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Originally posted by Zarraa I don't buy the world ending in 2012 either.. Early in my life my beliefs were based only on tangible scientific evidence so I can understand your sceptisism. However there are things that have happened to me personally that chance nor any law of averages can explain. So for those reasons I've brushed sceptisism aside and believe in GOD, higher power or whatever you call Him/Her.. However I don't think He/She has any interest in Football games, Music award shows or Polkas. I am curious of this growing distain for the bible though, why does it anger people so? Perhaps it's the belief that no beneviliant being would allow things to happen that we see on a daily basis? I also see discrepensies and contradictions throughout the book itself take the story of Christmas and the wise men for example. It is for these reason I view the Bible as a roadmap rather than word law. Most things deciphered by man or our so called intelectuals usually have their slant or taint to it. Therefore I see God along spiritual lines rather than any one religion.
lol the bible doest anger me, lol, and as i stated earlier i dont beleive in the whole world ending in 2012 thing, and if 'god' is real, and is such a loving god, why would he create something he loved to run the chance of 'hell'? thats always puzzled me, and if everything is already apart of some so called 'plan' why is 'prayer' worth it when it cant change something that is already 'planned' out. "Emotion, yet peace. |
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1/02/09 2:59:54 AM#102
Originally posted by Knived11
Blah! Normally hate to talk politics in gaming but since you all seem determined to bring it up lets just not forget what a wonderfull job the Republicans have done over the last 8 years getting America from a having a budget surplus to its current high unemployment debt ridden recession, with a unwinable war costing billions monthly and thousands in American soldiers lives so far, all fought for the false pretenses of WMD's. Yes the world will come to a end someday. (maybe 2012) just too many people living make believe lives in imaginary worlds to actually see or care whats going on in this real one it seems. |
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1/02/09 3:06:02 AM#103
Originally posted by Knived11 I don't buy the world ending in 2012 either.. Early in my life my beliefs were based only on tangible scientific evidence so I can understand your sceptisism. However there are things that have happened to me personally that chance nor any law of averages can explain. So for those reasons I've brushed sceptisism aside and believe in GOD, higher power or whatever you call Him/Her.. However I don't think He/She has any interest in Football games, Music award shows or Polkas. I am curious of this growing distain for the bible though, why does it anger people so? Perhaps it's the belief that no beneviliant being would allow things to happen that we see on a daily basis? I also see discrepensies and contradictions throughout the book itself take the story of Christmas and the wise men for example. It is for these reason I view the Bible as a roadmap rather than word law. Most things deciphered by man or our so called intelectuals usually have their slant or taint to it. Therefore I see God along spiritual lines rather than any one religion.
lol the bible doest anger me, lol, and as i stated earlier i dont beleive in the whole world ending in 2012 thing, and if 'god' is real, and is such a loving god, why would he create something he loved to run the chance of 'hell'? thats always puzzled me, and if everything is already apart of some so called 'plan' why is 'prayer' worth it when it cant change something that is already 'planned' out. Knived keep in mind that religion was a bit different and it's conotation and changed it's progressive image just before the ensuing of the darkages... before the darkages that word was associated with a searching for answers to questions and gaining understanding to give meaning to life, and of how man fits in to the universe; it was more about a searching for a divine truth (what happend to that, ... sectarianism changed it... religion gave birth to philosphy, astrology, alchemy etc... and eventually, indirectly through social/human evolution into scientific thought...) so things became more sectarian, things, more specialized and seperate, as our understand of our world/nature/knowledge grew... and as did religion grew, and in a sense it's meaning changed. During the dark ages it evolved into a more dogmatic format, but that is not due to it's own fault but was changed primarily due to geopolitical power struggles... the church itself was the true super power back then, and hence religion changed to suit it's need to control all the countries, and control the thoughts and ideas of that time, and set the socially acceptable standards and traditions of its time. This shouldn't be viewes as anything negative but more of a historically evolutionary social process of all thoughts and ideas during those times. This is of course very old history as religion today has grown out of that hostile age... it seems that a "unifying" theory is helping to bring to gether religion and science are our understanding of the universe, there are more and more theories being born towards this unifying understanding that all is connected somehow and in some way, and that it seem mysterious until further veils are lifted in that understanding. So many theories have sprung up in our century alone that reflect this human unconcious moment such as Cybernetics, on "self-organization" and "Unified field theory" as various countless others... what does it all mean? We as a human whole actually be on a verge of a new golden age? Great idea for an MMO right guys? :P |
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1/02/09 3:49:31 AM#104
Originally posted by Zarraa
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Originally posted by hidden1
lol the bible doest anger me, lol, and as i stated earlier i dont beleive in the whole world ending in 2012 thing, and if 'god' is real, and is such a loving god, why would he create something he loved to run the chance of 'hell'? thats always puzzled me, and if everything is already apart of some so called 'plan' why is 'prayer' worth it when it cant change something that is already 'planned' out. Knived keep in mind that religion was a bit different and it's conotation and changed it's progressive image just before the ensuing of the darkages... before the darkages that word was associated with a searching for answers to questions and gaining understanding to give meaning to life, and of how man fits in to the universe; it was more about a searching for a divine truth (what happend to that, ... sectarianism changed it... religion gave birth to philosphy, astrology, alchemy etc... and eventually, indirectly through social/human evolution into scientific thought...) so things became more sectarian, things, more specialized and seperate, as our understand of our world/nature/knowledge grew... and as did religion grew, and in a sense it's meaning changed. During the dark ages it evolved into a more dogmatic format, but that is not due to it's own fault but was changed primarily due to geopolitical power struggles... the church itself was the true super power back then, and hence religion changed to suit it's need to control all the countries, and control the thoughts and ideas of that time, and set the socially acceptable standards and traditions of its time. This shouldn't be viewes as anything negative but more of a historically evolutionary social process of all thoughts and ideas during those times. This is of course very old history as religion today has grown out of that hostile age... it seems that a "unifying" theory is helping to bring to gether religion and science are our understanding of the universe, there are more and more theories being born towards this unifying understanding that all is connected somehow and in some way, and that it seem mysterious until further veils are lifted in that understanding. So many theories have sprung up in our century alone that reflect this human unconcious moment such as Cybernetics, on "self-organization" and "Unified field theory" as various countless others... what does it all mean? We as a human whole actually be on a verge of a new golden age? Great idea for an MMO right guys? :P
wuld make a good mmo im too tired for any discusion thouhg "Emotion, yet peace. |
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1/02/09 5:22:41 AM#106
Originally posted by Knived11
lol the bible doest anger me, lol, and as i stated earlier i dont beleive in the whole world ending in 2012 thing, and if 'god' is real, and is such a loving god, why would he create something he loved to run the chance of 'hell'? thats always puzzled me, and if everything is already apart of some so called 'plan' why is 'prayer' worth it when it cant change something that is already 'planned' out. Knived keep in mind that religion was a bit different and it's conotation and changed it's progressive image just before the ensuing of the darkages... before the darkages that word was associated with a searching for answers to questions and gaining understanding to give meaning to life, and of how man fits in to the universe; it was more about a searching for a divine truth (what happend to that, ... sectarianism changed it... religion gave birth to philosphy, astrology, alchemy etc... and eventually, indirectly through social/human evolution into scientific thought...) so things became more sectarian, things, more specialized and seperate, as our understand of our world/nature/knowledge grew... and as did religion grew, and in a sense it's meaning changed. During the dark ages it evolved into a more dogmatic format, but that is not due to it's own fault but was changed primarily due to geopolitical power struggles... the church itself was the true super power back then, and hence religion changed to suit it's need to control all the countries, and control the thoughts and ideas of that time, and set the socially acceptable standards and traditions of its time. This shouldn't be viewes as anything negative but more of a historically evolutionary social process of all thoughts and ideas during those times. This is of course very old history as religion today has grown out of that hostile age... it seems that a "unifying" theory is helping to bring to gether religion and science are our understanding of the universe, there are more and more theories being born towards this unifying understanding that all is connected somehow and in some way, and that it seem mysterious until further veils are lifted in that understanding. So many theories have sprung up in our century alone that reflect this human unconcious moment such as Cybernetics, on "self-organization" and "Unified field theory" as various countless others... what does it all mean? We as a human whole actually be on a verge of a new golden age? Great idea for an MMO right guys? :P
wuld make a good mmo im too tired for any discusion though. Wow, I've read allot of peoples opines about the world ending, and blah, blah blah. TO be honest with you, this is a waste of time and energy written about when the wold is suppose to end. When its suppose to happen, and when it isn't. It makes me sick, that people are more worried about when the world is ending then. Helping other people in different countries to fight of diseases, cancers, starvations, Building Shelters, hospitols, school etc. DO u get my point. American people don't care about other countries, but themselves. Its sad to say, but some don't give a damn, that your daughter is dieing from a illness, that's not curable, or your son has lyceums. They wouldn't care unless they were going through it with their families. Its sad, that most American wont even give money to help a charity in there hometown. It pisses me off, that We the people of the united states IN ORDER TO FORUM A MORE PREFECT Union.
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JustTalking
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Joined: 12/18/08
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1/02/09 5:44:18 AM#107
Feh, let it end...i'm fully prepared.........I know where my towel is. Doomsayers are a dime a dozen and people have this annoying knack of seeing what they want to see and/or misinterpret information so it will fit, nice and neat, into a illogical mold they've chosen to make. Sir Issac Newton predicted the end of the world as well, the year 2060...but this is also the man convinced that lead could be turned into gold. http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1393 The person that has been stirring this pot lately is a man named Ronald Weinland the author of God's final witness:2008, who has predicted the fall of the U.S. in 2009 (yet he couldn't predict who would win the presidency)...most would say 'Ok' to this except Mr. Weinland also predicted U.S. currency to be useless by "A little after April" 2008. Mr. Weinland is a film-flam artist who twists scripture to sell a book...that's it. http://ronaldweinland.com/?page_id=7
As for the Mayan civilization, they made one hell of a long calendar that is supposed to end in 2012...note i said "supposed to" as this too has been debated. http://www.greatdreams.com/2012.htm
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HellsMajesty
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1/02/09 5:47:27 AM#108
The world won't end as such. Hell will jus become over populated and the dead will walk the earth can anyone say zombies? :P  |
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1/02/09 7:26:53 AM#109
Originally posted by MrBubbles Knived keep in mind that religion was a bit different and it's conotation and changed it's progressive image just before the ensuing of the darkages... before the darkages that word was associated with a searching for answers to questions and gaining understanding to give meaning to life, and of how man fits in to the universe; it was more about a searching for a divine truth (what happend to that, ... sectarianism changed it... religion gave birth to philosphy, astrology, alchemy etc... and eventually, indirectly through social/human evolution into scientific thought...) so things became more sectarian, things, more specialized and seperate, as our understand of our world/nature/knowledge grew... and as did religion grew, and in a sense it's meaning changed. During the dark ages it evolved into a more dogmatic format, but that is not due to it's own fault but was changed primarily due to geopolitical power struggles... the church itself was the true super power back then, and hence religion changed to suit it's need to control all the countries, and control the thoughts and ideas of that time, and set the socially acceptable standards and traditions of its time. This shouldn't be viewes as anything negative but more of a historically evolutionary social process of all thoughts and ideas during those times. This is of course very old history as religion today has grown out of that hostile age... it seems that a "unifying" theory is helping to bring to gether religion and science are our understanding of the universe, there are more and more theories being born towards this unifying understanding that all is connected somehow and in some way, and that it seem mysterious until further veils are lifted in that understanding. So many theories have sprung up in our century alone that reflect this human unconcious moment such as Cybernetics, on "self-organization" and "Unified field theory" as various countless others... what does it all mean? We as a human whole actually be on a verge of a new golden age? Great idea for an MMO right guys? :P
wuld make a good mmo im too tired for any discusion though. Wow, I've read allot of peoples opines about the world ending, and blah, blah blah. TO be honest with you, this is a waste of time and energy written about when the wold is suppose to end. When its suppose to happen, and when it isn't. It makes me sick, that people are more worried about when the world is ending then. Helping other people in different countries to fight of diseases, cancers, starvations, Building Shelters, hospitols, school etc. DO u get my point. American people don't care about other countries, but themselves. Its sad to say, but some don't give a damn, that your daughter is dieing from a illness, that's not curable, or your son has lyceums. They wouldn't care unless they were going through it with their families. Its sad, that most American wont even give money to help a charity in there hometown. It pisses me off, that We the people of the united states IN ORDER TO FORUM A MORE PREFECT Union.
Sincerly ~Mr.Bubbles Yeah yeah we hear this all the time, USA is shit. Yet when one of your countries want help who is the first you look to. I say USA should just turn their back on the rest of the world (stop sending support and cash) and see how you guys do on your own. Global warming is a joke...has nothing to do with people....just the natural way of the earth to clean it self. |
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1/02/09 7:31:19 AM#110
Originally posted by Brenics thank you. it has more to do with the sun than anything we could ever do.
I'll just say this, probably been said already. 2012 marks the end of an 'age' not the world. Any fear being spread about this date is intentional so you'd be better off not worrying about it. |
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1/02/09 7:35:44 AM#111
My Prediction: After the world does not end in 2012 the End of the Worlders will pick a new date, just like they did after Y2K.
Remember Y2K?
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1/02/09 7:39:47 AM#112
Originally posted by Ihmotepp I died in Y2K so speak for yourself!!
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Reklaw
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1/02/09 7:50:17 AM#113
So which MMORPG are we talking about in this topic couldn't really find anything other then a intresting discussion that should belong in the OFFTOPIC section of this website. SORRY ------------------------------------------------------------ |
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1/02/09 8:09:06 AM#114
Originally posted by aleos Zomgwtfbbq you can't be serious but teh global warmingz will KILL DA POLAR BEEARZ zomg we as humans are so evil we're killing our planets LET'S ALL USE DIFFERENT LITEBULBS and let teh environmentalists tell us what R gud and what R bad!!11oneoneone "If you warn me about the dangers of global warming one more time, I'll make a carbon footprint on your ass." At least most of us agree global warming is overstated and really a bunch of BS, like most hype for these MMOs. |
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1/02/09 8:38:26 AM#115
It is all occult rubbish, All of this reminds me of the heavens gate church, where they cut off there penisis and drank cyanide and waited for the mother ship top take them away before the end came. As for that wikki link it sais Nostru's writtings were very vague and never have been able to be held credibly to any event but also could be held to any event, makeing it so vague that it can be applied to anything, which is the way most cults and the such work. playing eq2 and two worlds |
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xusheng2
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Joined: 12/20/08
In mmorpgs anyone not as good as you is a noob and anyone better than you has no life. |
1/02/09 9:16:03 AM#116
I think the world end, if people will not change and stop pollution. Playing: WoW and Guild wars faction. |
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1/02/09 9:59:39 AM#117
Originally posted by SinzOfMan I died in Y2K so speak for yourself!!
I always knew it was mostly zombies that post on MMORPG.com.
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1/02/09 10:03:23 AM#118
Originally posted by xusheng2 Enter Smog Monster? |
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1/02/09 10:10:26 AM#119
Actually Nostradamus predicted many things past 2012. The Mayans did as well. All they predict is a new age brought on by some castrophic event. I'd like to see it. |
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1/02/09 10:12:46 AM#120
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