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DrChicken
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Joined: 5/26/05
John Romero is about to make you his bitch... Suck it down. |
1/03/09 3:38:14 PM#21
Originally posted by Abrahmm
Smedley is still running the show. I don't need to say anything else really. If you enjoy being beaten and lied to, and paying for it on top of that, well then just go right ahead and hand Mr. Smedley your money. I'll take my business elsewhere, thanks for your concern though.
I'll leave you to your designs, then. This discussion is not very productive, especially when you, for some odd reason, believe that Smedley gets a bonus that is equivalent to how many people he "cons" with his games. Hell, the guy is just doing his job - how the %$!@ do you equate that with someone who is actively trying to take your money? Does SOE just hand over 100% of its profits to Smedley for a job well done? I don't think so. Christ, I think it is time to get a life.  |
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1/03/09 4:16:03 PM#22
Yes, yes exactly. For others saying this isn't the case, it does not matter if you have not personally been burned by Sony. I didn't like SWG from the very beginning, but that isn't the point. They are the epitome of a massive and corrupt organization. They really do not care how happy the players are. It is about money to them. As long as there are enough players to make the gold keep piling up, they are, as far as they are concerned, doing a bang up job. Like you say, they are more than willing to look for a new audience and give up the old if they believe they can squeeze a few more subscriptions or a few more dollars out of them. They are bad people, and they make bad games. Be wary. "There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit." — John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman |
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1/03/09 5:49:51 PM#23
Originally posted by DrChicken
Smedley is still running the show. I don't need to say anything else really. If you enjoy being beaten and lied to, and paying for it on top of that, well then just go right ahead and hand Mr. Smedley your money. I'll take my business elsewhere, thanks for your concern though.
I'll leave you to your designs, then. This discussion is not very productive, especially when you, for some odd reason, believe that Smedley gets a bonus that is equivalent to how many people he "cons" with his games. Hell, the guy is just doing his job - how the %$!@ do you equate that with someone who is actively trying to take your money? Does SOE just hand over 100% of its profits to Smedley for a job well done? I don't think so. Christ, I think it is time to get a life. You aren't the brightest are you? You see, you are taking my comment "just go right ahead and hand Mr. Smedley your money" literally, while anyone that has common sense knows that you don't actually give your money to John Smedley, and you don't hand your money across the internet. It was a figure of speech, as in saying, "as long and Smedley is running the company, I won't pay them any money, because you never know when you are going to get bent over". Smedley is doing his job, and he is doing it very poorly. What used to a dominant force in the MMO market is now a place where games go to die. SOE used to have way more subscribers, with a lot fewer games, than they do now. So what does good ol' Johnny do when he is losing subs left and right and needs to make more money? I can tell you what he doesn't do, he doesn't improve the quality/content of his products. No, he introduces complete scams, in the form of trading card games and microtransactions(after he said he wouldn't) in order to squeeze a bit more money out of his customer base without actually making a better product. No no, you are right, they are a great company, Smedley is a great leader, and they have great games, and never screw anyone over. We should all play SOE games. But I think you should get a life, as you are sitting here arguing with someone about their choice to not buy a product from a certain company.
Sad and funny webpage on someones sig that you could read about SOE's lies. Enjoy Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic |
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DrChicken
Novice Member
Joined: 5/26/05
John Romero is about to make you his bitch... Suck it down. |
1/03/09 6:00:04 PM#24
Originally posted by Abrahmm
I'll leave you to your designs, then. This discussion is not very productive, especially when you, for some odd reason, believe that Smedley gets a bonus that is equivalent to how many people he "cons" with his games. Hell, the guy is just doing his job - how the %$!@ do you equate that with someone who is actively trying to take your money? Does SOE just hand over 100% of its profits to Smedley for a job well done? I don't think so. Christ, I think it is time to get a life. You aren't the brightest are you? You see, you are taking my comment "just go right ahead and hand Mr. Smedley your money" literally, while anyone that has common sense knows that you don't actually give your money to John Smedley, and you don't hand your money across the internet. It was a figure of speech, as in saying, "as long and Smedley is running the company, I won't pay them any money, because you never know when you are going to get bent over". Smedley is doing his job, and he is doing it very poorly. What used to a dominant force in the MMO market is now a place where games go to die. SOE used to have way more subscribers, with a lot fewer games, than they do now. So what does good ol' Johnny do when he is losing subs left and right and needs to make more money? I can tell you what he doesn't do, he doesn't improve the quality/content of his products. No, he introduces complete scams, in the form of trading card games and microtransactions(after he said he wouldn't) in order to squeeze a bit more money out of his customer base without actually making a better product. No no, you are right, they are a great company, Smedley is a great leader, and they have great games, and never screw anyone over. We should all play SOE games. But I think you should get a life, as you are sitting here arguing with someone about their choice to not buy a product from a certain company.
Congratulations are in order, good sir. I now believe that you are a complete imbecile. Do you even realise that I was mocking your fixation on Smedley? Oh well, it doesn't matter. I just hope you know how satiably ironic it is for you to say this buffoonery of a contradiction: "But I think you should get a life, as you are sitting here arguing with someone about their choice to not buy a product from a certain company." I guess arguing is a one-sided activity nowadays? Well, I guess I shall leave you to stew in your muck of SOE-bashing revelry. |
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1/03/09 7:10:53 PM#25
Originally posted by DrChicken
I'll leave you to your designs, then. This discussion is not very productive, especially when you, for some odd reason, believe that Smedley gets a bonus that is equivalent to how many people he "cons" with his games. Hell, the guy is just doing his job - how the %$!@ do you equate that with someone who is actively trying to take your money? Does SOE just hand over 100% of its profits to Smedley for a job well done? I don't think so. Christ, I think it is time to get a life. You aren't the brightest are you? You see, you are taking my comment "just go right ahead and hand Mr. Smedley your money" literally, while anyone that has common sense knows that you don't actually give your money to John Smedley, and you don't hand your money across the internet. It was a figure of speech, as in saying, "as long and Smedley is running the company, I won't pay them any money, because you never know when you are going to get bent over". Smedley is doing his job, and he is doing it very poorly. What used to a dominant force in the MMO market is now a place where games go to die. SOE used to have way more subscribers, with a lot fewer games, than they do now. So what does good ol' Johnny do when he is losing subs left and right and needs to make more money? I can tell you what he doesn't do, he doesn't improve the quality/content of his products. No, he introduces complete scams, in the form of trading card games and microtransactions(after he said he wouldn't) in order to squeeze a bit more money out of his customer base without actually making a better product. No no, you are right, they are a great company, Smedley is a great leader, and they have great games, and never screw anyone over. We should all play SOE games. But I think you should get a life, as you are sitting here arguing with someone about their choice to not buy a product from a certain company.
Congratulations are in order, good sir. I now believe that you are a complete imbecile. Do you even realise that I was mocking your fixation on Smedley? Oh well, it doesn't matter. I just hope you know how satiably ironic it is for you to say this buffoonery of a contradiction: "But I think you should get a life, as you are sitting here arguing with someone about their choice to not buy a product from a certain company." I guess arguing is a one-sided activity nowadays? Well, I guess I shall leave you to stew in your muck of SOE-bashing revelry. When your argument falls to nothing more than personal attacks, it's time to realize you have nothing more of value to say. Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic |
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1/04/09 11:49:20 AM#26
They also are now in the process of screwing up Vanguard. So those of us who played both SWG and VG have been screwed twice. I went "boo hoo NGE, Ill never play a SOE game ever" and went back on it for VG. It would be stupid of me to make that mistake again.
If SOE made a game that I NEEDED to play and no other games were around I still wouldn't play it. Maybe its my loss but they lost the right to stick their hand in my pocket. |
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1/04/09 11:14:46 PM#27
Originally posted by ssnautilus i thought potbs was not on station pass.... Currently Playing EQ2, TERA Recommendation of a game you probably haven't tried: POTBS, Atlantica, L2 |
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indiramourn
 Apprentice Member
Joined: 12/13/05
MMOs require more reasoning and imagination than most stereotypically ''adult'' activities. |
1/05/09 2:04:55 PM#28
Originally posted by Rhoklaw There's reality, and then there is what you believe. These are two prime examples of the kind self-delusional customers that a company like SoE depends upon to keep doing business the way they do.
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