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12/29/08 2:58:20 PM#21
Originally posted by Terrimod QFT. |
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12/29/08 2:58:50 PM#22
Originally posted by Emri
True because we all know there is nothing like true RP where after you kill the same toon for the 20th time you meet them again for the 21st battle. Even in a FFA PvP sandbox game the RP is selective. You want true hardcore PvP RP? Delete your toons after each death and start again. Yeah, I thought so.
lol DF is like 20000000000 steps forward in the right direction, don't jinx it. Maybe perma death will be the next step forward (not my taste) who knows. This game isn't designed around perma death though, so it will never work, a game CAN be designed around perma death, where character progression is done more through knowledge of the wolrd and player skill than from character skills, levels, and gear, and you can continue playing from your son and daughter or something and get some inheritance kept in a guild city, if you had one. Or something like that, agian, not my cup of tea. When I'm energetic I'm: When I'm at default I'm:
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Vesavius
Old School
Joined: 3/08/04
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12/29/08 3:56:48 PM#23
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth QFT.
Well, this is why I said, eariler in this very thread, that ignoring idiots and turning channels off would be a great help to RPers. If they do that then RPing is as viable in DF I would think as any other mmorpg out there. At least try to act like people have posted stuff before you. Please stop giving idiot trolls reason to respond, unless you actually are one? I would hate to judge you. |
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12/29/08 4:02:12 PM#24
Originally posted by vesavius
Well, this is why I said, eariler in this very thread, that ignoring idiots and turning channels off would be a great help to RPers. If they do that then RPing is as viable in DF I would think as any other mmorpg out there. At least try to act like people have posted stuff before you. Please stop giving idiot trolls reason to respond, unless you actually are one? I would hate to judge you.
Except that, it won’t happen. That’s two types of player bases, which do not mix. Its not that the game system, or game itself won’t allow it. It’s the Community around this game.
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12/29/08 4:32:54 PM#25
Originally posted by vesavius
Well, this is why I said, eariler in this very thread, that ignoring idiots and turning channels off would be a great help to RPers. If they do that then RPing is as viable in DF I would think as any other mmorpg out there. At least try to act like people have posted stuff before you. Please stop giving idiot trolls reason to respond, unless you actually are one? I would hate to judge you. i learned as of late that mrbloodsworth is a cynic/troll, he's on my block list When I'm energetic I'm: When I'm at default I'm:
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12/29/08 4:39:34 PM#26
Originally posted by Terrimod
Bollux. Its not hard at all unless you lack imagination. Speaking to the OP, yes there will be RP in Darkfall, probably quite a bit of it, as sandbox worlds are superior for the playstyle when compared to WoW/WAR/LotRo/everything else. The PKers will probably drive off casual roleplayers, but those who truly want an immersive experience will probably find it here, and in similar games. |
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12/29/08 5:11:31 PM#27
Originally posted by veritas_X
Bollux. Its not hard at all unless you lack imagination. Speaking to the OP, yes there will be RP in Darkfall, probably quite a bit of it, as sandbox worlds are superior for the playstyle when compared to WoW/WAR/LotRo/everything else. The PKers will probably drive off casual roleplayers, but those who truly want an immersive experience will probably find it here, and in similar games. what similar games? When I'm energetic I'm: When I'm at default I'm:
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12/30/08 12:33:36 AM#28
Originally posted by rageagainst
Well, this is why I said, eariler in this very thread, that ignoring idiots and turning channels off would be a great help to RPers. If they do that then RPing is as viable in DF I would think as any other mmorpg out there. At least try to act like people have posted stuff before you. Please stop giving idiot trolls reason to respond, unless you actually are one? I would hate to judge you. i learned as of late that mrbloodsworth is a cynic/troll, he's on my block list
yeah, he needs to pull whatevers stuck up his ass out, and chill. |
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12/30/08 12:37:47 AM#29
On topic, I think it is true that some RPers prefer to roleplay in a theme-park, or safe MMO . But there is a certain type who prefer sandbox and free world pvp. Just because they roleplay doesn't mean they also don't play the game. Just depends which type you prefer. |
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12/30/08 1:02:50 AM#30
the big diference between rp in darkfall is that when hector moron shows up in town and starts irritating the other role players by speaking ooc you can pull out a sword and kill him. At least thats what we did back in the orks of kor, and if you have your own town you can (iirc) put idiots on a kill list. Doent stop seiges of course, but rp doenst nessasarly mean without pvp skill |
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12/30/08 1:04:54 AM#31
Originally posted by behindtheed
Everyone I know who RPs in MMO games has not done so since UO. No current MMO games support our playstyle. The lack of freedom in the EQ clones is disturbing to everyone I game with. We have all been waiting for a game like UO to come around for a long time. "There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer." |
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12/30/08 9:19:31 AM#32
Originally posted by rageagainst
Well, this is why I said, eariler in this very thread, that ignoring idiots and turning channels off would be a great help to RPers. If they do that then RPing is as viable in DF I would think as any other mmorpg out there. At least try to act like people have posted stuff before you. Please stop giving idiot trolls reason to respond, unless you actually are one? I would hate to judge you. i learned as of late that mrbloodsworth is a cynic/troll, he's on my block list You mean I don’t agree with your views, and am critical of the game. This must mean i am a troll.
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SupderD
Novice Member
Joined: 11/10/08
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12/30/08 9:25:04 AM#33
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth i learned as of late that mrbloodsworth is a cynic/troll, he's on my block list You mean I don’t agree with your views, and am critical of the game. This must mean i am a troll.
You aren't a praiser and worshipper of Tasos, then, yes, clearly, you are against Darkfall. "Luckily I know that while you make nonsnese baiting threads that get locked....threads I make get sticked by the mods on this forum...." -imbant (greatest board warrior EVER) |
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12/30/08 2:21:04 PM#34
Originally posted by SupderD i learned as of late that mrbloodsworth is a cynic/troll, he's on my block list You mean I don’t agree with your views, and am critical of the game. This must mean i am a troll.
You aren't a praiser and worshipper of Tasos, then, yes, clearly, you are against Darkfall.
WAIT you mean you AREN'T trolling!? Its one thing to have a valid negative opinion on something but its another to have ONLY negative opinions on something, pick fights, and ignore positive evidence for the given subject. That's not being skeptical that's called being CYNICAL (or a troll), and that's just as bad as being a fanboi (ignoring all negative evidence on the given subject)
I myself feel aventurine's graphics are unproffessional looking (their animations and char models look like trash), their PR has been the worst in mmo history, and I worry that the inclusion of gigantic hitboxes, the cutting of directional swings, and slow combat will lead to the complete lack of twitch skill in combat and all it will be is guildwars w/out autoattack (combatwise) all of which are very valid claims When I'm energetic I'm: When I'm at default I'm:
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12/30/08 2:33:46 PM#35
Its been my experience that RP's and PvP'ers don't mix well. With the type of "community" I'm expecting to see in DF, good luck to anyone that wants to RP. OH MY GOD WE'RE SURROUNDED! SEND FOR BACKUP! DIG IN DEFENSIVE POSITIONS! MAN YOUR NECKBEARDS!!! I'll pre order you SWTOR if you let me put my lightsaber in your sarlaac cave. |
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12/30/08 2:34:18 PM#36
Originally posted by rageagainst You mean I don’t agree with your views, and am critical of the game. This must mean i am a troll.
You aren't a praiser and worshipper of Tasos, then, yes, clearly, you are against Darkfall.
WAIT you mean you AREN'T trolling!? Its one thing to have a valid negative opinion on something but its another to have ONLY negative opinions on something, pick fights, and ignore positive evidence for the given subject. That's not being skeptical that's called being CYNICAL (or a troll), and that's just as bad as being a fanboi (ignoring all negative evidence on the given subject)
I myself feel aventurine's graphics are unproffessional looking (their animations and char models look like trash), their PR has been the worst in mmo history, and I worry that the inclusion of gigantic hitboxes, the cutting of directional swings, and slow combat will lead to the complete lack of twitch skill in combat and all it will be is guildwars w/out autoattack (combatwise) all of which are very valid claims I'm sorry I don’t place a disclaimer and list all the things that I feel are positive about the game in every post I make. I’m sorry.
BTW: Trolling is posting for the shear result of starting a flame war, or argument with no intent to discuss. Being cynical or critical is not trolling.
From Wikipedia: An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
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12/30/08 2:38:32 PM#37
One would think that because this is a supposed sandbox, RPing would be easier. But what are you gonna RP as? RP is all about jumping in someone else's shoes, or making your own virtual destiny...but without any guidance (BACKSTORY!?) it's kinda hard. What's Darkfall's story? I'd like to read it, especially with the Orcs looking like Saturday morning cartoon characters. Also I think everyone will be too busy FFA PvPing and full looting to RP. I'm sorry, I'm "cynical" and skeptical even though I'm asking questions about Darkfall. Dat meez I R troll I guess. |
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12/30/08 2:53:17 PM#38
Originally posted by Bruticus_XI
green is me Yes it does b/c DF DOES have a backstory if you ever thought of looking at the website! And the environment is handcrafted meaning there will be interesting things to look at (and make stories about) every where you go (according to beta testimonies)). If DF is half of what it promises, the RP will be better in DF than any other game on the market, b/c the "story" of the game is constantly changing, mob locations constantly change, and cities and important locations always change. It will be a dynamic world and if you do something significant (slay a dragon, destroy a village), your actions don't get erased and reset for the next group of explorers to recreat your adventure. You also have the freedom to do w/e your RP heart wishes (build a house, find secret skills/dungeons, kill whoever you want, etc.)
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