Originally posted by Rydran

HAHAHA! Ascension08. I like the Avatar. I would love to see you on the battlefield. I play on Zolkmar (I did just reroll my main. so I am only lvl 13 right now) but want to move to a ORvR server. Look for the Maruader with your buddies bodies laying at my feet. =P (J/K)

Alright, I'll be the Knight in back slapping around a stupid stunty Runepriest who won't heal me just because I told him he looked like Santa Claus. 

Hey Metal. Is it hard to get rolling from square one in EVE? I have heard nothing but good things about it but I am sceptical due to the people telling me that you have to have an active sub for at least a yr before you can go out and do anything without getting ganked. Is any of that true?

HAHAHAHA!!! You rock Asecension! Nice sig BTW.

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Originally posted by urbanmech

 
1.2 million copies - sold to retailers, not end users (customers)
800K subscribers - during people's first FREE month of play, much lower now
1 million active subscribers - totally wrong. I think what you are refering too was 1 million characters created. Each account could have 10 characters.

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I still don't see anything to refute what Mythic claimed in November. They had 800k subs. That was pretty well beyond the 1st month trial for people who bought at launch.

They have likely lost some players, and gained others. I've been in game lately, and it's far from a ghost town. Badlands server has near instant Scneario queues, with ORvR in at least the first 3 Tiers all over the place.

Warcraft Realms is showing 200k active subscribers through their census addon, and I'm pretty sure that is a low estimate considering the addon is still in Beta.

I think the only thing we know for sure is that WAR hasn't hit a million yet, or it would have been announced, but I also think it is much higher than just the 200-250k mentioned in some earlier posts.

Originally posted by Rydran

Here is a link to Nov.08 numbers of subs. 800k and climbing!!!

 

http://www.gamebump.com/go/warhammer_online_exceeds_800000_subscribers

 

No it doesn't.

Wrong conclusions from a foolish website. Read the statement they link. This is the same 800k accounts created we've been hearing since released. It also states the 1.2 million units sold to retailers which we already heard of in september. That financial statement's fiscal quarters ended *in* the free month of WAR. It's the still the same, only and last number we have heard from EA/Mythic ever since release. Also, 800k accounts created = 800k subs *until* the free month ends. At that point it's only true if you believe in a 100% retention rate... (lol)

Will that number have risen? Of course it will, accounts created can't go down, it only goes up.

And if for some reason you want to believe that that 800k is not the 800k accounts created they have been using all this time then how do you explain they would still use a clear "800k accounts created"  well into november  when they announced their "here we come Korea" announcement? PR Blunder? If they had something else to mention you can be sure they would have.

 "Developed by Mythic Entertainment, WAR is a groundbreaking new MMORPG that launched in North America, Europe, Asia and Oceanic territories in September and has attracted more than 800,000 registered users since launch. The game will be launched in Korea in 2009."

My bad, "Registered Users" not "Accounts created". Practically same thing though.

Originally posted by Rydran

Hey Metal. Is it hard to get rolling from square one in EVE? I have heard nothing but good things about it but I am sceptical due to the people telling me that you have to have an active sub for at least a yr before you can go out and do anything without getting ganked. Is any of that true?

 

heh you could get WTFPwned in Eve as a 5 year old player.

But to answer ur question, nahh its not hard to get going I say maybe three months and ur in a really kick ass ship and pvping with ur corp. Which is a decent amount of time.

Anyway I know this maybe against my normal "lets get people to play eve" attitude but in march eves next free Xpac comes out and along with in comes a totally revamped new player experience and new Epic story arc system. I wouil wait till march if u wanna start new the games going to have a ton of new players trying that out for you to kill.

Thanks for the info Metal. I will probly try it in March then. I have always wanted to try it.

I always hate it when people are asking "is it worth it?"  How in the world are we suppose to know what your style of MMO preference is--along with your financial means.  C'mon man, do some research and if it fits your style of gameplay then give it a try if you can afford the 35 dollars or so for the software and free 1 month.  

Of course WAR has it's bugs, well it did when I quit playing a couple months ago.  But overall, it is a good game for what it is trying to accomplish.  It is a more PvP focused WoW, IMO.  It is a lot of fun if you have a good guild, but if you were to solo it then I think it would be very frusterating at times. 

Like I said, we don't know what you look for in MMOs.  I look for player housing, skill-based, harsh death penality, most items craftable, and NOT gear-centric.  So WAR, while it was a good game for me that I enjoyed, did not have enough of my main qualities I look for which forced me to quit. 

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Ridgelon

I played DAoC from release up until people dropped off the servers and now have played War since release.  War's RvR is the best!!  No other mmo out there even comes close to touching it.  WoW and AoC suck, I played those at release and some expansions packs on WoW.  Don't listen to these 12 year old idiots who think after playing WoW that they know something, (WoW is not what a real mmo is all about , its made for the masses, not real mmo players).  War works great for solo play (mostly what I do) and even better for group play.  The ORvR they added is great, nice to get rewards for killing people while I wait for a RvR scenario to open up.  All in all, if your worried about $50, wait a year, then they will have a demo out most likely.  Or, take a chance and get it, you might find that its between the best or worst game you ever played :P.

 

The line I highlighted is one of the primary reasons why I disagree and didn't care for the game. ORvR should not have been an add-on, and RVR scenarios made it a WOW clone, and not a successor to DAOC.

Add to the fact its really a game and not a world like DAOC was, and you begin to understand why the game didn't work out fo rme.

Doesn't mean the game is bad, if you prefer a heavy focus on getting in and out of combat quick and easy, with no real risk or reward, WAR is your game.

Like most of the other folks said, only you can decide for yourself whether you will like WAR or not.

 

The game did not grab me for the same reason Kyleran mentioned.I would suggest that if you want to try it go ahead.There's only two possibilities,you either love it or hate it.

Alright, Well im going to search for a trial. So if any one knows any one with one let me know. I figure one free month is good enough to decide. If you hate it, or love it.

RvR Sounds pretty cool, And it's still in early release. So ill just look at the core mechanics, and pass by the things that are small and fixable.

Thanx for the input the 5 pages of comments were a good read.

Originally posted by neonwire

No it isnt worth it. You could wait 3 - 4 months if you like but you would be better off just buying a different game completely. There are more interesting games in the pipeline. WAR is just boring as hell.

It never even gave me the OOO Pretty and new and I wonder how this will pan out feeling of some other games...

I can't find anything about trial keys. I cant even find there official forum...eh

There is no official forum.

And as far as keys go....someone offered them to you at least 3 different times IN THIS THREAD.

Go back and check the posts, heh.

Originally posted by daelnor

There is no official forum.

And as far as keys go....someone offered them to you at least 3 different times IN THIS THREAD.

Go back and check the posts, heh.

Man, I wish I could get a freaking key, I wanted my wife to try the game (trying to get her away from WoW lol)

Ive been a complete failure on these forums trying to get one and this guy that can't read back posts gets offered three.

anyway this is my last shot my Email is Metalhead9806@yahoo.com

maybe someone will be kind enough to let my wife try the game lol

I have a level 39 Shadow Hunter on Badlands

33 Witch elf on Dark Crag

The level cap is 40 btw. I think its a fun rvr game, Its not a big pve game atm, although mythic seems pretty good about adding new material fast, and overall its a solid built game. As for paying $50, personaly I would look on ebay I have seen the product keys selling from 10-15 dollars and just download the client save yourself some cash :)

Hey Metalhead980

I sent you a pm to get a code from me to try out WAR if you want. Anyone else want to one? PM me and I will send you one.

Originally posted by Aka-Shadows

Ok, I've Heard and read the bashing and the praising. But what i want to know, is the game worth it.

Or should i just wait for 3-4 month's before diving in head first.

I know AoC was in a similar predicament. But i also heard it improved. Overall is WAR worth the 50$.

Or will it be worth the 50$ in a while, becuase if not, there are alote of new mmo's commin out and i can wait.

" Game looks sick : )"

You can't take the opinion of people unless you understand what they like.

The easiest way to tell that is to look at the posting history of the people that praise the game as well as the bashers. You'll get a clearer understanding of who is who and what they like.

If their opinion matches yours, positive or negative, you have are closer to an answer as opposed to just buying the game.

It was just announced a few days ago that official forums are on their way.  For now, there are semi-official forums here:  http://www.warhammeralliance.com/

I have a code for the OP.  Send me a PM with your first name and email address and I'll hook you up. :)

Forums - There is many but no official forum ( they are useless anyways ).  But if you are looking for something of substance then warhammer alliance and we also have a nice gathering at mmorpgslave.com

Keys - All you have to do is post that you want one anywhere, on any forum, and soeone will send one to you.  If you can;t get one come to mmorpgslave.com ( our guilds website ) and post on our forum ( there is one for getting free keys ).  So far we were able to get one for everyone who posted.

Originally posted by Aka-Shadows

Ok, I've Heard and read the bashing and the praising. But what i want to know, is the game worth it.

Or should i just wait for 3-4 month's before diving in head first.

I know AoC was in a similar predicament. But i also heard it improved. Overall is WAR worth the 50$.

Or will it be worth the 50$ in a while, becuase if not, there are alote of new mmo's commin out and i can wait.

" Game looks sick : )"

Posts like this are a waste.  You've read the bashing and praising but you what to know is the game worth it.  Stop and think what that means.  It means you'll read more bashing and praising in this thread.  How much do you have to read before you do what you should've done before posting?  Play the game for yourself.  You want us to make up your mind for you.

There are tons of warhammer online videos on youtube.