Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by OrionMan

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by OrionMan

Well it's another 3 month record on Xfire for a Wednesday (and this is with all EU down for 24 hours). When weekend comes and both EU and US is on with all the returned players AoC is back in the 30's. Not to brag about it, but even the most negative trolls would have to realize that AoC is doing ok then. www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/

#45

 

 

Yep.  AOC is doing much better.  A little perspective

#1   WOW                  = 380,500
#12  EVE                    =   19,800
#17  War                    =    13,500
#21  LotR                   =     9,500
#44  Twelve Sky       =      4,700
#45  AOC                   =      4,600

What the heck is Twelve Sky???

AOC is doing everything right.     Server mergers,  $2 boxes for a free month, and soon they'll have the free month for returning players.   Sounds like as soon as the game goes free, it will be right up there with FlyFF ( # 24)  and maplestory (#32) as the most popular free games on the market

 

For Christ sake, you don't have to be such a intense hater that regardless of what happens, you have to find something negative to say. Relax, activity will probably drop off again at some point and you can turn the trollometer right back to max when that happens. Just a friendly advice bud.

And just to make you feel better, yes there is indeed nothing that can compete with your game (WOW) populationwise. We know that and we also know that WOW probably will be even bigger by next year. However, don't let this get in the way for being happy with players of other MMOs when things are looking a bit up for them. Peace.

 

I promise I'll stop posting the full story, when you stop posting half the story.   The box is basically free now, of course people are going to play it more than when it was $40.  I even put in about 10 hours over the past week.

 

You are only posting half the story. Retail, the box is still $31.99. The people selling it for $2 are generally indie game shops who have to get rid of their stock before taxes are calculated. Does this mean AoC is doing "great" or the same as it was at launch - NO. But what it does mean is that you can't say the game will go F2P just based of the fact that you can pick up a copy for $2.

Amazon.com sells it for $30, and it is currently at like #1500 on their sales chart.   Saying the retail box is $31 is misleading, because nobody is buying it at that price.   Play.com has it for $15, but it takes about 2 mins to find it for less than $2.

like you said.. at this point retailers are just trying to get rid of their stock..... which makes it highly unlikely they are going to be ording more boxes.  Once you are no longer recieving order from retailers, it would really be smart for Funcom to offer the game as a free download, and then try and get subscriptions after the free month.  Which is probably what is coming in the next month.  Free client download with free month for new players, and a free month for returning players and then try and hold on to subscribers.

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by OrionMan

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by OrionMan

Well it's another 3 month record on Xfire for a Wednesday (and this is with all EU down for 24 hours). When weekend comes and both EU and US is on with all the returned players AoC is back in the 30's. Not to brag about it, but even the most negative trolls would have to realize that AoC is doing ok then. www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/

#45

 

 

Yep.  AOC is doing much better.  A little perspective

#1   WOW                  = 380,500
#12  EVE                    =   19,800
#17  War                    =    13,500
#21  LotR                   =     9,500
#44  Twelve Sky       =      4,700
#45  AOC                   =      4,600

What the heck is Twelve Sky???

AOC is doing everything right.     Server mergers,  $2 boxes for a free month, and soon they'll have the free month for returning players.   Sounds like as soon as the game goes free, it will be right up there with FlyFF ( # 24)  and maplestory (#32) as the most popular free games on the market

 

For Christ sake, you don't have to be such a intense hater that regardless of what happens, you have to find something negative to say. Relax, activity will probably drop off again at some point and you can turn the trollometer right back to max when that happens. Just a friendly advice bud.

And just to make you feel better, yes there is indeed nothing that can compete with your game (WOW) populationwise. We know that and we also know that WOW probably will be even bigger by next year. However, don't let this get in the way for being happy with players of other MMOs when things are looking a bit up for them. Peace.

 

I promise I'll stop posting the full story, when you stop posting half the story.   The box is basically free now, of course people are going to play it more than when it was $40.  I even put in about 10 hours over the past week.

 

You are only posting half the story. Retail, the box is still $31.99. The people selling it for $2 are generally indie game shops who have to get rid of their stock before taxes are calculated. Does this mean AoC is doing "great" or the same as it was at launch - NO. But what it does mean is that you can't say the game will go F2P just based of the fact that you can pick up a copy for $2.

 

Amazon.com sells it for $30, and it is currently at like #1500 on their sales chart.   Saying the retail box is $31 is misleading, because nobody is buying it at that price.   Play.com has it for $15, but it takes about 2 mins to find it for less than $2.

like you said.. at this point retailers are just trying to get rid of their stock..... which makes it highly unlikely they are going to be ording more boxes.  Once you are no longer recieving order from retailers, it would really be smart for Funcom to offer the game as a free download, and then try and get subscriptions after the free month.  Which is probably what is coming in the next month.  Free client download with free month for new players, and a free month for returning players and then try and hold on to subscribers.

I am still looking for your point. lol

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by OrionMan

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by OrionMan

Well it's another 3 month record on Xfire for a Wednesday (and this is with all EU down for 24 hours). When weekend comes and both EU and US is on with all the returned players AoC is back in the 30's. Not to brag about it, but even the most negative trolls would have to realize that AoC is doing ok then. www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/

#45

 

 

Yep.  AOC is doing much better.  A little perspective

#1   WOW                  = 380,500
#12  EVE                    =   19,800
#17  War                    =    13,500
#21  LotR                   =     9,500
#44  Twelve Sky       =      4,700
#45  AOC                   =      4,600

What the heck is Twelve Sky???

AOC is doing everything right.     Server mergers,  $2 boxes for a free month, and soon they'll have the free month for returning players.   Sounds like as soon as the game goes free, it will be right up there with FlyFF ( # 24)  and maplestory (#32) as the most popular free games on the market

 

For Christ sake, you don't have to be such a intense hater that regardless of what happens, you have to find something negative to say. Relax, activity will probably drop off again at some point and you can turn the trollometer right back to max when that happens. Just a friendly advice bud.

And just to make you feel better, yes there is indeed nothing that can compete with your game (WOW) populationwise. We know that and we also know that WOW probably will be even bigger by next year. However, don't let this get in the way for being happy with players of other MMOs when things are looking a bit up for them. Peace.

 

I promise I'll stop posting the full story, when you stop posting half the story.   The box is basically free now, of course people are going to play it more than when it was $40.  I even put in about 10 hours over the past week.

 

You are only posting half the story. Retail, the box is still $31.99. The people selling it for $2 are generally indie game shops who have to get rid of their stock before taxes are calculated. Does this mean AoC is doing "great" or the same as it was at launch - NO. But what it does mean is that you can't say the game will go F2P just based of the fact that you can pick up a copy for $2.

 

Amazon.com sells it for $30, and it is currently at like #1500 on their sales chart.   Saying the retail box is $31 is misleading, because nobody is buying it at that price.   Play.com has it for $15, but it takes about 2 mins to find it for less than $2.

like you said.. at this point retailers are just trying to get rid of their stock..... which makes it highly unlikely they are going to be ording more boxes.  Once you are no longer recieving order from retailers, it would really be smart for Funcom to offer the game as a free download, and then try and get subscriptions after the free month.  Which is probably what is coming in the next month.  Free client download with free month for new players, and a free month for returning players and then try and hold on to subscribers.

...and so what ?

Like it or not, AoC will survive,people will continue to play whatever some &^*% may think or not.If you can`t understand and accept that then you really need some help.

I swear my head is going to explode. Pla the game or don t, simple really. Amazed at how many people have so much time to number crunch etc, for a game they don t even like. Man i m glad i m not that sad.

Interesting to see 645 US players on Xfire yesterday. The day before it was >800 players for EU. All together it will make Xfire player numbers about 1400 for this weekend. Would not be surprised if we see AoC up there on #39 or # 40 by end of the weekend.

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Originally posted by OrionMan
Interesting to see 645 US players on Xfire yesterday. The day before it was >800 players for EU. All together it will make Xfire player numbers about 1400 for this weekend. Would not be surprised if we see AoC up there on #39 or # 40 by end of the weekend.

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And thats a victory? Start posting when it hits in the teens.

Originally posted by Hamrtime2

 

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Originally posted by OrionMan
Interesting to see 645 US players on Xfire yesterday. The day before it was >800 players for EU. All together it will make Xfire player numbers about 1400 for this weekend. Would not be surprised if we see AoC up there on #39 or # 40 by end of the weekend.

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And thats a victory? Start posting when it hits in the teens.

Hey, come on..  Let AOC fans have their victories where they get them.   If they want to think of having 1/4 the population as LotRO as an acheivement, don't ruin their fun.

But to be honest..  AOC is starting to cheat like they did with that 'vote' a few weeks ago.  This is a post from the AOC forum about Xfire

"Installed it for one purpose only, to try and bump AoC up on the Xfire ranking"

Pretty soon Famine will be making a post and some player will give a link to where you can download xfire.

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by Hamrtime2

 

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Originally posted by OrionMan
Interesting to see 645 US players on Xfire yesterday. The day before it was >800 players for EU. All together it will make Xfire player numbers about 1400 for this weekend. Would not be surprised if we see AoC up there on #39 or # 40 by end of the weekend.

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And thats a victory? Start posting when it hits in the teens.

 

Hey, come on..  Let AOC fans have their victories where they get them.   If they want to think of having 1/4 the population as LotRO as an acheivement, don't ruin their fun.

But to be honest..  AOC is starting to cheat like they did with that 'vote' a few weeks ago.  This is a post from the AOC forum about Xfire

"Installed it for one purpose only, to try and bump AoC up on the Xfire ranking"

Pretty soon Famine will be making a post and some player will give a link to where you can download xfire.

Majority of Polled EU players do not use XFIRE

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106748

Do you use Xfire when playing AOC ?
Yes. 15.61%
No.  59.07%
What the hell is Xfire ?  25.32%
 

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by Hamrtime2

 

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Originally posted by OrionMan
Interesting to see 645 US players on Xfire yesterday. The day before it was >800 players for EU. All together it will make Xfire player numbers about 1400 for this weekend. Would not be surprised if we see AoC up there on #39 or # 40 by end of the weekend.

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And thats a victory? Start posting when it hits in the teens.

 

Hey, come on..  Let AOC fans have their victories where they get them.   If they want to think of having 1/4 the population as LotRO as an acheivement, don't ruin their fun.

But to be honest..  AOC is starting to cheat like they did with that 'vote' a few weeks ago.  This is a post from the AOC forum about Xfire

"Installed it for one purpose only, to try and bump AoC up on the Xfire ranking"

Pretty soon Famine will be making a post and some player will give a link to where you can download xfire.

Say the person that explained us in November how FC will be bankrupt by Christmas or January.

But there is one problem. Funcom estimated that 150K subs was needed just to be in balance budgetwise. And considering they have a large debt if they don't make money of AoC it puts the future of Funcom at risk, as their financial report specified that future Funcom profits depended on AoC subscriptions. Funcom also said that should AoC have 100K subs it would be deemed a failed project.

Originally posted by Battlekruse

But there is one problem. Funcom estimated that 150K subs was needed just to be in balance budgetwise. And considering they have a large debt if they don't make money of AoC it puts the future of Funcom at risk, as their financial report specified that future Funcom profits depended on AoC subscriptions. Funcom also said that should AoC have 100K subs it would be deemed a failed project.

The population is going up slowly since they announced server merges, but the game is STILL void of content at high level.

I think the same people who left because of that are quickly going to get bored again and head back to WoW/WAR.   Making the population to thin again and putting them back where they started.

I think this is a last ditch by Funcom :/

#45

and gameing is up 16% (5513/4758) since last friday, also number of players are up with like 14% (1279/1120). Very fun to see that many players getting back into the game. Also, was playing on fresh start server yesterday and population is picking very nicely up.

Looking on these numbers I would expect close to or over 7000 gaming hours and over 1300 Xplayers tomorrow. That will make AoC #39 on that damn Xfire list.

Originally posted by OrionMan

#45

and gameing is up 16% (5513/4758) since last friday, also number of players are up with like 14% (1279/1120). Very fun to see that many players getting back into the game. Also, was playing on fresh start server yesterday and population is picking very nicely up.

Looking on these numbers I would expect close to or over 7000 gaming hours and over 1300 Xplayers tomorrow. That will make AoC #39 on that damn Xfire list.

I'm really happy for you! Enjoy it!

Originally posted by NasherUK

 

The population is going up slowly since they announced server merges, but the game is STILL void of content at high level.

I think the same people who left because of that are quickly going to get bored again and head back to WoW/WAR.   Making the population to thin again and putting them back where they started.

I think this is a last ditch by Funcom :/

The game is not void of high level contant as you both have several end game group instances and several raid dungeons, in addition to the epic instances of normal zones. Thats not void. In addition, the new lvl 80 solo and lvl 80 group dungeon was opened on testlive this weekend, so in a couple of weeks there will be even more.

Originally posted by finnishguy

Am I the only one that finds it funny when this happens:

1. AoC is 4# on Xfire
2. Fanbois are very happy and say AoC is a "WoW-killer"
3. 90% of player quit and AoC drops DOWN to #54
4. Fanbois say Xfire doesn't mean anything
5. During holidays AoC goes UP a little bit on Xfire
6. Fanbois start a thread about AoC population increasing
7. AoC drops DOWN again, this time even lower than before
8. Fanbois say Xfire doesn't mean anything
etc.

Yep. That pretty much sums it up.

And of course, as of this thread...

An increase of 2 spots = "trend showing subs are increasing"

A decrease of those same 2 spots = "standard deviation"

Classic double-standard OrionMan logic, right in line with how he denounced XFire as a legitimate way to gauge the game's popularity when the numbers don't look good for AoC. He then does a complete 180 and touts them as proof of the game doing better when they go up a bit.

The hypocrisy and obnoxiously blatant display of intellectual dishonesty around this game some of its fans (not all) has always been noteworthy.

I see some of the usual suspects are still at it.

For what it is worth the XFire hours are 400 more between last Saturday and this one.

Could be the server merges, and people taking another look see

Could be the low new low price, hey for less than 10 bucks US cant be beat

Could be the XFire threads on the forums and fanbois starting to use it to artificialy bum the numbers

Most likly all the above

Whatever the reason at least the trend is upward not downward. What I keep asking myselfr though, is the game interesting enough to retain those customers for several months? For me it isn't. Not that I think there is anything terrible wrong with the game, just for me there was not enough to do and all my gaming buddies are busy playing another game that also happens to be very very good and offers me more for my time.

Originally posted by Jackdog

For what it is worth the XFire hours are 400 more between last Saturday and this one.

Could be the server merges, and people taking another look see

Could be the low new low price, hey for less than 10 bucks US cant be beat

Could be the XFire threads on the forums and fanbois starting to use it to artificialy bum the numbers

Most likly all the above

Whatever the reason at least the trend is upward not downward. What I keep asking myselfr though, is the game interesting enough to retain those customers for several months? For me it isn't. Not that I think there is anything terrible wrong with the game, just for me there was not enough to do and all my gaming buddies are busy playing another game that also happens to be very very good and offers me more for my time.

Except that the trend is now DOWNWARD.

AOC FALLS TO #50    LOSES 5 SPOTS IN ONE DAY

Jackdog.. you forgot one other option.    Xfire fell drastically on Saturday because Funcom wasn't in the office running xfire on all it's machines  :)   JK... but yeah, I agree it is a combination of all the things you said.  Add in that warhammer is hitting some rough spots so with the server mergers and nearly free 30 days, there are probably a lot of people checking out aoc.

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by Jackdog

For what it is worth the XFire hours are 400 more between last Saturday and this one.

Could be the server merges, and people taking another look see

Could be the low new low price, hey for less than 10 bucks US cant be beat

Could be the XFire threads on the forums and fanbois starting to use it to artificialy bum the numbers

Most likly all the above

Whatever the reason at least the trend is upward not downward. What I keep asking myselfr though, is the game interesting enough to retain those customers for several months? For me it isn't. Not that I think there is anything terrible wrong with the game, just for me there was not enough to do and all my gaming buddies are busy playing another game that also happens to be very very good and offers me more for my time.

 

Except that the trend is now DOWNWARD.

AOC FALLS TO #50    LOSES 5 SPOTS IN ONE DAY

Jackdog.. you forgot one other option.    Xfire fell drastically on Saturday because Funcom wasn't in the office running xfire on all it's machines  :)   JK... but yeah, I agree it is a combination of all the things you said.  Add in that warhammer is hitting some rough spots so with the server mergers and nearly free 30 days, there are probably a lot of people checking out aoc.

hours played between last Saturday and this Saturday are up by 400 hours.  Question is where will it be in March? Could be back down in the 2- 3K range or maybe up into the 7 to 8K range.

Time will tell.

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by Jackdog

For what it is worth the XFire hours are 400 more between last Saturday and this one.

Could be the server merges, and people taking another look see

Could be the low new low price, hey for less than 10 bucks US cant be beat

Could be the XFire threads on the forums and fanbois starting to use it to artificialy bum the numbers

Most likly all the above

Whatever the reason at least the trend is upward not downward. What I keep asking myselfr though, is the game interesting enough to retain those customers for several months? For me it isn't. Not that I think there is anything terrible wrong with the game, just for me there was not enough to do and all my gaming buddies are busy playing another game that also happens to be very very good and offers me more for my time.

 

Except that the trend is now DOWNWARD.

AOC FALLS TO #50    LOSES 5 SPOTS IN ONE DAY

Jackdog.. you forgot one other option.    Xfire fell drastically on Saturday because Funcom wasn't in the office running xfire on all it's machines  :)   JK... but yeah, I agree it is a combination of all the things you said.  Add in that warhammer is hitting some rough spots so with the server mergers and nearly free 30 days, there are probably a lot of people checking out aoc.

hours played between last Saturday and this Saturday are up by 400 hours.  Question is where will it be in March? Could be back down in the 2- 3K range or maybe up into the 7 to 8K range.

Time will tell.

lol. AoC has more than 6100 Xfire gaming hours, something the game have not had since end October or Beginning of November. I fail to see how this somehow is bad news. Also the no. of Xfire players are +9% compared to last Saturday. Very good news.

And another thing that I just became aware of. These numbers are with some downtime on the EU servers. Will probably see that on todays numbers also.

Originally posted by OrionMan

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by Jackdog

For what it is worth the XFire hours are 400 more between last Saturday and this one.

Could be the server merges, and people taking another look see

Could be the low new low price, hey for less than 10 bucks US cant be beat

Could be the XFire threads on the forums and fanbois starting to use it to artificialy bum the numbers

Most likly all the above

Whatever the reason at least the trend is upward not downward. What I keep asking myselfr though, is the game interesting enough to retain those customers for several months? For me it isn't. Not that I think there is anything terrible wrong with the game, just for me there was not enough to do and all my gaming buddies are busy playing another game that also happens to be very very good and offers me more for my time.

 

Except that the trend is now DOWNWARD.

AOC FALLS TO #50    LOSES 5 SPOTS IN ONE DAY

Jackdog.. you forgot one other option.    Xfire fell drastically on Saturday because Funcom wasn't in the office running xfire on all it's machines  :)   JK... but yeah, I agree it is a combination of all the things you said.  Add in that warhammer is hitting some rough spots so with the server mergers and nearly free 30 days, there are probably a lot of people checking out aoc.

hours played between last Saturday and this Saturday are up by 400 hours.  Question is where will it be in March? Could be back down in the 2- 3K range or maybe up into the 7 to 8K range.

Time will tell.

 

lol. AoC has more than 6100 Xfire gaming hours, something the game have not had since end October or Beginning of November. I fail to see how this somehow is bad news. Also the no. of Xfire players are +9% compared to last Saturday. Very good news.

And another thing that I just became aware of. These numbers are with some downtime on the EU servers. Will probably see that on todays numbers also.

look at it this way if the numbers were not up coming off the holiday season and  the game selling for £4.50 game cards at  £17.99, and the major merge of servers  they might as well shut down the servers. The next few months will determine whether the game is a Eve and recover and maintain a decent  population or a Vanguard and continue a slow spiral to obscurity.