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1/06/09 8:24:11 AM#121
Originally posted by almerel Hmmm.. If there were any major leaks the fanboys would have them linked everywhere on the forum.
And get themselves suspended and banned? You *could* read the stickies on the forums and see the consequences of people doing that, but i *think* that would be too much work for you. There are leaks by the way, just not on the official forums. DUH. You know, the ones that are monitored and content removed that violates the NDA.. Sheesh. |
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1/06/09 8:25:51 AM#122
Originally posted by VoodooHoodoo
Quote: 'Again we have to bring the servers down to address several issues, to catch up, and to get out the new patch. Servers will be back up on Friday January 2nd in the evening (Europe). When they come back we expect more monsters and the dungeons to be in. We'll also have playtesting guidelines for you having to do with skill and spell balance and pvp. To facilitate PvP and advanced testing, we'll start letting in more testers, around 1000 next week and more the week after that.' You too, could find this information if you tried..
Again... posted from a betaleaks site... not from the official site, or a Dev.
I do happen to believe that the intent in that piece is real... but Aventurine hasn't had issues with intent... it's been the follow-through they've been a bit shaky on. |
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1/06/09 8:27:30 AM#123
Originally posted by VoodooHoodoo Hmmm.. If there were any major leaks the fanboys would have them linked everywhere on the forum.
And get themselves suspended and banned? You *could* read the stickies on the forums and see the consequences of people doing that, but i *think* that would be too much work for you. There are leaks by the way, just not on the official forums. DUH. You know, the ones that are monitored and content removed that violates the NDA.. Sheesh. Speaking of... With just 16 days until launch... Why is the NDA still up? What is there to hide at this point? |
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1/06/09 8:27:42 AM#124
Originally posted by rav3n2
People seem to like to link alot GNi with how good or with the quality of DFO or Aventurine it just shows fanbois are loosing their grip on this game and want to grab to whatever litle piece of information that in their mind makes it real and good. GNi as a business doesnt really care if DFO is good or not, they simply provide the server hosting, sure if it succeeds they will make money but they are not doing any quality control, just because Tasos called in to GNi and probably arranged some kind of contract to possibly host a DFO server does not make it good, for all GNi cares he can then host TheNoobComic as long as they get paid they will provide the service. Because the best baker in the world has made you some bread it doesnt necessarily mean your gonna create the best hamburguer in the world.
This is probably the smartest thing you've said in this thread that I've read. I totally agree. GNi will take their money for as long as Aventurine keeps paying them. End of the day, it could be a rubbish product and as long as GNi get paid, they could care less. |
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1/06/09 8:31:02 AM#125
Originally posted by VoodooHoodoo
This is probably the smartest thing you've said in this thread that I've read. I totally agree. GNi will take their money for as long as Aventurine keeps paying them. End of the day, it could be a rubbish product and as long as GNi get paid, they could care less. Which brings up the question: What are Aventurine's plans for Customer Support? Who is providing Technical support? Who is providing In-game support? Will there be a trouble-ticket system? |
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1/06/09 8:31:25 AM#126
Originally posted by VoodooHoodoo
So they are doing a press beta, before they actually test the game with people? That is very smart, lets let the reviewers in before it is actually tested. Btw can provide any proof of "there doing a press beta atm" or you just made that up?
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess. But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you or him have anything to backup these claims. On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information. And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
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1/06/09 8:34:04 AM#127
Originally posted by downtoearth
geese maybe yous hould search darkfallleaks on google man you guys are in for a surprise the mid december bet agot delayed when the release got delayed geese is that so ahrd ot firgure out stress test WILL be done during open beta but sof ar even witht hem adding people there bene no stbaility issue only a few bugs that are minor and soem gameplayt weaking needed but 0 stability issues. cant oyu guysa open oyur minds alil and think hey maybe they actully did somethign right unlike this big name mmo companies pshh ><
Wer eyou durnk wehn yuo typde thsi as ist naerly impossbile to raed |
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1/06/09 8:39:42 AM#128
Originally posted by rav3n2
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess. But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims. On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information. And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
Actually his statement was it would FINISH in early December. They never gave a time-frame on when it would start.
But, it's been said over and over by downtoearth (nevermind that he's been wrong over and over)... that because they had to push back the Release of the "Feature Complete" and "Ready to Launch" game; that OPEN Beta has been pushed back as well.
With 16 days left until Release day... time will soon run out to come up with more reasons why there is no update. But I am sure that even if we hear nothing from Tasos by the 23rd, there will be a good excuse for it. |
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1/06/09 8:43:17 AM#129
Who cares ... doesn't matter ... DF will be a game when it releases, until then it's guess work and a good topic for the forums. I hope it releases and is a good solid game. If not then i guess it'll be a coaster along with the much hyped war and aoc. After the last year of mmo releases I just can't get excited about a launch anymore, to many that did not live up to what was said. .... ..... Talk is cheap,,, show me the game. |
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1/06/09 8:45:04 AM#130
Originally posted by Lydon Haha.
Let's put it this way...the game has been in development for 8 years. So if 2000 people are currently beta testing it, do you honestly think that not even a single one of them would leak *something* to prove that the game is indeed there in a playable form and that it is near ready for release? Not a single one of those 2000 people will make some sort of mention about the 8 year-long debate topic? Those are either testers sent from up above or they don't exist. LMAO. This post made me actually laugh, but it's so true. I have been around in gaming for nearly 20 years by now and EVERY game (FPS, RTS, RPG, MMORPG, etc) that had a Beta with gamers as Testers had leaks! Every single one of them! Period! Just think about that for a moment, let it sink in and then react, instead of blind rage fanboy posting.
Let's face it. It's really strange and pretty ackward that there are hardly any leaks out there (you can google all you want... it's the same old crap videos and screens we have seen years ago already... being reposted over and over). The fact that merely 2 weeks from so called launch they still haven't bothered to update their own friggin website! Financial reports say that they spend well over 20 million euros on development of this game. So that gotta be earned back within a sertain timeframe. Banks are pretty much unforgiving and impatient when it comes to payback of loans, not to mention when money comes from investors! I am all for trying to launch small and build up from there. CCP did the same with EVE Online. But that is not the issue here. Cheers |
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1/06/09 8:53:54 AM#131
Originally posted by rav3n2
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess. But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims. On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information. And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
If you had followed their cycle of releasing information in the last ~9 months, you'd know that prying information out of them is near on impossible. I understand the concept of proof as well as you do. I fail to see how a 3rd party site could have that infomation without being told. Can you suggest another way as to why they would say that? Nothing to back it up apart from a 3rd party website for "proof". Does this mean anything I read on this site about other games being developed is not "proof"? For example, Mortal Online. I see you have a forum dedicated to it. How do I know it's really in alpha testing? See what I'm getting at? You asked for proof. Proof was provided, that didn't meet your stringent concept I guess. Feel free to disbelieve. Granted, Tasos said there would be open beta in December. A good point to make. I guess you'd have to consult with him as to why it didn't eventuate. Lastly, I'm not a blind fanboy. I merely check this site out once a week or so, see what's written and reply. I am a healthy skeptic. Doesn't mean I can't hope for the best though, does it. You don't need to tell me about reading comprehension. I do well enough, thanks. |
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1/06/09 8:54:18 AM#132
Originally posted by Guillermo197 LMAO. This post made me actually laugh, but it's so true. I have been around in gaming for nearly 20 years by now and EVERY game (FPS, RTS, RPG, MMORPG, etc) that had a Beta with gamers as Testers had leaks! Every single one of them! Period! Just think about that for a moment, let it sink in and then react, instead of blind rage fanboy posting.
Let's face it. It's really strange and pretty ackward that there are hardly any leaks out there (you can google all you want... it's the same old crap videos and screens we have seen years ago already... being reposted over and over). The fact that merely 2 weeks from so called launch they still haven't bothered to update their own friggin website! Financial reports say that they spend well over 20 million euros on development of this game. So that gotta be earned back within a sertain timeframe. Banks are pretty much unforgiving and impatient when it comes to payback of loans, not to mention when money comes from investors! I am all for trying to launch small and build up from there. CCP did the same with EVE Online. But that is not the issue here. Cheers
You are absolutely right I wouldnt have put it better myself, but dont worry in no time you will get the response "but DFO is different", people have convinced themselves that somehow DFO has broke the mold and its using some unseen undiscovered development and marketing techniques, its to such an extreme that I have read people saying that they dont care about making money.
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1/06/09 8:55:47 AM#133
Originally posted by xzyax
I can't answer those, I have no information to give. Wish I could though! |
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1/06/09 9:04:55 AM#134
Originally posted by rav3n2 LMAO. This post made me actually laugh, but it's so true. I have been around in gaming for nearly 20 years by now and EVERY game (FPS, RTS, RPG, MMORPG, etc) that had a Beta with gamers as Testers had leaks! Every single one of them! Period! Just think about that for a moment, let it sink in and then react, instead of blind rage fanboy posting.
Let's face it. It's really strange and pretty ackward that there are hardly any leaks out there (you can google all you want... it's the same old crap videos and screens we have seen years ago already... being reposted over and over). The fact that merely 2 weeks from so called launch they still haven't bothered to update their own friggin website! Financial reports say that they spend well over 20 million euros on development of this game. So that gotta be earned back within a sertain timeframe. Banks are pretty much unforgiving and impatient when it comes to payback of loans, not to mention when money comes from investors! I am all for trying to launch small and build up from there. CCP did the same with EVE Online. But that is not the issue here. Cheers
You are absolutely right I wouldnt have put it better myself, but dont worry in no time you will get the response "but DFO is different", people have convinced themselves that somehow DFO has broke the mold and its using some unseen undiscovered development and marketing techniques, its to such an extreme that I have read people saying that they dont care about making money.
You'd have to think they were using 'blind fanboys' to test it or something! I know, I know, the horror of using people that love the idea and concept of Darkfall to test it. Undiscovered development? You mean, there's something else than coding that makes games magically appear? As for their marketing.. It sucks. Pure and simple. That my friend, is very 'different'. |
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1/06/09 9:11:34 AM#135
Originally posted by VoodooHoodoo
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess. But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims. On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information. And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
If you had followed their cycle of releasing information in the last ~9 months, you'd know that prying information out of them is near on impossible. I understand the concept of proof as well as you do. I fail to see how a 3rd party site could have that infomation without being told. Can you suggest another way as to why they would say that? You missed my point again im not debating that they have said that there would be a press beta in the beginning of january, im debating the fact that downtoearth specifically said that there is a "press beta atm" that information is nowhere and he couldnt possibly know without some kind of proof that obviously doesnt exist. Nothing to back it up apart from a 3rd party website for "proof". Does this mean anything I read on this site about other games being developed is not "proof"? For example, Mortal Online. I see you have a forum dedicated to it. How do I know it's really in alpha testing? See what I'm getting at? You asked for proof. Proof was provided, that didn't meet your stringent concept I guess. Feel free to disbelieve. I understand your point but the analogy doesnt really fit in, downtoearth is not a representative of aventurine so how can he know that the press beta has started? Granted, Tasos said there would be open beta in December. A good point to make. I guess you'd have to consult with him as to why it didn't eventuate. Lastly, I'm not a blind fanboy. I merely check this site out once a week or so, see what's written and reply. I am a healthy skeptic. Doesn't mean I can't hope for the best though, does it. There is nothing wrong with hoping for the best but labeling anyone that does not share the same opinion or questions you does not fit well in an open discussion. You don't need to tell me about reading comprehension. I do well enough, thanks.
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1/06/09 9:14:19 AM#136
Originally posted by xzyax
It's posted on the MMORPG Italia site that early January includes press beta slots and coverage. As to how long before we see any articles? Who knows. You realise DF has been tested for some cosiderable time now, right? Therefore press comes after some extensive testing. The prrof is at the site. As long as you speak Italian. You could try running it through a translator I guess. But good one on the nay saying.
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims. On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information. And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
Actually his statement was it would FINISH in early December. They never gave a time-frame on when it would start.
But, it's been said over and over by downtoearth (nevermind that he's been wrong over and over)... that because they had to push back the Release of the "Feature Complete" and "Ready to Launch" game; that OPEN Beta has been pushed back as well.
With 16 days left until Release day... time will soon run out to come up with more reasons why there is no update. But I am sure that even if we hear nothing from Tasos by the 23rd, there will be a good excuse for it.
I can't speak for downtoearth. I merely wanted to clear up some misconceptions, which you seem to believe don't have enough proof for you. I tried. Whoops! |
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1/06/09 9:17:58 AM#137
Originally posted by VoodooHoodoo
Ironically it's usually these so called 'blind fanboys' that leak most of the stuff on the internet. They are the ones that usually want to show off and prove how good the game is and share it with everyone. Especially to silence their enemy (the so called trolls and haters) and show them they are wrong! I know, I know, the horror a blind fanboy would do such a thing. |
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1/06/09 9:19:21 AM#138
Originally posted by rav3n2
I refer you to the 'blind fanboyism'. So I guess neither of us has open discussion potential. Even after complimenting you on the nay saying. |
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1/06/09 9:22:56 AM#139
at 14 pages, doesn't everyone here think this thread is pointless to post in... i've read every post and find that everyone posting is debating the same argument over and over... read through them all and you'll see everything that has been argued is just repeated realy what's the point |
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1/06/09 9:23:07 AM#140
Originally posted by VoodooHoodoo
I can actually understand and speak italian so that is not a problem, but lets get back on the track i dont think you understand the concept of "proof" really, first off reading comprehension Downtoearth specifically said there is a press beta GOING ON so I ask him for proof of his claims then again what you have told me is that there is a post on a non official website of DFO saying there is a press beta in beginning of january i asked for proof of "there doing a press beta atm." and as I thought neither you are him have anything to backup these claims. On a side note Tasos himself said that their open beta would start beginning of December there was no such thing what makes you think a third-party website is gonna have any credible information when the game director (supreme commander of DFO or whatever he entitles himself to be) is not giving any legitimate information. And to finish this response on your own terms, good one on the blind fanboism.
Actually his statement was it would FINISH in early December. They never gave a time-frame on when it would start.
But, it's been said over and over by downtoearth (nevermind that he's been wrong over and over)... that because they had to push back the Release of the "Feature Complete" and "Ready to Launch" game; that OPEN Beta has been pushed back as well.
With 16 days left until Release day... time will soon run out to come up with more reasons why there is no update. But I am sure that even if we hear nothing from Tasos by the 23rd, there will be a good excuse for it.
I can't speak for downtoearth. I merely wanted to clear up some misconceptions, which you seem to believe don't have enough proof for you. I tried. Whoops!
umm what are they accussing me of now? o yea the game is feature complete but stuff is disabled because there doing q/a process on everything instead just turining everything on and then guessing what bug caused what . plus its a good way to get feedback on gameplay. when they pushed release back all that means is more time for polish. i mean they can accuse me of what ever they want but when there wrong there wrong . i wll admit being wrong about when something is going to happen. because how am i suppose to know whats happening at aventurine. we dont even know the reason for delay. even tho i have a feeling i know why or close to it. it has nothing to do with tasos lieing |
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