This is not a hate thread at all i love some of the ideas in DF and as a long time shadowbane player im exited about this game but the closer we get to the 22t the less the devs are releasing advertising,info,updated website. A few years back some of you might remember a game called Dark and Light big game good ideas great hype but same type of development no info bad website then one month for launch pre orders for downloadable versions came out then game launched only like 50% done few months company vanished and no refunds some even kept getting dinged for monthly after game was gone by click 2 buy i hope this is not the fate of DF but its starting to smell fishy of how such a great game is being kept in the dark SO close to release. cross my fingers and toes this will not happen agian.

Has it ever occured to you that maybe you should do a bit of research before you post a topic like this?
Or do you think you're the only one who has thought about it?

Seriously... read a bit about darkfall before you think it's another Dark and Light

Well Sgl since you didnt read and you brain isnt working i didnt call it andother Dark and light i was more of just saying i HOPE its not there still have time to pull there heads out of where the sun dont shine and you should do the same the game is good ideas and decent graphics but bad bussiness model since conception how many yeas ago now 8?

All I can say is.. I would be VERY surprised if this game was worth playing at all. Gladly surprised that is.

2 weeks 3 days till launch

- no open beta

- has not gone gold yet

- almost no beta leaks to speak of

- most features not exhibited, turned on in beta, or properly tested

- no stress test done yet by players

- no word on what happened to the mid december beta

the odds are stacking up against this game fast.

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Originally posted by miagisan
2 weeks 3 days till launch
- no open beta
- has not gone gold yet
- almost no beta leaks to speak of
- almost no beta leaks to speak of - most features not exhibited, turned on in beta, or properly tested - no stress test done yet by players - no word on what happened to the mid december beta
the odds are stacking up against this game fast.

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Am I the only one that chuckles a bit at the contradictions of statements like these? Not just here, but in a lot of posts....

God...Remember the good ole days when people actually didn't know much about a game until it came out and they played it? When beta actually meant something other than "free time to play the game".

Gamers are such a needy and spoiled bunch of self important children.

Originally posted by Azwar

This is not a hate thread at all i love some of the ideas in DF and as a long time shadowbane player im exited about this game but the closer we get to the 22t the less the devs are releasing advertising,info,updated website. A few years back some of you might remember a game called Dark and Light big game good ideas great hype but same type of development no info bad website then one month for launch pre orders for downloadable versions came out then game launched only like 50% done few months company vanished and no refunds some even kept getting dinged for monthly after game was gone by click 2 buy i hope this is not the fate of DF but its starting to smell fishy of how such a great game is being kept in the dark SO close to release. cross my fingers and toes this will not happen agian.

Dark and Light was launched with less than 10% of its stated content.

But of course these features were going to be turned on soon after.

Hmmm.....features that needed to be turned on.....that turned out to not be there at all.....hmmmm......

Sorry, this post was made in the wrong thread.

I have followed Darkfall for YEARS with a cautious optimism.  I have always wanted the game to work and I have always been disappointed with the failed deadlines.  I love the idea of Darkfall.

I was also a cautiously optimistic follower of Dark and Light.  It offered so much promise during development but the game that launched was a complete joke.

I believe that Darkfall WOULD have been like Dark and Light had they decided to launch it years ago as promised.  The game clearly wasn't ready and I think it's pretty obvious the Darkfall developers knew that and pushed back beta several times. 

However, there are eery similarities between Dark and Light and Darkfall.  If you don't believe me or the OP just go to the Dark and Light forum on this site and read the threads from development.  It's almost a carbon-copy of this forum. 

People were skeptical.  Fanbois hyped up the game (a lot of them have moved from there to here and are doing the same thing), haters hated on the game.  There were excuses from the development team time and time again.  Information was difficult to come by.  There was no true beta. 

Like I said, I have followed Darkfall pretty much from the beginning and I REALLY want it to be a success.  But I would be a fool to dismiss the similiarities between this game and Dark and Light, and so would the rest of you.  I take a cautious approach to Darkfall these days.  I hope but I do not fully trust.

Originally posted by miagisan

2 weeks 3 days till launch

- no open beta

- has not gone gold yet

- almost no beta leaks to speak of

- most features not exhibited, turned on in beta, or properly tested

- no stress test done yet by players

- no word on what happened to the mid december beta

the odds are stacking up against this game fast.

geese maybe yous hould search darkfallleaks on google  man you guys are in for a surprise

the mid december bet agot delayed when the release got delayed geese is that so ahrd ot firgure out

stress test WILL be done during open beta but sof ar even witht hem adding people there bene no stbaility issue only a few bugs that are minor and soem gameplayt weaking needed but  0 stability issues. cant oyu guysa open oyur minds alil and think hey maybe they actully did somethign right unlike this big name mmo companies pshh ><

Originally posted by Thunderous

I have followed Darkfall for YEARS with a cautious optimism.  I have always wanted the game to work and I have always been disappointed with the failed deadlines.  I love the idea of Darkfall.

I was also a cautiously optimistic follower of Dark and Light.  It offered so much promise during development but the game that launched was a complete joke.

I believe that Darkfall WOULD have been like Dark and Light had they decided to launch it years ago as promised.  The game clearly wasn't ready and I think it's pretty obvious the Darkfall developers knew that and pushed back beta several times. 

However, there are eery similarities between Dark and Light and Darkfall.  If you don't believe me or the OP just go to the Dark and Light forum on this site and read the threads from development.  It's almost a carbon-copy of this forum. 

People were skeptical.  Fanbois hyped up the game (a lot of them have moved from there to here and are doing the same thing), haters hated on the game.  There were excuses from the development team time and time again.  Information was difficult to come by.  There was no true beta. 

Like I said, I have followed Darkfall pretty much from the beginning and I REALLY want it to be a success.  But I would be a fool to dismiss the similiarities between this game and Dark and Light, and so would the rest of you.  I take a cautious approach to Darkfall these days.  I hope but I do not fully trust.

 

i didnt bother with dark and light and im not going to bother with mortal online either.

just because im smart XD

Originally posted by downtoearth 

geese maybe yous hould search darkfallleaks on google  man you guys are in for a surprise

Wow, 11 whole posts and 5 screenshots on that website. My cup runneth over!

You know in every single MMO released, even the crap half-completed ones, you'd find at least 1 person saying "well, it works fine for me, no crashes" or "this game looks/works/runs/is great"?

I've no clue what you've done to your spellchecker, but perhaps it's time you be the bigger man and apologize.

Originally posted by Ashrik

Originally posted by downtoearth 

geese maybe yous hould search darkfallleaks on google  man you guys are in for a surprise

Wow, 11 whole posts and 5 screenshots on that website. My cup runneth over!

You know in every single MMO released, even the crap half-completed ones, you'd find at least 1 person saying "well, it works fine for me, no crashes" or "this game looks/works/runs/is great"?

I've no clue what you've done to your spellchecker, but perhaps it's time you be the bigger man and apologize.

except

it works fine for most people only minor issues

if it was really that bad there would be alot mroe leaks.

its actully good even my friend says the same shit about the game. and peole are sayign the same thing in the beta forums but hey you can call him a liar if you want but i dont advise it

when i have a few sources confirming whats being said its got neglects any person that has no idea what there talking about.

and no im not going to sya the game goign ot be the best ever because i ahve a feeling alot of wow players are going to find the game is just to hard for them.

but hopefully alot of them can open there minds alil and grow as ammo players instead of goign back to wow or some shit.

and no i doubt the game is goign to have a 100% perfect launch

Originally posted by ext1

 

Am I the only one that chuckles a bit at the contradictions of statements like these? Not just here, but in a lot of posts....

God...Remember the good ole days when people actually didn't know much about a game until it came out and they played it? When beta actually meant something other than "free time to play the game".

Gamers are such a needy and spoiled bunch of self important children.

I would say many are needy and spoiled, while others are rude and judgmental. I'll leave it up to you to classify yourself in the context of the post above.

If you look back to the "first gen" MMOs (UO, EQ, AC1), they were hyped in trade magazines... and that's it. The Internet was a very different entity back then, and the gaming market was owned by consoles (and a Gameboy...always a Gameboy hehe). Distribution of a 500-800MB client file were FAR less common than they are today. In short - people had not yet been given the opportunity to beta test MMOs before they came out (or, as is more common, "try before they buy").

Move forward almost 10 years, and yes, people do expect more. Why wouldn't they? If almost every MMO released in the last several years has offered these "perks", what does it say about the one that doesn't? Slandering the people that point this out doesn't change this fact.

Here's an analogy for you: Would you defend the "indie" car that was released without Air Conditioning, and then attack someone who pointed out that all other cars have AC? No? I didn't think so.

Oh, so the lack of leaked information is actually a good sign.

You fans are true masters of spin, I'll give you that.

I, too, hope that WoW people can "grow" as MMO players. Unfortunately, this would probably entail not playing a 3d remake of a game released in 1997. 

Originally posted by Azwar

This is not a hate thread at all i love some of the ideas in DF and as a long time shadowbane player im exited about this game but the closer we get to the 22t the less the devs are releasing advertising,info,updated website. A few years back some of you might remember a game called Dark and Light big game good ideas great hype but same type of development no info bad website then one month for launch pre orders for downloadable versions came out then game launched only like 50% done few months company vanished and no refunds some even kept getting dinged for monthly after game was gone by click 2 buy i hope this is not the fate of DF but its starting to smell fishy of how such a great game is being kept in the dark SO close to release. cross my fingers and toes this will not happen agian.

Considering all leaks from beta say the game is stable as a rock, I wouldn't worry too much. If you actually research the Darkfall development cycle, there's a LOT to be confident about. Nothing wrong with being cautious now.

Originally posted by Ashrik

Oh, so the lack of leaked information is actually a good sign.

You fans are true masters of spin, I'll give you that.

I, too, hope that WoW people can "grow" as MMO players. Unfortunately, this would probably entail not playing a 3d remake of a game released in 1997. 

so you just made a new alt acount to troll?

good gawd  keep digging you whole until i can decide whos alt you are.

1 if people didnt care about the game they would LEAK alot.

there is around 1k testers now and 1k  more are being invited this week i expect more leaks after this round of invites

Originally posted by ext1

 

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Originally posted by miagisan
2 weeks 3 days till launch
- no open beta
- has not gone gold yet
- almost no beta leaks to speak of
- almost no beta leaks to speak of - most features not exhibited, turned on in beta, or properly tested - no stress test done yet by players - no word on what happened to the mid december beta
the odds are stacking up against this game fast.

---

 

Am I the only one that chuckles a bit at the contradictions of statements like these? Not just here, but in a lot of posts....

God...Remember the good ole days when people actually didn't know much about a game until it came out and they played it? When beta actually meant something other than "free time to play the game".

Gamers are such a needy and spoiled bunch of self important children.
 

The fact is that these aren't the "good old days" anymore and standards have changed. Open Beta and closed Beta to a lesser degree are used as advertising tools now, and are expected from nearly all releases. Lots of reviews and advertising on the web are the norm for all releses today, how many adverts have you seen for DF on the web? I haven't seen Aventurine advertise thier own product once on this site or anyohter, maybe I just missed it!

He's right 17 days to go and not even a single "Darkfall coming 22nd of Jan" banner, even thier own website isn't updated! Face reality they aren't releasing this month, either that or they just don't want to make money.

Originally posted by Agricola1

Originally posted by ext1

 

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Originally posted by miagisan
2 weeks 3 days till launch
- no open beta
- has not gone gold yet
- almost no beta leaks to speak of
- almost no beta leaks to speak of - most features not exhibited, turned on in beta, or properly tested - no stress test done yet by players - no word on what happened to the mid december beta
the odds are stacking up against this game fast.

---

 

Am I the only one that chuckles a bit at the contradictions of statements like these? Not just here, but in a lot of posts....

God...Remember the good ole days when people actually didn't know much about a game until it came out and they played it? When beta actually meant something other than "free time to play the game".

Gamers are such a needy and spoiled bunch of self important children.
 

 

The fact is that these aren't the "good old days" anymore and standards have changed. Open Beta and closed Beta to a lesser degree are used as advertising tools now, and are expected from nearly all releases. Lots of reviews and advertising on the web are the norm for all releses today, how many adverts have you seen for DF on the web? I haven't seen Aventurine advertise thier own product once on this site or anyohter, maybe I just missed it!

He's right 17 days to go and not even a single "Darkfall coming 22nd of Jan" banner, even thier own website isn't updated! Face reality they aren't releasing this month, either that or they just don't want to make money.

maybe that cant handle a huge launch like other companies that makes since i rather start smaller than most then grow bigger than most.

enough people now about the game to have 3-4 servers full. enough want to play it to fill 2-3 servers. im bettign there goign to need at least 2 servers at launch.

but hey keep being negitive its s going to backfire anyways

 Regarding that, Argicola- I actually don't see what they could hope to gain from advertisements. They've pretty much reached the whole of their potential audience already, as this is a game with nearly zero mass-market appeal (by choice).