Originally posted by Zerocyde

Good. The crapier the better. If you want pretty then go play some AoC with the rest of the kids.

Haha that's exactly what I think. 

Originally posted by Roosevelt

Originally posted by altairzq

Animations and avatars are the worst I have seen in many years. The only explanation I can find for this, is too sad to write it here.

 

Seriously I am going to say this right here and now. You sir are the biggest troll of Darkfall. Yes you! Not the people who say "Vaporwarezzz!" over and over. Not the people who constantly belittle the games development cycle. No it is you Altairzq. Want to know why? Your a closet troll, the one who lurks in the shadows in every post, trying to find some small pointless reason to throw down the game but never coming out full force and saying anything outright "Troll-like".  Your the one who is always cheering the trolls on like some puppet colorguard for the onlookers amusement.

 

You know what else ticks me off about you? Your EQ Avatar. Why the hell would you complain about a games character animation and graphics and then have a forum avatar respresenting a game from 1999?

i must agree with this

Originally posted by RightInThere

Have you guys seen this stuff!!! www.viddyou.com/viddstream

This has to be some of the most choppy animations I have seen since Wolfenstein. My god this stuff looks outdated. I really hope they have gameplay elements in place because they can't score on animations, graphics and the smothness of the experience. 

Well as you know i am always honest and straight forward,so i try to be fair.

That actually did not look too bad at all,much better than what i expected to see from this game.I would say 200% better than what i expected.

Yes some of the animation/movements seemed a little off/choppy but over all ,that is much better looking than WOW and 8+ years old?hmm not bad.If  WOW looked that good,Blizzard would gain a small bit of credibility for hiring 300+ to work on that game lol.,and the so called millions they spent.Remember Aventurine or the original staff was like 5 guys,i REALLY hardly doubt they have many more than that working on it now.

If these guys had 300 employees and the Blizzard bankroll,imagine how superior this game might be?it pretty much shows a decent effort by such a small developer.Again i was impressed by the INITIAL/FIRST video i have seen from this game.More to come and of course i would have to actually play it ,to see how well it is designed.

Originally posted by nathanpinard

Originally posted by RightInThere

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by onlinenow225

So when WAR's attack animations were choppy and bad it was all bitch and moan. (don't know if they still are)

But when the so called god send of all games Darkfall has terrible, I mean terrible animations its okay?  How can one game get flamed to all hell, and have a saposive bad launch yet if Darkfall has shitty attack animations its okay. (would call WAR the best launch of any MMO maybe a little above or at least next to LORT)

Can anyone shed some light on this to me?  I've been watching this game because well, it might be fun to stealth gank people and make someones life a living hell untill they unsubscribe.  But, with the mentality of bad animations = okay, then I really hate to see were this game is going.

I laughed at jokes about Tasos, how hes a God figure.  But really its getting to that point.  The fanboys really seem to only think good of this game.  Yet the evidence shows that it is not going to be so good.

 

But anyways can I please be told why horrible I mean worst ive ever seen in a damn video game attack animations in Darkfall is okay, yet in WAR its complete doom and death of the game.

 

WAR wasn't flammed for having crappy graphics,. although that was some people's complaint. It was flamed for taking WoW BGs and basing a game on it. And WAR is only the "best" launched MMO if you didn't follow it. They removed nearly half the game from beta to launch, something not done in many MMOs (world size reduced, class completly removed to be fixed and added latter, mechanics dumbed down, ect). I guess thats what you have to do when you are published by the evil empire.

Edit: This is the most recent video of the game. http://www.viddyou.com/viddstream?videoid=43966

much better than the vid found by the OP

Game looks launch ready to me

 

Better yes but NO.. It sucks, for christ sake look on the combat the 1 us clubswing animations, the riding animation. Look on the shadows virtually painted on the ground. It does not look that good and I still think it looks worse than WAR.

 

Which video are you looking at?

I think he is looking at this one.

www.viddyou.com/viddstream

It still needs ton's of work before release.

I don't understand the people following Darkfall and expect triple AAA title quality. This game started in a garage. This is an indie game. Im surprise that everyone expectations are so high. Some know this and only want the harsh enviroment from leaks it told to provide it.
 

On topic beta players said the enviroment is great looking but everything else is crap( characters, animations, and effects)

To everyone saying "graphics aren't everything" gameplay is what counts the most. Well lets get serious and honest here, graphics effect gameplay, crappy animations do as well.

Another thing all you people calling others "trolls" for expressing opinions, get a life? Give over,  if the game had something decent to offer there would be no "Trolls" and as far as I'm concerned, I want to know what makes this game good, and what makes this game bad. Without trolls there would just be a complete hype fan fest. That normally leads to a massive dissapointment. Let people express ideas, and maybe try and counter them with some ACTUAL evidence, not just spam. ()

 I'm shocked that there are still people posting here that don't realize thats an alpha video from 2-3 years ago. 

As for needing graphics to play, look at WoW. It had the most pathetic graphics I'd ever seen and its doing fine. If the graphics were bad 4 years ago, they're TERRIBLE now, yet people still play. 

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Originally posted by skippz

 

To everyone saying "graphics aren't everything" gameplay is what counts the most. Well lets get serious and honest here, graphics effect gameplay, crappy animations do as well.

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I REALLY hate when the gfx lovers say this. THIS IS YOUR OPINION. IT IS NOT FACT. Let's get serious and honest here, graphics effect gameplay, crappy animations do as well, FOR YOU. That's your problem and lack of taste, don't push it on me.

Originally posted by SignusM

 I'm shocked that there are still people posting here that don't realize thats an alpha video from 2-3 years ago. 

Then post a new one !

Originally posted by RightInThere

Have you guys seen this stuff!!! www.viddyou.com/viddstream

This has to be some of the most choppy animations I have seen since Wolfenstein. My god this stuff looks outdated. I really hope they have gameplay elements in place because they can't score on animations, graphics and the smothness of the experience. 

HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

You honestly have no clue how much things have changed in the past 20 years...

Seriously get a grip and take a look at the past century... the past 2 centuries... and then take a look at the past 20 years.

Then look at gaming today.

Appreciate what you have and quit saying: 
 

It could have been better.

Because everything could have been alot worse.

Originally posted by stayontarget

Originally posted by SignusM

 I'm shocked that there are still people posting here that don't realize thats an alpha video from 2-3 years ago. 

Then post a new one !

....Why don't you just go to the website and look it up? Its not very hard. Here, let me dig up an ancient video of WoW and laugh at how bad it looked 5 years ago. 

Youtube, Darkfallworld.com, anywhere just look for the new videos, go go go. 

I'll be honest, graphics mean squat to me. Gameplay, a good crafting system and depth is all that matter IMO. I began playing ultima online again for the last week just because a lot of the darkfall features are an updated upgraded version, and I still love it. I played uo for 7 years and never bashed the graphics once because the game was SO DAMN GOOD. The only downside that burned uo was the cheats and the eventual loss of population. I have been begging for a 3d version of UO and from all that I have read, this may be BETTER than I hoped. The last 3 years all I did in UO was crafting, so my type of gameplay may really benifit from full looting.  If the graphics are not the best on the block, well it won't bother me in the slightest. From what I have seen, the graphics are more than sufficient. I would rather better frame rates personally once we get into the large scale battles. I tend to turn graphics all the way down in games like AOC just to improve performance anyway, not because I need to, but because a lot of it is useless fluff anyway.

The graphics are...acceptable at best, honest opinion. But if it does indeed have the outstanding features and gameplay that it says it has, I have no problem ranking it 9+...But let's not forget that we have a serious lack of real visual info, either it goes the good or bad way we'll see soon enough right? Not many games to this day had everything it said it will have at release...hopefully DF will be a exception as its been in development for nearly a decade?

Originally posted by RightInThere

Have you guys seen this stuff!!! www.viddyou.com/viddstream

This has to be some of the most choppy animations I have seen since Wolfenstein. My god this stuff looks outdated. I really hope they have gameplay elements in place because they can't score on animations, graphics and the smothness of the experience. 

Dont play it then  BYE:p

How stupid are you? This video was from at LEAST as early as February 2007.

Epic fail troll, epic fail.....

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/416450/darkfall_online_trailer/

Added: 06-Feb-07

 *edit* People really do want this game to fail, don't they haha?

Originally posted by RightInThere

Have you guys seen this stuff!!! www.viddyou.com/viddstream

This has to be some of the most choppy animations I have seen since Wolfenstein. My god this stuff looks outdated. I really hope they have gameplay elements in place because they can't score on animations, graphics and the smothness of the experience. 

Go watch this 30min ingame movie    http://www.darkfallworld.com/node?page=2

If you still say its crap you are a troll simple as that.

ive watched it and i don't think its crap just average

i just watched another video and saw SHADER use,i am impressed ,i did not think these guys had much in them.For such and old game,these guys are far ahead of most other efforts,especially for that era in time.Why are people being negative here?Did anyone expect this good a looking game from Aventurine? i for sure did not.It is a notch up on WOW most certainly.

As far as others stating game play matters more,well of course that is a no brainer.However you can say the same thing in reverse,good game play and pong graphics is a worse game IMO.

I can say without a doubt that Graphics will NOT be any source of issue here in this game.We need to wait and play it ,to better judge how well this game is done.It will be hard for me to swallow,because i am spoiled by FFXI's sub class system and combat,but i will wait and see how it goes here.

you knnow, in the end, graphics are not as important as gameplay. I dont mind 2nd tier graphics if the game itself is fun!. This is one of the reasons I always go back to DAOC.

Still, graphics are something that can easily be updated after game launch

Originally posted by Zerocyde

 

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Originally posted by skippz

 

To everyone saying "graphics aren't everything" gameplay is what counts the most. Well lets get serious and honest here, graphics effect gameplay, crappy animations do as well.

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I REALLY hate when the gfx lovers say this. THIS IS YOUR OPINION. IT IS NOT FACT. Let's get serious and honest here, graphics effect gameplay, crappy animations do as well, FOR YOU. That's your problem and lack of taste, don't push it on me.

Yet it's springs up constantly "Graphics aren't everything" if we're not allowed to push it on you, don't push your rubbish on me.......lol.

If you honestly want to support something that looks like c***, that's your beef I guess.....

Originally posted by skippz

Originally posted by Zerocyde

 

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Originally posted by skippz

 

To everyone saying "graphics aren't everything" gameplay is what counts the most. Well lets get serious and honest here, graphics effect gameplay, crappy animations do as well.

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I REALLY hate when the gfx lovers say this. THIS IS YOUR OPINION. IT IS NOT FACT. Let's get serious and honest here, graphics effect gameplay, crappy animations do as well, FOR YOU. That's your problem and lack of taste, don't push it on me.

 

Yet it's springs up constantly "Graphics aren't everything" if we're not allowed to push it on you, don't push your rubbish on me.......lol.

 

If you honestly want to support something that looks like c***, that's your beef I guess.....

the animations can be polished in future updates, so i don't see that as too much and issue for gamers
 

Originally posted by Wizardry

i just watched another video and saw SHADER use,i am impressed ,i did not think these guys had much in them.For such and old game,these guys are far ahead of most other efforts,especially for that era in time.Why are people being negative here?Did anyone expect this good a looking game from Aventurine? i for sure did not.It is a notch up on WOW most certainly.

As far as others stating game play matters more,well of course that is a no brainer.However you can say the same thing in reverse,good game play and pong graphics is a worse game IMO.

I can say without a doubt that Graphics will NOT be any source of issue here in this game.We need to wait and play it ,to better judge how well this game is done.It will be hard for me to swallow,because i am spoiled by FFXI's sub class system and combat,but i will wait and see how it goes here.

The FFXI system was greate until it was tatined by cookie cutting

haha xipher i agree 100%[cookie cutting].Anyhoot,this about DF here and i think many should give the game at least a chance,especially since the graphics look like there was some effort put into the game here.

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Originally posted by Wizardry

 

haha xipher i agree 100%[cookie cutting].Anyhoot,this about DF here and i think many should give the game at least a chance,especially since the graphics look like there was some effort put into the game here.

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I agree as well especially after reading this article

http://df.warcry.com/news/view/85297-Darkfall-Yellowbeard-Visits-Aventurine

If the game was launch ready then, its launch ready now.

Originally posted by Wizardry

haha xipher i agree 100%[cookie cutting].Anyhoot,this about DF here and i think many should give the game at least a chance,especially since the graphics look like there was some effort put into the game here.

I never cared for DF, In fact i did not tink it was going to come out.  I am going to try it, I am 98% sure im not going to like it i think its going to be a gank fest 99.5% of the time, and i dont find spawn, die, spawn, die fun.