. That is most likely the reason the fan-trolls (see a play off vapor-troll) have come here to enjoy our skeptical wisdom.

PS. I do think the game will come out but that belief could wane with another delay with a bad excuse.

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by rav3n2

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Talin

Now you're all just being silly.

Everyone knows the world ends on January 21, 2009, hence the choice of January 22nd as Darkfall's release date.

 

 

No it ends in 2012 but that was a typo the Mayans made too, it's 2022 really. Oh my god it's full of typos!

 

We are probably in for a "I was misquoted" excuse from Tasos really, they havent posted anywhere so there isnt really any other official word from them.

It probably wont happen because all of this drama MMORPG.com gets more clicks and more money from adverts but if it doesnt release on the 22nd it should probably be removed of MMORPG.com mmo list.

Why would it get removed from the MMO list because of a delay? Did Age of Conan? Did WoW? Did LotRO? No. Oh but now I see your name,. you're another one of those people that just go around trolling. 

Actually if you stay on topic with the OP, this is a thread about skepticism concerning Darkfall, therefor his statements are not trolling, and you were not the target audience. I do respect your right to respond though. 

I have to admit now that i am completly dubios as to whether Darkfall with be any good. Not just from all the reports i am reading, but 2 actual videos on youtube have not impressed me at all.

I know it is still in beta, but i highly doubt anything at all will change with teh release date set only a couple of weeks away or so. So again, for me, failed to take a first hand look will = no purchase from me at all (just like AoC-(even though thats on offer, i have been told by countless people after askign not to even bother), Warhammer-(US servers are were to go, EU-instant failure, but alot of people are saying that even the US servers are starting to dwindle now).

So i am left with still playing Warcraft (even though, wotlk was quite fun at first, but at 80 you will find it to be somewhat also a big dissapointment). It also lacks that something. To me the best WoW days have to be Pre-Burning Crusade. (BC lost something wow had, and wotlk has taken that to an extream). But still, i am used to playing an online game, and WoW is still the best one out at the moment. With SoE doing what they have done, there aint no way i will go back to EQ2. Vanguard has (i believe another free account time) though i just found out when someone mentioned it in passing. Don't know if i can be bothered to go take a look and see whats changed. If they carnt be assed informing old players, then obviously they dont really give a damn anyways. I can see SoE going under this year if they do not change their attitude to looking after their customers and fixing broken relations with old customer player base.

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Did I say that you all (skeptics) are wrong. I'm even skeptical, but when the game has been in development for 8yrs, and has went from a horrible engine to a sub par one theres no reason to think that they didn't spend most of their time on actual game play.

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But then again, Daikatana and Duke Nukem Forever turned out to be fairly revolutionary, so you may have a point.

All jokes aside- after being shown a somewhat weak side of the game, there is nothing but pure optimism that could make me think "well, the rest of it must be extra good then".

Originally posted by Ashrik

 

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Did I say that you all (skeptics) are wrong. I'm even skeptical, but when the game has been in development for 8yrs, and has went from a horrible engine to a sub par one theres no reason to think that they didn't spend most of their time on actual game play.

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All jokes aside- after being shown a somewhat weak side of the game, there is nothing but pure optimism that could make me think "well, the rest of it must be extra good then".

You have seen the gameplay video right?  Most of the primary features were shown in that video.

Full loot, FPS style gameplay, open-world environments, graphics, various races and cities, city sieges, ship battles, FFA, warhulks, mounts, the UI, itemization, and others.

I'm not sure how someone could still think those features are vaporware.  Those are, in fact, what the developers said the game would have.

Originally posted by girlgeek

Is it just my imagination or did NO ONE get that the OP made this thread as a SPOOF on a fanboi thread that stated the same way?

 

 

Yes, I think we all got that. 

If not meeting expectations means the game becomes vaporware then WoW should have died 2 years ago.

Have we truly regressed to the point of trusting gameplay videos as proof of good gameplay?

A video could tell me that, indeed- Warhammer Online does have fortress sieges and crafting. It'd be fun to trust it as 'confirmed' but experience alone lets me know that they are crappy and do not fit in well with the game as a whole.

Are they even actually activated in the game? Why has no beta leaker commented on your city sieges, your ship battles, warhulks, mounts, or itemization (??) yet? In what way do these things make up the "primary" features in what is supposed to be a sandbox MMO? In a game in which the premise is "you can do or make anything", showing me the very end results of 5 of those things is not proof of that claim. It's proof that you've made art assets for 5 things.

Originally posted by Mwaji

If not meeting expectations means the game becomes vaporware then WoW should have died 2 years ago.

WoW maybe did not meet your expectation, but it must be meeting some peoples.

Originally posted by Ashrik

On that topic, Gnomad

http://www.ddj.com/architect/199300084

Interesting read, thanks for the link, of course the Eastern Europe in the article are all former Soviet Block countries which last I looked didn't include Greece. They also state many times in the article that it is because of cheap labor that some companies are locating some programming there not that it is the quality of the programmers.

Therefore I stand by my original statement.

BTW after the announcement by one of  the largest computer companies in India today which drove the Indian stock market down 7%, I really wonder just how much these "experts" writing technology articles really know and how well "plugged in" they really are.

Edit: My apologies to the OP I will endeavor to stay on topic in the future

Originally posted by Gnomad

Originally posted by Ashrik

On that topic, Gnomad

http://www.ddj.com/architect/199300084

 

Interesting read, thanks for the link, of course the Eastern Europe in the article are all former Soviet Block countries which last I looked didn't include Greece. They also state many times in the article that it is because of cheap labor that some companies are locating some programming there not that it is the quality of the programmers.

Therefore I stand by my original statement.

BTW after the announcement by one of  the largest computer companies in India today which drove the Indian stock market down 7%, I really wonder just how much these "experts" writing technology articles really know and how well "plugged in" they really are.

Indeed, I don't know what kind of place some of you guys think Greece is but it's in western europe, was never behind the iron curtain as is basically the same as the UK, France, Germany, Italy ect except a bit smaller.  It has pretty much the same standard of living as the US.

Originally posted by Gnomad

Originally posted by Ashrik

On that topic, Gnomad

http://www.ddj.com/architect/199300084

 

Interesting read, thanks for the link, of course the Eastern Europe in the article are all former Soviet Block countries which last I looked didn't include Greece. They also state many times in the article that it is because of cheap labor that some companies are locating some programming there not that it is the quality of the programmers.

Therefore I stand by my original statement.

BTW after the announcement by one of  the largest computer companies in India today which drove the Indian stock market down 7%, I really wonder just how much these "experts" writing technology articles really know and how well "plugged in" they really are.

Edit: My apologies to the OP I will endeavor to stay on topic in the future

LOL!

No worries here.  It's been an interesting discussion.